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Cycles Approach Speech Therapy: Ultimate Guide to IEP Goals

October 3, 2024 by Hung Le Leave a Comment

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For children with severe phonological disorders, traditional speech therapy approaches can sometimes fall short. Enter the Cycles Approach—a powerful method originally developed by Dr. Barbara Hodson and her colleagues that has revolutionized how speech-language pathologists tackle these complex cases.

Unlike traditional articulation therapy, which focuses on one sound at a time, the Cycles Approach targets multiple phonological processes within a structured and cyclical framework. The primary goal of this approach is not to achieve mastery of each sound, but rather to stimulate the emergence of correct sound patterns, thereby improving overall intelligibility.

In this guide, we’ll explore the foundational principles of the Cycles Approach, its key steps, and how to effectively implement it in therapy sessions. We will also discuss how to write IEP goals using this approach, offering practical examples and insights from speech-language pathology experts Marisha Mets and Amy Graham. 

Whether you are new to the Cycles Approach or looking to refine your practice, this guide will provide valuable tools and strategies to enhance your therapeutic interventions.

Let’s dig in!

What is the Cycles Approach in Speech Therapy?

The Cycles Approach is designed to address the needs of children with highly unintelligible speech by focusing on phonological processes rather than individual sounds. This method is particularly effective for children who exhibit multiple phonological errors, such as cluster reduction, final consonant deletion, and fronting, which significantly impact their speech intelligibility.

Background of the Hodson Cycles Approach

barbara hodson cycles approach

Originally developed by Dr. Barbara Hodson and her colleagues in the late 1970’s, the Cycles Approach was inspired by cognitive and developmental psychology principles.

The method was designed to work with the natural learning processes of children, particularly those who struggle to grasp the rules of sound production and usage. The Cycles Approach differs from traditional methods by its emphasis on cycling through different phonological targets over a predetermined period, rather than working on a single sound until mastery.

Phonological Cycles Approach: Key Principles

  1. Targeting Patterns, Not Sounds: The Cycles Approach focuses on phonological patterns (e.g., fronting, stopping) rather than isolated sounds. By targeting these patterns, the approach helps children understand and apply the rules of phonology more effectively.
  2. Stimulability: Only sounds that the child can produce with some level of accuracy are included in the cycle. This ensures that the child experiences success early in the process, which is crucial for motivation and continued progress.
  3. Dynamic and Flexible: The approach is dynamic, allowing SLPs to adapt the therapy plan based on the child’s progress. It is not a one-size-fits-all method but rather a flexible framework that can be tailored to each child’s unique needs.
  4. Structured Sessions: Each cycle is composed of several sessions that follow a structured format, including auditory bombardment, production practice, and stimulability testing. This structured approach helps to solidify the child’s understanding of the phonological rules being targeted.

I’ve found the cycles approach to be really effective for my kids who are more on the severe end of the spectrum, when it comes to phonological deficits. But also it was really adaptable if I went into preschool classrooms…

Amy Graham

The Cycles Approach has proven to be a powerful tool in the SLP’s arsenal, particularly for children who have multiple phonological errors that severely impact their ability to communicate effectively. 

By addressing the underlying patterns of speech errors, rather than focusing on individual sounds, the Cycles Approach fosters more rapid and comprehensive improvement in speech intelligibility.

The Steps Involved in the Cycles Approach

The Cycles Approach is a structured method that follows a specific sequence, ensuring that therapy sessions are consistent and effective. 

To get a better idea of How to Implement the Cycles Approach, here are the steps typically involved:

1. Select Phonological Patterns to Target

The first step involves identifying the phonological patterns that need to be addressed. Instead of focusing on individual sounds, the Cycles Approach targets broader patterns, such as fronting, stopping, or final consonant deletion, which are impacting the child’s intelligibility.

2. Organize Therapy Sessions with a Structured Format

Each therapy session is highly structured, following a set format that Amy describes as especially beneficial for new clinicians. This structure typically includes several components designed to reinforce correct phonological patterns through repetition and consistency.

3. Auditory Bombardment

Sessions typically begin with auditory bombardment, where the child listens to a list of target words that highlight the specific phonological pattern being addressed. The goal here is to provide the child with a concentrated exposure to the correct production of sounds, reinforcing their auditory perception of the targeted phonological pattern.

4. Production Practice

During this step, the child practices producing the target sounds within the context of fun, engaging activities. Amy highlighted that working on these patterns rather than individual sounds is crucial, as it helps the child understand and apply the rules of sound usage in various contexts.

5. Stimulability Testing

At the end of each cycle or after a set period, the SLP assesses the child’s ability to produce the target sounds with cues. This step, implied in Amy’s discussion, helps determine if the child is ready to move on to new sounds or if additional practice is needed.

6. Home Practice

To reinforce learning between sessions, children are often provided with simple home practice activities. These might include a list of target words or games that parents or caregivers can do with the child. Home practice is essential for maintaining progress and ensuring that the child continues to engage with the targeted phonological patterns outside of the therapy setting.

7. Adjust and Adapt

Amy emphasizes the adaptability of the Cycles Approach. Based on the child’s progress, the SLP may need to revisit certain sounds or patterns, or introduce new ones. This flexibility ensures that therapy remains effective and tailored to the child’s evolving needs.

8. Cycle Completion and Review

After completing a cycle, the SLP reviews the child’s progress to determine if the targeted phonological patterns have started to emerge in spontaneous speech. If so, new targets are introduced in the next cycle. If not, the current targets may be revisited.

These steps provide a clear and effective framework for implementing the Cycles Approach in speech therapy, ensuring that each session builds towards significant improvements in the child’s speech intelligibility.

“The Cycles Approach is really adaptable, because it’s so structured. I really enjoyed that aspect of it. Especially as a newer clinician, it was pretty much a step-by-step guide to what you do in your 30 minutes or 60 minutes of therapy. Because it was like literally, here are the components of a therapy session, and your lesson plan is done.”

– Amy Graham

Dynamic Assessment in the Cycles Approach

A critical component of the Cycles Approach is the dynamic assessment process, which plays a key role in tailoring the therapy to each child’s specific needs. 

This approach emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying phonological patterns that are contributing to the child’s speech difficulties, rather than merely addressing surface-level speech errors.

The Importance of Phonological Assessment in Speech Therapy

Amy highlights that a thorough and appropriate assessment is the foundation of any effective therapy plan. 

She notes that traditional articulation assessments, which often focus on individual sound production, may not be sufficient for children with phonological deficits. Instead, SLPs should perform a comprehensive analysis of the child’s speech patterns to identify consistent phonological errors.

“We have to understand whether or not the child does have a phonological deficit. If we just take a traditional articulation approach and throw it against the wall hoping something sticks, we’re going to be spinning our wheels with most of our kids.”

This underscores the necessity of using a diagnostic approach that goes beyond simple sound production tests like the GFTA (Goldman-Fristoe Test of Articulation). SLPs should analyze connected speech samples, identify patterns in omissions and substitutions, and consider whether these patterns suggest a broader phonological issue.

Tailoring the Approach Based on Assessment

Once the phonological patterns have been identified, the Cycles Approach allows for the therapy to be tailored dynamically based on the child’s progress. Amy emphasizes that this adaptability is one of the strengths of the approach. The SLP can adjust the targets and methods as needed, depending on how the child responds to the initial cycles.

For example, if a child is not making expected progress on certain phonological targets, the SLP might revisit earlier assessments to ensure the correct patterns are being addressed. This ongoing evaluation is crucial to ensuring that therapy remains effective and responsive to the child’s needs.

“Make sure that you’ve not only done your assessment, don’t just give that Goldman Fristoe, but analyze the child’s speech. Are there patterns to the types of omissions or substitutions that they have? If there are consistent omissions and substitutions – that’s where the Cycles Approach shines.”

– Amy Graham

Dynamic assessment is a cornerstone of the Cycles Approach. It ensures that therapy is not only targeted but also flexible enough to adapt to the child’s unique phonological challenges, leading to more effective and efficient intervention.

Resources for Phonological Assessment

To assist in developing specific phonological goals and conducting thorough assessments, SLPs can utilize the following resources:

ASHA Phonological Processes Chart

This chart provides a comprehensive overview of selected phonological processes, which can be invaluable in identifying which processes to target during therapy. You can access the ASHA Phonological Processes Chart here.

ASHA Phonological Processes Chart

Assessment Checklist: 

Make sure to grab a copy of Amy Graham’s assessment checklist here on her site.

assesment checklist

Developing Goals for the Cycles Approach

Writing effective IEP (Individualized Education Program) goals is a critical step in the Cycles Approach, particularly for children with significant phonological disorders. 

Your goals must be specific, measurable, and flexible enough to adapt to the child’s progress throughout the therapy.

Writing Effective Cycles Approach Goals: A Focus on Flexibility

Amy stresses the importance of writing goals that are not tied to a specific therapeutic approach but are instead focused on the desired speech outcomes. This allows the therapist to adjust the approach if the child is not responding as expected.

“I actually don’t write goals to a specific approach… I write my goals to the specific speech task that I want the child to acquire, regardless of how I get there.”

This approach to goal-setting ensures that the therapy remains adaptable, giving the SLP the freedom to switch strategies if needed without having to revise the entire IEP.

Example of SMART Goals in the Cycles Approach

When creating goals, it’s essential to follow the SMART criteria—goals that are Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant, and Time-bound. For example, a goal might be:

“By the end of the 12-week period, the child will reduce the occurrence of the phonological error pattern of fronting by producing /k/ and /g/ sounds in the initial and final positions of words with 90% accuracy, with no cues, across two consecutive therapy sessions.”

– Amy Graham

This goal is clear and focused on a specific phonological pattern, with a measurable outcome that can be tracked over time. It also allows flexibility in the method used to achieve this outcome, whether through the Cycles Approach or another suitable strategy.

Incorporating Intelligibility and Stimulability Goals

In addition to targeting specific phonological patterns, Amy also emphasizes the importance of including goals related to overall speech intelligibility.

For instance, an intelligibility goal might involve improving the child’s ability to be understood by unfamiliar listeners, which can be measured using tools like the Intelligibility in Context Scale.

Intelligibility in Context Scale

In summary, developing goals within the Cycles Approach involves focusing on the broader speech tasks that need improvement, rather than being rigidly tied to a single method. This flexibility allows for a more responsive and individualized approach to therapy, ensuring that each child can make meaningful progress.

Implementing the Cycles Approach in Therapy Sessions

Implementing the Cycles Approach effectively in therapy sessions requires a structured framework that can adapt to the individual needs of the child. Amy emphasizes that while the approach is highly structured, it also allows for flexibility based on the child’s progress and specific needs.

Keys to Successful Cycles Approach Implementation

  1. Structured Therapy Sessions The Cycles Approach is designed with a clear structure in mind, which is particularly beneficial for clinicians. Each session typically includes components like auditory bombardment, production practice, and stimulability testing. Amy highlights how this structure provides a reliable framework for conducting therapy:
  2. Target Selection and Rotation In the Cycles Approach, phonological targets are selected based on the child’s specific needs and are rotated in a cyclical manner. Each target is addressed for a set period before moving on to the next. This rotation helps address multiple phonological patterns, promoting the generalization of correct sound usage across different contexts.
  3. Engagement and Motivation Keeping children engaged is crucial to the success of therapy. While the Cycles Approach is structured, it also allows for the integration of engaging activities that make therapy enjoyable for the child. This engagement is vital for maintaining the child’s motivation and reinforcing learning.
  4. Continuous Assessment and Adaptation Regular assessment is key to ensuring that the Cycles Approach is working effectively for each child. Amy discusses the importance of being flexible in therapy and adjusting the approach as needed:

“Sometimes I might have the best of intentions with a child and think, yep, this is the approach I’m going to go with… and then we get into a few sessions and I think to myself, ooh, this isn’t working. They’re not responding to the construct of this approach.”

– Amy Graham

This ongoing evaluation ensures that therapy remains responsive to the child’s needs and that adjustments can be made to improve effectiveness.

Phonological Treatment Approaches for Different Age Groups

The Cycles Approach is versatile and can be tailored to meet the needs of children at different developmental stages and with varying levels of phonological deficits. For younger children, therapy may involve more play-based activities, while older children might benefit from more structured practice. Amy underscores the importance of understanding the child’s individual needs and adapting the approach accordingly.

By carefully implementing the Cycles Approach, SLPs can ensure that therapy sessions are both effective and enjoyable, leading to significant improvements in the child’s speech intelligibility over time.

Cycles Approach Success Stories

The effectiveness of the Cycles Approach in treating phonological disorders is well-documented through various success stories and case studies.

Amy has personally seen remarkable progress in children using the Cycles Approach. These success stories often involve children who were initially highly unintelligible, with numerous phonological processes, such as cluster reduction, final consonant deletion, and fronting.

And there are many other real-life examples that highlight the approach’s ability to significantly improve speech intelligibility in children who struggle with multiple phonological processes.

Cycles Approach Case Study: Addressing Severe Phonological Deficits

A notable case study, as discussed on SLP Now, involves a four-year-old child named Jayden, who presented with severe phonological disorders, including cluster reduction, fronting, and stopping. The Cycles Approach was applied, with targeted interventions focusing on specific patterns like /k/ and /s/-clusters. Over time, Jayden showed measurable improvements in his speech intelligibility, demonstrating the effectiveness of the Cycles Approach when applied consistently and with clear, structured goals.

This patient, step-by-step approach ensures that each phonological pattern is addressed thoroughly, leading to better generalization of correct speech sounds in the child’s everyday language.

You can read the detailed case study of Jayden’s progress here.

Resources for Learning More About the Cycles Approach

Make sure the check out these free resources deepen their understanding of the Cycles Approach and its application in speech therapy:

  • SLP Now Goal Bank
  • #005: How to Implement the Cycles Approach – SLP Now
  • Intelligibility in Context Scale – Multilingual Children’s Speech
  • Amy Graham’s Speech Assessment Checklist
  • The Cycles Approach for Articulation Therapy: A Case Study – SLP Now

Frequently Asked Questions About Cycles Approach

1. What is the Cycles Approach?

The Cycles Approach is a speech therapy method designed to improve speech intelligibility in children with severe phonological disorders. It targets multiple phonological patterns in a cyclical manner, focusing on the gradual emergence of correct speech patterns rather than immediate mastery.

2. How is the Cycles Approach different from the traditional approach?

Unlike traditional articulation therapy, which targets one sound at a time until mastery, the Cycles Approach addresses broader phonological patterns and cycles through them. This method promotes generalization and more comprehensive improvement in the child’s speech.

3. What resources does ASHA provide for the Cycles Approach?

ASHA provides resources and guidelines for implementing the Cycles Approach, emphasizing its use for children with multiple phonological errors. The approach is recommended for addressing severe phonological disorders, and ASHA highlights its effectiveness in improving overall speech intelligibility.

4. What are the primary targets in the Cycles Approach?

The primary targets in the Cycles Approach include common phonological patterns such as final consonant deletion, cluster reduction, fronting, and stopping. These patterns are selected based on their impact on speech intelligibility and are addressed systematically over several cycles.


Links and Additional Resources

  • Amy’s Instagram
  • Amy’s Website
  • Amy’s Cycles Resources

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Marisha (00:01)

Hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I am really excited to be chatting with Amy Graham today. We are continuing the Goal Series and chatting about goals when implementing the cycles approach. And just a little bit of background, you might, well, I think if you're an SLP, you probably already know Amy Graham. She has been on the podcast twice already. So if you're...

You can head to check out episode 17 where she talks about oral facial exams and episode 31 where she talks about childhood apraxia of speech. And I'll just do a super quick intro and then we'll get into the content. But Amy Graham, she specializes in the assessment and treatment of children with speech sound disorders. She has a boutique private practice and only sees kiddos who

for your SSD. And she also has, she's just a phenomenal resource. She presents all over the place and she has a really helpful Instagram account where she actually has videos of her implementing strategies and she answers all of the questions. Just a phenomenal resource. And I'm so, so grateful that she's here with us today. So hello Amy.

Amy Graham (01:23)

It's so good to see you again. Thanks for having me on.

Marisha (01:25)

Good to see you too. And so I'm, I feel like I didn't even do your bio any justice, but I'm curious too. I think it's always interesting to hear kind of your story or anyone's story. But how did you end up learning so much about speech sound disorders or the cycles approach in particular? Can you share a little bit of your journey there?

Amy Graham (01:49)

Well, yeah, I mean, it probably starts with my SLP origin story, which everybody seems to have one, which was my sister had speech therapy when she was little and she's younger than I am by about three and a half years. And knowing what I know now, she had a phonological deficit. And so when she was like, you know, four, five, six, I kind of got dragged along to all of her speech therapy sessions. And so in my mind, I thought.

that's what speech therapists do. They help kids with their sounds. And at that point I thought, that's all we did, right? We fixed S's and R's. And so I thought as I was in school, I thought, you know, that's kind of sounds like after I changed my major like three or four times, I thought, that would be kind of fun. I remember going to that office with the aquarium and the fish tank that my sister was in. I think that would sound like a fun job. You help kids, you know, learn how to say sounds and then you get into the program.

and you learn that our scope of practice is insane. And so I kind of took little detours here and there. I really loved adult neuro. I thought I might go into that, but they weren't hiring when I graduated. They weren't hiring CFYs anyway, or CFs. And so I went into the schools, which I'm really glad that I did because as you know, if you're in the schools,

your caseload is composed of a lot of kids, especially if you're in the elementary ages or even preschool, a lot of speech sound disorders. And so I kind of rediscovered why I like the field with those kids, because I soon discovered too that if I were to match the particular approach,

to the right kid who has the right severity, the right kind of speech sound disorder, I could literally see improvement in real time in one session. And I loved that because that is not necessarily true about a lot of other areas that we treat. And so I love that about speech sound disorders. And I think I was also really fortunate in that my graduate program, I went to California State University Fullerton in Southern California, where I'm originally from.

Colorado now though, but they had a really great SSD class course. And so I felt like I felt really comfortable in kind of tackling speech sound disorders. And now I went to the school in the 90s. So if you went to school in the 90s, you learned all about the cycles approach. That was like the approach of the moment. And so that's what I learned was one of my favorite approaches.

And so even when I did clinicals as a grad student, I had a kid on my caseload who was pretty significantly impaired phonologically. And so I could use cycles as a student and have my supervisor observe and critique. And so I kind of learned how to do the approach that way. And yeah, and so working in the schools, I just found it to be really effective for my kids who are kind of more on the...

severe end of the spectrum when it comes to phonological deficits. But also it was really adaptable if I went into preschool classrooms. And if I had time where I had to push in and we had centers and it's really adaptable because it's so structured. So I really enjoyed that aspect of it. I also really liked the fact that, especially as a newer clinician, that it was pretty much here's a step -by -step.

guide to what you do in your 30 minutes or 60 minutes of therapy. Because it was like literally here's the seven components of a therapy session. And so your lesson plan is done. So I love that. That's how I kind of got into the speech sound disorders aspect of it and how I started using the cycles approach.

Marisha (05:29)

I love that. And I'm excited. Like I have all of the questions now. So the goal of this podcast is to chat about goals. That's a question that we get all of the time. Like, okay, so I decided I want to use this approach. Like, how do I write the goals? But that's like a tiny part of the puzzle, because you mentioned like, we need to know which approach is appropriate. And we want to make sure that we have a thorough assessment.

Amy Graham (05:35)

good.

Marisha (05:57)

to help us make that decision. And so there's a lot of other elements that we want to consider and it's not just, okay, let's write some goals. So what are, and that's, we're not going to focus on that during this podcast episode, but what are some resources that you would recommend? Maybe just kind of in speech, for speech sound disorders in general, where we can do like a good assessment and help narrow things down and then.

Amy Graham (06:19)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (06:24)

kind of just learning more about implementing the cycles approach.

Amy Graham (06:28)

you're right, absolutely all of it starts with a really appropriate and thorough assessment. Because until we understand the nature of the child's deficit, if we just take a traditional articulation approach and just throw it against the wall hoping something sticks, we're going to be spinning our wheels with most of our kids because that traditional articulation type of intervention where, you know, we just pick a sound that they don't have and we're just going to work on that sound and that traditional hierarchy of isolation, syllable word, phrase, so on.

not appropriate for kids with phonological deficits. So we have to understand whether or not the child does have a phonological deficit. And if it gets loud right now, I'm in Colorado and we've got hail. So it's literally going on in the background. So sorry about that if you hear it. But yeah, we do have, we have to understand what's going on. So make sure that you've not only done your assessment, don't just give that Goldman Fristow, but analyze the, analyze the child's speech. Like,

okay, what is going on there? Are there patterns to the types of omissions or substitutions that they have? And if there are, if there are those consistent omissions and substitutions and they're highly unintelligible because that's what cycles is meant for. Cycles approach, and I think that's commonly misunderstood. Well, you know, can we do the cycles approach for everybody? It's really most appropriate for kids who are on the moderate to severe to even profound end of the spectrum where they're missing so many sounds.

in their inventory or they have so many phonological errors. Everybody has this kid. If you work with preschoolers or even early elementary age kids, you've got the kid who has cluster reduction and stopping and final consonant deletion and gliding and fronting and it's like, wow, that is a lot of phonological errors. And that kid is highly unintelligible. And so when you get a kid like that, we're often like,

Well, where do I start? Do I work on K and G until they get it? Do I work on S's? Like, where do I begin? And the cycles approach, we work on all of it in a very cyclical way. And so that's what I love about all phonological interventions is that we're not just teaching motor production of a sound because that is not the nature of a phonological deficit. Yes, they may have trouble learning how to produce a sound if they're not immediately stimulable.

So there's always a motor component to speech, but the nature of a phonological deficit is that the child does not necessarily understand the rules for when we use sounds to change meanings of words, which is why we are always operating within the context of words. So our speech therapy is with words because that's how we teach the rule. And I love this. I talk about this all the time because I had a parent, it illustrates this point really well.

I had a parent who messaged me on Instagram and was really concerned about her, I think it was five year old son. She thought there was something wrong with him because she said, okay, can you say the snake sound? Cause he wasn't doing any S's apparently. And she said, and he could do it immediately. He could do the snake sound when she said it like that. When she said, just make the snake sound, you know, do that, that sound effect and he could do it. And then she's thinking, great, he has S. So she's, so she would ask him, okay, now say snow. And he went, no.

not because it was a motor issue with being able to produce a sound. He did not know the rule that the word snow has to have an S on it to change the meaning from no to snow. And that's what the cycles approach does. That's what all phonological interventions do. Complexity approach, minimal pairs, multiple oppositions, they all teach the rules along with the motor production. And so, yeah, so that's what the cycles approach does. And I think I...

probably forgot what your question was because I just went off on a little tangent there.

Marisha (10:08)

No, I love that answer. And so you gave us a little bit of insight on in terms of what we want to consider in our assessment, like going beyond the basic articulation test and looking at the patterns. And I think you did an episode about oral facial exams, which could be helpful too. Do you have any, because we don't have time to dive into all of that.

Amy Graham (10:19)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (10:32)

But do you have a favorite resource if someone is wanting to learn more about, okay, I know I feel like I could some SLPs might be listening and they're like, okay, I know, like I have a good system for my evaluations. So I'm good there. But for the people who are listening to this is like, Ooh, that could be an area that I really want to learn more about. Do you have recommend?

Amy Graham (10:53)

about assessments, I know it's actually on my agenda to do a differential diagnosis. And actually I've done a two hour course and I've traveled and I do it a lot over Zoom. I just haven't recorded it yet to have it on my website. So that's in the works, a differential diagnosis course for yeah, absolutely. But I would say just kind of.

going through what we know from and hopefully, you know, we all had a course like that, but remembering and going back, what do we all need to include? And so I do have a free assessment checklist that I made for myself to kind of keep in mind, okay, what do I need to remember to do? I need a connected speech sample. I need to do the oral facial exam. I got to analyze the Goldman Fristo or the articulation tests for patterns. And so I do have a free assessment checklist.

that people can download and it's got links to different assessments that you might want to consider, links to intelligibility ratings from Dr. Sharon McLeod. So you can download that. It's on the freebies portion of my website and I'm sure maybe we can even link it in the show notes.

Marisha (12:00)

Yeah, we will link that in the show notes. Perfect. And then because we are recording this quite a bit ahead of time. So I'll connect with Amy before the podcast airs to see if we can add the link to the differential diagnosis course, if it happens to be ready by then. So I'll make sure to check in about that. And then, yeah. And then so that like.

Amy Graham (12:15)

I'm hoping so. I have a lot of plans.

Marisha (12:25)

So we have some resources in place for the assessment and hopefully we'll have the course for differential diagnosis. And then what about the cycles approach specifically? Because we'll chat a little bit about considerations for goals. But if the site goals approach is really new to an SLP, do you have any resources that you'd recommend?

Amy Graham (12:45)

Yes. So I'm going to share this book that is just amazing. So it's Interventions for Speech Sound Disorders in Children. And this is by Dr. Lynn Williams, Sharon McCloud, Rebecca McCauley. And it's a compilation of every chapter is a different approach. And so you can actually go to the cycles approach chapter and learn all about it. And it's a really great reference. It's a great reference for all speech sound disorders interventions.

I also recorded a two hour webinar on the cycles approach. So, cause I got questions, I consult with a lot of SLPs. I do consultations. And so I would find out that as I talked to more SLPs, there was very frequently misunderstanding about what a cycle is, about when you target certain sounds, how long you target those sounds. And so I decided, you know, I'm just going to do a course and really go through it step by step. We go, we even go through assessment.

We go through analyzing their speech errors and we go through the construct of what a cycle is, but we also go through, here's what a therapy session can look like and here are the different components of a therapy session with a lot of actual videos of therapy so that you can kind of see it in action. So, yeah, and I know there's a cycles approach resource page on my website as well too, that all of that is linked in addition to a lot of other resources that I have for the cycles approach.

Like I do have, I have these over here, my cycles decks. I have six authored for Bjorum speech and they're divided by particular phonological pattern. So all of the work has been done for you in those decks as when you're thinking of target selection, because that's another thing we got to think about for target selection. It's very different in the cycles approach and really a lot of phonological interventions because we have to think through, you know, monosyllabic words.

phonetic context, and all of that work has been done for you on those decks as well.

Marisha (14:41)

Awesome. So we have lots of great resources and again, we'll add those all to the show notes. So everyone has easy access to them. Okay, so now let's get to the like the meat of the episode where we get to chat about goals. So once we've done a great assessment and we've decided that the cycles approach is a great fit for our students, how would you like what tips or recommendations would you have when it comes to?

starting to develop goals for that student and kind of whatever you think would be helpful here.

Amy Graham (15:12)

Mm -hmm.

Yeah, so when it comes to writing goals for kids who are pretty significantly impaired, because that's who the cycles approach is appropriate for kids who have a lot of phonological errors going on. It's really important one. I mean, we want smart goals, right? It has to be, you know, specific, measurable, attainable, relevant to the child and timely. The timeliness part is going to differ based on your setting.

You know, in the schools we write annual goals. For me, I write 12 week goals because I'm private practice. And I feel like after 12 weeks, a lot of times I can kind of get a feel, most of the time I can get through a cycle, not always, but I can kind of get a feel for how that child is doing in therapy after about 12 weeks. So that can vary, but you have to think, okay, what do I think by the time my time period is over? What do I want that child to achieve? And so if you're thinking about,

Goals specific to an approach. I'm going to give an answer that might be a little, a little different than most people might think. I actually don't write goals to a specific approach. And here's why. cycles approach is not the only option for kids who have, you know, severe or moderate to severe phonological deficits. There are other interventions out there. There are multiple oppositions. There's the complexity approach. And so,

sometimes I might have the best of intentions with a child and think, yep, this is the approach I'm going to go with, go for with this child. And then we get into a few sessions and I think to myself, ooh, this isn't working. They're not responding to the construct of this approach or the targets that we've selected based on this approach over here. And so when that happens, I want my goals to be flexible enough to where I can switch approaches and my goals are still going to be appropriate. So I don't really write goals.

to the cycles approach or to the complexity approach, others do, and I know that's how others do it. That's just not how I do it because I want to give myself some flexibility. So I write my goals to the specific speech task that I want the child to acquire, regardless of how I get there. So if you have a child who is stopping and cluster reducing and fronting, that's what I'm going to write my goal for. I want to write my goal for the sounds that I want them to achieve. So.

My goal might sound something like this. And this is just one example. Say we're gonna write a goal for fronting. Maybe they're fronting all the Ks and Gs or T and Ds. So I might say something like, by a certain amount of time, the child will reduce the occurrence of the phonological error pattern of fronting by, and I like to include both. I know some people don't like the negative, but I like both.

I want to know, well, why am I working on K and G? What are they doing? they're fronting. Got it. So we're going to reduce fronting by producing K and G in initial and final position of words with 90 % of the time, with no cues across maybe two sessions or whatever. You can be pretty flexible with that, however you like to write your goals. So that might be how I write a goal.

And the way that I get there might be through the complexity approach. It might be through the multiple oppositions approach. It might be through the cycles approach. And so I might have multiple goals. So if a child has a lot of different phonological error patterns with the cycles approach, actually, as with most phonological approaches that are appropriate for kids with severe phonological errors, you can target a bunch of sounds in a year, in 12 months.

the way we do it might be a little different depending on the approach. So that's how I like to do it. And I have a goal for each phonological error pattern that I want that child to eliminate or reduce in the time period that I'm going to be working with them.

Marisha (18:57)

That makes a lot of sense. And it's okay.

Amy Graham (18:59)

I might have another goal too, just to add to that, because the goal with the cycles approach is a little different than others in that the overall goal is to increase intelligibility. And so I might write a goal for intelligibility. And I love writing a goal for the intelligibility in context scale, which is a free resource to help you gauge intelligibility of kids based on parent or caregiver report. And so I will write a goal to that.

And I have that linked on my, again, on that free assessment checklist. So if a parent, it's a seven question questionnaire basically that a parent answers and you ask them, how much does a stranger understand your child? Five, I forget, it's like one to five from not at all to often, I think, if I'm remembering correctly. And you can score it. And so I've actually written goals to that.

Like if a parent is reporting 20 out of 35 or 15 out of 35 when you calculate their score, my goal might be, based on parent report, intelligibility will improve to 25 out of 35 on the ICS when administered to the parent. So there's some different ways that you can measure improvement. And those are just a couple of ways I like to do it.

Marisha (20:15)

Yeah, and so I love that. And because we do, it could be that for whatever reason, the approach that we chose isn't the ideal approach. I love the suggestion to take that into consideration. That makes a lot of sense. And then in the show notes, I'll put like a sample goal in case anyone was scrambling to try and write it down. But that'll be in the show notes. And I'll also link the...

intelligibility and context scale. And I love that as a goal too, because especially if our, our student, if we're in the schools and we have a student is exhibiting a really, really long list of processes. I mean, we may want to write a goal for each one of them, but we could also like pick the biggest thing for our book and then add the intelligibility goal as well.

Amy Graham (21:04)

Yep. Yeah.

Marisha (21:10)

Like is that what you would recommend or?

Amy Graham (21:12)

You know, it kind of depends on the child. Like I like to, I mean, it might be more goals than you're used to, but if you are, if you've got a kid that's that impaired, I think that's, I think that's okay. Especially if you're using an approach that you know, yeah, I'm using the cycles approach. So when, you know, 15 weeks or so, I can absolutely target all of those error patterns, then why not write a goal for it? That doesn't mean that.

Maybe they'll achieve all of those. Maybe if they're not stimulable for K or G, I may not write a goal for that yet, but I'm going to still, you know, at every session, see if I can get them to be stimulable. But I maybe I don't think they're going to be able to achieve that by the end of my reporting period. So maybe I don't include that yet, but I might down the road. So there's, or maybe I'll write a goal for child will be stimulable for the K and G sound in isolation, right? If they're not stimulable yet.

So again, that's another goal that you can write for any approach if it's a sound that you want that child to eventually acquire. Yeah, so I think if we're creative, I think we need to step away from this idea of we have to pick one sound and that sound has to be 90 % accurate in all word position. That's an articulation approach, right? That's articulation. I want to know, I want that child to start learning about these particular sounds.

that we're trying to teach. And that's why another goal, I'll give you another example. With the cycles approach, when we get through an entire cycle and we've targeted all the patterns and all the sounds that we are gonna target in that cycle, we reassess to see if any of those sounds begins to emerge in spontaneous speech. And so when, according to the cycles approach, when a child starts to use, let's say, let's keep fronting for example, when they start to use K and G,

in spontaneous speech at about 50 % accuracy. So 50 % of the time, they're saying it correctly. You don't have to target it in the next cycle. So I have often written a goal too, and I'll write this across the board for other phonological, because this really is true for phonological learning. Once a child reaches past that 50%, most of the time they're saying it correctly.

The rest is likely to emerge on its own without direct intervention. So I might even write a goal for, you know, child will produce K and G at over 50 % accuracy during a spontaneous speech sample of 10 minutes, you know, across two sessions or whatever, you know, you can kind of get as specific as you need to, but write a generalization goal and thinking about what we know about phonological development, because again, we're teaching the rule.

And once the child starts to learn that rule and it starts to emerge in their spontaneous speech, we know that rule is probably taking hold. And then we can just monitor it without having to necessarily directly target that in their speech.

Marisha (23:58)

Yeah, that's a great suggestion. And then, so going back to the word level goal, and I'm just curious, kind of in your practice, what you've seen. So if we write the goal at the word level, and let's say they achieve like the criteria and 90 % accuracy, do you typically see that go into conversation or?

Amy Graham (24:14)

Mm -hmm.

Not always. So that's another thing to consider too, because that is acquisition of the skill during your assessment. You know, that's what they're, you know, when you show them the pictures, can they do the sound? But generalization is our ultimate goal. So we have in phonological interventions, we have this narrow measure of generalization, which would be that. Like maybe give them a list of 10 words that have the target sound that you've been working on, but you haven't addressed those in therapy. Is it generalizing to untrained words?

So you can write a goal and add untrained word list to that goal at the word level. But once they're about 90 % of that time, they're producing that in untrained words that you haven't addressed in therapy. Once they get there, then it's time to start looking at that generalization to spontaneous speech. And we continue to address it until we hear that child start to use it in spontaneous speech, even if they're like 100 % accurate over here. We got to still address it.

that because just because they're accurate with at the word level doesn't mean learning has taken hold. So we have to continue to address it. We might even tweak what we're doing in the therapy session, which I go into in my course, like maybe we're gonna use those words in phrases and those kinds of things. We're gonna make the, you know, change the linguistic context a little bit about what we're practicing, but we're gonna keep addressing it until the ultimate goal is to get to that.

at least 50 % I like to shoot for a little more even spontaneous production.

Marisha (25:47)

Perfect. And then are there any other goals that you would add? Because we talked about at the word level, kind of spontaneous speech. Would you ever write goals kind of in between that, or would you always just?

Amy Graham (25:59)

I don't because I think some people think of the in -between goal might be use them in phrases, use them in sentences. Again, that's a traditional articulation goal. That's not what I'm going for. I'm going for is the child learning the rule for these words have to have the back sound, right? The K and G versus the T and D. And we do that most of the time, we're doing that at the word level. So that narrow, we have that narrow measure of generalization when it comes to phonological interventions. And we have a generalized, you know, a general or a broad measure of generalization, which we.

spontaneous speech. So those are kind of the only two that I go into. But I also, like I said, I do like that intelligibility goal because here's why. When you have a child who's so impaired, let's take, for example, maybe they have final consonant deletion, right? And they're saying, I don't know, like cat, for cat, they're saying cat, right? They just drop it off altogether.

And so you're doing your cycles, you're targeting final consonant deletion and everything else and maybe S clusters and gliding and fronting and all of it. And then you get to the end of your cycle and you're reevaluating and the child says something like, pass. Well, is it accurate? No, it's not accurate. But is it better? Because now they're at least marking a final consonant? Yes.

So if a child says, I want to pet the cats versus I want to pet the cat, is it more intelligible? Likely it is. And so that's why I like an intelligibility goal because as the child's speech system improves, the sounds may not always be perfect and accurate, but we want them to get closer and closer and closer until it is accurate. And so that's why I like that measurement of intelligibility too, because it looks at not just, is that sound perfect in that word position? It looks at, yeah, but are they being understood a little bit more?

Marisha (27:49)

Yeah. And that's the ultimate goal. So I love that. And then, cause you also mentioned, so to recap, we did the word and spontaneous conversational speech goals. Then we talked to the intelligibility and context. And you also mentioned a stimulability goal.

Amy Graham (27:51)

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, because some kids for the cycles approach, we don't address word level practice. We don't do an entire session at words until they can actually produce it correctly, because this is one of those approaches where we want errorless learning. We don't want to reinforce inaccurate productions. But what if you have a kid who can't do K or G yet, right? I get a lot of those kids who takes time. And so we don't focus an entire session on that. We maybe focus five minutes at the end of the session.

to see if I can get them, if I can use new cues to get them to be stimulable. And then we can, once they are stimulable, then we're gonna spend an entire 60 minutes of therapy on that sound with particular words. And so if a child is not stimulable, absolutely, I will maybe even write, child will produce or child will exhibit stimulability of this particular sound.

I'll even write in any phonetic context. Maybe they can get it at the end of a word. I just want them to show me that they're stimulable. So in any phonetic context, or you can say in isolation, given maximal multisensory cues, because we're going to go through our entire toolbox until we can get that kid to say that sound. And then, you might even say like five times out of 10 trials or six out of 10 trials or eight out of 10 trials.

whatever you think that child will be able to achieve within that time frame. Because once they can achieve that, then you can start targeting at the word level and then you can rewrite for that next reporting period, you can rewrite that goal to address word level practice.

Marisha (29:40)

Perfect. And anything else that you would add in terms of goals?

Amy Graham (29:45)

I'll probably have something to add after we stop recording. I'll probably think of something, but I don't, nothing that's coming to mind at the moment.

Marisha (29:48)

That's always how it works.

Yeah, and I love this because it's like once you have a little bit of a framework and everything, like it feels so simple and it like it makes sense. So.

Amy Graham (30:04)

And I think it is. It's a lot simpler than we think. I think most things like apraxia therapy, it's a lot easier than we think. Not easy, but simple. It's a lot simpler than we think as far as choosing targets and thinking of what do we actually want. If you stand back and you kind of take a big picture as opposed to getting up close and looking at the 45 sound substitutions and omissions that the child has, step back. What's the big picture? What do we want to happen? What sounds do we want them to acquire? It really is simple.

Marisha (30:31)

Yeah. And I, especially with speech sound disorders, it seems like, like the cycles approach and like DTTC for apraxia, a lot of them have really nice like step -by -step guidelines to at least guide the intervention. and I love what you said about writing goals for the specific speech task and not having it be for a specific approach. because that, that makes it simpler too.

Amy Graham (30:43)

Yeah.

Absolutely.

And it gives you freedom to change your mind. I love the complexity approach. It's one of my favorite approaches where we target a complex cluster or two that it might be challenging for the child that they may not even be stimulated before, but that's what we're doing. But that depends on the resilience of the child, the maturity of the child, the age of the child. I've had some kids, I go in and I'm like, yep, this is what we're doing. And the minute I challenge them with something that's hard, they're under the table and I've lost them. And so I think, okay.

you know what, this is not working, I'm gonna switch to the cycles approach because we're working within their zone of proximal development for the cycles approach, where they just need a little bit of help to be accurate. And sometimes kids need to feel that success right away in order for you to get buy into the whole therapy process. And the cycles approach can be a really great way to do that.

Marisha (31:45)

Yeah, that's great. So any last tips or tricks before we wrap things up? I mean, you could speak for hours and hours and hours and hours. We could be here next week still.

Amy Graham (31:53)

man.

I could go on and on. I think my biggest tip for any SLP, and this kind of goes even beyond goals, is to understand the nature of the child's speech sound disorder. Meaning, again, we're going back to assessment, but what's going on? Is it articulation? Is it a distortion, like our lateral lispers, those are distortions where we should use a motor -based intervention? Or is it phonological? Do we really need to...

to even if they're not stimulable, just because I think this is a common misunderstanding. If a child is not stimulable for a sound, then it must not be phonological. That is not true. A child does not have to be stimulable for their primary deficit to be phonological in nature. Just means we're going to have to work extra hard and use a lot of cues in our toolbox to help them become stimulable for that sound. But once you understand, OK, what's the nature of the child, it's going to help you choose a better approach.

And honestly, it's gonna help kids get off your caseload faster. And I tell when I do my courses, that is my goal for parents, for the kids, for SLPs. I wanna get kids off your caseload and I don't wanna see it this time next year because I want to have implemented an approach that matched the child's deficit so that we can make them intelligible so much faster. And using a phonological intervention for phonological deficits is so much faster than using that traditional articulation approach. So I think that would be my takeaway.

specific necessarily, but find out, make sure you know what the deficit is so you can be much more effective and efficient in your service delivery.

Marisha (33:34)

Yes, a thousand percent. And everyone wins if we're able to do that. Because like you said, our caseload's more manageable, kids get like, they don't have to come to speech, they get to be, if they're in the schools, they get to be in the least restrictive environment. And if they're able to be intelligible, their quality of life will be that much better. So lots and lots of wins with that.

Amy Graham (33:36)

yes.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Marisha (33:58)

yeah, and I'm just so grateful for you, Amy, for continuing to share so generous generously. I'm always super inspired whenever I hear you speak or I get to chat with you on the podcast. yeah, just really grateful for your time and that you're sharing your expertise with us. And I think that's a wrap.

Amy Graham (34:19)

Thanks, Marisha. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me back on. It's been fun.

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How to Craft AAC Goals for Speech Therapy

October 3, 2024 by Hung Le Leave a Comment

Welcome to another episode of the SLP Now podcast! We’re continuing the series where we do a deep dive on all things GOALS, and I’m bringing some of the best in our field to join me and share their expertise.

Today, Rachel Madel discusses setting goals for AAC (Augmentative and Alternative Communication) users.

Guest Bio
Rachel Madel M.A.,CCC-SLP is a board-certified speech-language pathologist and AAC specialist. She co-hosts a weekly podcast called “Talking with Tech” that guides parents and professionals on utilizing technology to support communication. Her work has been featured in Autism Parenting Magazine, Speech Science, Practical AAC, Xceptional Ed, and ChildNEXUS. She is the founder of a digital media company that provides educational resources, therapy materials, and training videos to help support parents of children with autism.

Takeaways from This Episode

  • Independent initiation is a crucial goal for AAC users, regardless of their age or communication modality.
  • Spontaneous language samples can provide valuable insights into a student’s current communication and help identify areas for growth.
  • Expanding vocabulary to include core language and developing pragmatic functions are important goal areas for AAC users.
  • Repairing communication breakdowns should be a goal for students with low speech intelligibility.
  • Incorporating AAC into the entire team’s goals and training communication partners is essential for success.
  • Rachel Maydell’s AAC Ally course and the interview with Rachel Dorsey provide valuable resources for goal writing and understanding neurodiversity affirming practices.

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Links and Additional Resources

  • Rachel’s Instagram
  • Rachel’s Website
  • Rachel’s YouTube Channel
  • Rachel’s Podcast Talking with Tech
  • Rachel’s Course; AAC Ally
  • Interview with Rachel Dorsey

What Are AAC Goals and Why Are They Important?

AAC goals serve as structured steps for developing a student’s ability to communicate using AAC systems. 

Unlike traditional speech therapy goals, AAC goals must account for multimodal communication, integrating methods like AAC devices, picture exchanges, and verbal cues. 

These goals also provide pathways for students to engage meaningfully in their environments, fostering both independent initiation and core language use.

“Before we can dive into the goals, we need to make sure that we have all the elements of an AAC system that will help support our students fully.” 

– Rachel Madel

Tips for Writing AAC Goals for Speech Therapy

Setting effective AAC goals requires collaboration, careful observation, and understanding the student’s unique needs. 

Rachel suggests starting with independent initiation, focusing on goals that encourage students to communicate without prompting. 

In addition, AAC goals should address core vocabulary, pragmatic functions, and, for verbal communicators, repairing communication breakdowns.

“When given aided language input, the student will… you can embed that into a goal to get the team on board.” 

– Rachel Madel

AAC Goal Examples

Here are some examples of AAC goals based on Rachel’s approach:

  • Independent Initiation Goal: “The student will independently initiate communication using their AAC device in 80% of opportunities.”
  • Core Vocabulary Goal: “The student will use core vocabulary (e.g., ‘eat,’ ‘drink,’ ‘go’) to request actions in 4 out of 5 trials.”
  • Pragmatic Functions Goal: “The student will use AAC to request, comment, and protest across 3 different activities.”

These goal examples support students in using AAC for more than just basic requests, expanding their ability to interact meaningfully with others and navigate various communication contexts.

AAC Goal Bank

For SLPs looking to explore additional examples and resources, the SLP Now Speech Therapy Goal Bank provides an extensive collection of AAC goal templates. 

This goal bank offers practical starting points, helping SLPs design goals that are customized to each student’s AAC needs.

With these resources, practitioners can set functional, impactful goals that promote growth in independent communication and core vocabulary.

AAC Goals for Functional Communication

AAC goals for functional communication aim to equip students with the skills needed to interact effectively across everyday environments and situations. Functional communication includes the ability to request, reject, comment, and express preferences or needs. 

For many students, Rachel emphasizes the importance of fostering independence and building core vocabulary as foundational elements. 

By focusing on functional goals, SLPs can support students in developing practical communication skills that allow them to engage with others meaningfully.

“So often, I want to build on the communication the child already has and get them using that more independently.”

– Rachel Madel

Writing AAC Goals for Specific Populations

Early AAC Goals

For young or early communicators, AAC goals should focus on building foundational communication skills. 

At this stage, it’s essential to encourage basic interactions and begin with simple, high-frequency vocabulary that supports common needs. 

Early AAC goals often center on cause-and-effect understanding, like pressing a button to request or comment. By focusing on accessible actions, these goals help lay the groundwork for more advanced communication as the child develops.

“Sometimes we need an in-between system… it’s really about helping young students initiate and understand the basics of AAC, and then building from there.” 

– Rachel Madel

Writing AAC Goals for Students with Autism

When crafting AAC goals for students with autism, it’s important to consider their unique communication styles and sensory needs. 

Rachel recommends focusing on goals that incorporate core vocabulary while promoting independence and reducing prompt dependency. 

For instance, goals can target pragmatic language use, such as requesting, commenting, or protesting, which allows students to express themselves across different settings. 

Additionally, consider building in goals that help autistic students manage communication breakdowns, ensuring they can advocate for themselves when needed.

“AAC goals need to support all the reasons we communicate—not just requests but also comments, questions, and even advocacy.” 

– Rachel Madel

AAC Goals for Emergent Communicators

students who are just beginning to communicate—goals should focus on building independence and expanding from nouns into core vocabulary.

“We can figure out targets for vocabulary by looking at what the child is communicating independently and spontaneously.” 

– Rachel Madel

AAC Goals for Verbal Communicators 

With low speech intelligibility, AAC goals often include repairing communication breakdowns. These goals help students understand when they are not understood and use their AAC device to clarify.

“One of the biggest goals for verbal communicators is repairing breakdowns—helping them understand when they weren’t understood.” 

– Rachel Madel

AAC Goals for Core Vocabulary

Core vocabulary consists of high-frequency words like “go,” “help,” “more,” and “stop,” which can be applied across multiple contexts. 

AAC goals focused on core vocabulary aim to expand a student’s ability to communicate more effectively and flexibly. 

Rachel emphasizes integrating core vocabulary into AAC goals to support more dynamic interactions. 

For instance, if a child is already using nouns to communicate, an SLP might introduce goals that encourage them to use core words to request actions or describe activities. 

This approach allows students to interact with others more naturally and enhances their overall communication skills.

Advanced Concepts in AAC Goal Setting

As students progress, advanced AAC goal-setting techniques can help them achieve greater independence and precision in communication. 

These concepts include developing a cueing hierarchy, which helps students gradually rely less on prompts, and setting up repair strategies for communication breakdowns. 

For example, Rachel advocates for building awareness of communication challenges so students can independently recognize and correct misunderstandings. 

Incorporating these strategies into AAC goals empowers students to take ownership of their communication and interact with increased confidence and autonomy.

“Repairing breakdowns and understanding when you weren’t understood are essential parts of advanced goal setting, especially for verbal communicators.” 

– Rachel Madel

Frequently Asked Questions about AAC Goals

What are AAC goals in speech therapy?

AAC goals are objectives set to help students communicate effectively using augmentative and alternative communication methods. They focus on promoting independence, building core vocabulary, and addressing the functional needs of each student.

How do you write AAC goals for nonverbal students?

For nonverbal students, AAC goals often focus on building initiation skills and using core vocabulary. These goals enable students to communicate needs, preferences, and engage with others through their AAC systems.

What are AAC goals for core vocabulary?

Core vocabulary goals involve teaching high-frequency words that can be used across many contexts, such as “go,” “want,” and “help.” These words provide students with flexible tools for communication, allowing them to participate more naturally in interactions.

How do you track progress with AAC goals?

Tracking AAC progress involves regular assessments and observations, such as monitoring a student’s ability to independently initiate communication, expand vocabulary use, and engage in various pragmatic functions. This helps ensure that goals are evolving with the student’s progress.

Conclusion

Crafting AAC goals involves supporting independence, core vocabulary, and a range of pragmatic functions, all tailored to each student’s needs. 

With strategies like independent initiation and core language expansion, SLPs can create meaningful goals that empower students in their communication journey.

For additional guidance, tools like the SLP Now Goal Bank and resources from experts like Rachel Madel can be instrumental in setting effective, practical goals for AAC users.

“AAC is for everyone… it’s about embedding AAC into all aspects of communication.” 

– Rachel Madel


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Marisha Mets (00:00)

Hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I'm really excited to be continuing our Goal series. We are going to be chatting about goals for AAC with Rachel Maydell. She is a board certified speech language pathologist and AAC specialist. She also co -hosts the podcast Talking with Tech, which is an incredible resource. And she's also been featured in tons of publications and

has created some amazing courses. And so I'm gonna turn it over to Rachel. So hi, Rachel, welcome. Hi, I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, I'm so excited to have you and to dive into this conversation. And I'm curious, just before we start chatting about all things goals, how did you end up learning so much about AAC and having this become your specialty? You know, I always like to share the story.

when I was in graduate school, I remember walking into a preschool classroom and seeing a few of the students using picture exchange and watching the SLP that we were kind of there to observe just using pictures and visual supports. And I remember thinking to myself, like, why is she just not working on having them talk? And so I'm just like, wow, like young, like fresh me.

just being so judgy about AAC. And it's ironic that that's now my specialty and definitely an area of passion for me. But I think it's a testament to not truly understanding the power of visual supports, the power of AAC. And so very quickly I realized that many students benefit from AAC. And I was in a situation early on in my career where

I had a lot of students that just weren't making progress with traditional approaches with, you know, they weren't imitating verbally. They didn't have a lot of sounds. their speech was very inconsistent and unreliable. And I remember one of my first cases where I was like, okay, I think this is a really good candidate for AAC. Like, let me call the AAC specialists. And she came in and helped support, you know, me in kind of an assessment and

it was incredible to see the progress that we could make. And so as soon as I had that experience, I was just like, okay, what other kids could I introduce AAC to? And then one thing led to the next. And my personality is very much intense rabbit holes of research. And so as soon as I was just like, my gosh, I need to learn more about AAC. I don't know, hours and hours and hours later, I...

was like, is so awesome. And the more I learned, the more I integrated into my clinical practice. And then here we are. And now I'm like teaching others about AAC. it's definitely an area of passion for me simply because the kids that were helping to support communication with AAC, they're very complex cases oftentimes. And communication is not coming easily. And it's become, you know,

a passion of mine to help support that population of students because it can feel very overwhelming as a parent. And I've had a lot of families come to me in my practice and just feel hopeless that like nothing will work. And when we get the right tool in front of a student and we know how to utilize that tool and support them through that tool, it's really incredible to see language develop, to see all different skills.

and really get to know who that student is because now we have a way to connect with them. And so that's kind of the short version of how I got interested in it and I think why I'm so passionate about it. Yeah, I love that. And I could just see you lighting up. That passion definitely comes through. I love that. so the goal of this podcast is to chat about goals and help SLPs navigate that.

But that's clearly a very small piece of the puzzle when we're thinking about our ultimate goal of helping students, students a form of communication. And we're thinking about high quality assessment and implementing treatment strategies and all of that. So what are your favorite resources? Maybe we can just call out a few things or maybe just mindset types of things just to help SLPs

navigate those elements and maybe point them towards some resources. Yeah. So I think the first thing to mention is that if you're working with students, making sure that they have access to a robust AAC system. So it's like, before we can dive into kind of the goals, like we need to make sure that we have all the elements of an AAC system that will help support our students fully.

And so when I'm thinking about robust AAC, I'm making sure that that system has access to lots of core language. It's not just a bunch of nouns. It supports motor planning for communication, which we know is so important when it comes to AAC, meaning the buttons don't move and they stay in one place. The more kind of touches you need on an AAC device to get to where you're going, the harder it becomes, the longer the motor plan.

the more complex it is, the less likely our students are going to be communicating with us. And the less likely communication partners are going to be modeling on that device if it's six hits to get to where I'm going. so motor planning becomes an important principle of robust AAC grammar, being able to change from singular to plural, from regular tense to past tense and future tense. All of those things become really important.

And another huge one is access to a keyboard and literacy. Because we know that we can only program so many words into an AAC system. We have to give kids access to letters and spelling so that they can fully communicate all the things that they want to share and what they want to say. And so those are kind of like the big points. So if you're working with a student who doesn't have access to high tech, robust AAC, then there's definitely some,

things that you can do to start trialing, it's okay, because that's the reality of the nature of the work that we do, right? I just saw a kid the other day and he's using a pecs book and I'm like, okay, like how do we start aligning that student on a trajectory for high tech robust AAC? And so I just wanna kind of call that out because I think that sometimes we can feel like stuck as clinicians, like, okay, like I know that.

He might be a good candidate for something more robust or I don't know the private SLP recommended this system, but I'm not seeing a keyboard and I'm not seeing core language. so definitely making sure that our students are on that path because so often I see families come to me in my practice with AAC systems that are already set up. And I'm like, there's some tweaks that we need to make here because

This is just like a bunch of nouns, right? We know we need lots of different parts of speech and all of those kinds of elements of robust AAC. So I wanna start there just because I think it's an important reminder for everyone. Does it necessarily have to be high tech? Although that's the easiest for most students in this day and age, but there are things like pod books and things that are robust that are not necessarily on a high tech speech generating device. But for most of our students, we're looking towards high tech.

and so anyway, I just want to, I want to share that first and foremost. Yeah. And I think this is, cause I feel like in grad school, in my AAC class, they went through like all of the different options and there is kind of like, if we see these things, like use this type of system. and I feel like that's one thing that I've learned from you is that like, like, like, there anyone who you wouldn't use? Like anything that would exclude a kiddo from using, like a

high tech device that has that robust AAC system with the core language supporting more motor planning? No, the only exception potentially to that would be a student who is really young and we're just trying to get them initiating on AAC. So I just did that assessment with that kid with the PEX book. We actually recommended more of a stepping stone AAC, which is what I like to call it. It's like not

Super robust, however, we know that we're not gonna stay there forever. And I'm very clear with the family and the whole team, like we're using the system so that we can improve fine motor so that we can eventually get to this system. And I show that system, that kind of end goal. So that would be the only exception. Sometimes we need an in -between system where we're trying to really target the fine motor and just kind of.

get this young little one to understand the cause and effect of an AAC system. But no, I feel like so often we can go directly to high tech AAC and have a lot of success. I think it's a myth that we need to get to a certain level of PEGs or we need to try paper -based or light tech AAC before we do something robust. I've worked with two -year -olds that are on a high tech robust AAC system.

Granted, have to make some modifications sometimes and use some masking of some of the vocabulary, but like it's really cool that we can, you know, right out of the gate, start with something more robust. And again, we have to design with the end in mind, meaning if we know this is where we're headed, then like we need to get there as soon as possible and kind of reverse engineer our ways, our way back instead of like, well, right now.

gonna start with this system that has super big buttons and there's only six words on the screen. And it's like, that might be where the student is now, but if that's not where we want them to go, then we're gonna have to change the system over time. And so my biggest concern is that I don't wanna have to change that AAC system if I can avoid it. Cause that's like metaphorically pulling the rug out from underneath a student, like to completely change their AAC system takes time and.

all of that energy we've spent for that first system, now we have to kind of start fresh with a new one. So my goal in an assessment and the selection process is like, how can we get to that end goal and then work our way back? It's like, okay, we know we want this system long -term. How do we make those modifications to help support it more? They are currently knowing that over time, these skills will build, their vocabulary will build, all of these things will improve and we'll be in a really solid place.

Yeah. And it's almost like a kid starting preschool in English, and then he starts to master it. And then in kindergarten, like, just kidding. We have to speak Spanish now. It's almost like telling them to learn a whole new language because they're starting over with that motor plan and all new icons and all of that. So yeah, that makes sense. OK. And then anything else you wanted to share?

No, I mean, that is just like a really important reminder. And if you think that it is student might benefit from AAC, like you're right. So like try it. AAC hurts no one, helps everyone. And if it's not necessary, eventually we don't need to use it, but it can definitely be such a great support for students in learning language. Even, you know, many of the students in my practice, they have verbal speech. They just, they're autistic and it's not consistent and reliable. And so they need some type of backup.

And so there's so many different ways that you can utilize AAC to help support students. Yeah, I love that. Great. So should we start diving into some goal chat now? Yes, let's go. So because I feel like we could talk about this for hours and hours and hours. But if you were sitting down with an SLP who is like,

Okay, so I have this new AAC kiddo. Like, what do I think about as I start to navigate goals? Like, what would you say? Yeah, I mean, I think that it comes down to a few different areas that I like to think through when I'm thinking about goals for an AAC student, especially one who's an emergent communicator, because oftentimes kids that are getting AAC...

they're just kind of starting off now having an OO, a way that's reliable to express themselves. And so we're really thinking through that lens of emergent communicator, even if they're 12 or 15 or the age doesn't really matter, right? An emergent communicator is just starting off with language, just starting off, you know, with AAC especially. And so I like to think about how is this student currently

initiating communication because so often I see that especially if they haven't had access to AAC, even if they have some verbal speech, these students become very prompt dependent. And so they're not really initiating communication. And so I'd say 95 % of the students that I start working with, my primary goal is to work on independent initiation.

And that can be across any modality of communication, meaning it doesn't have to just be with AAC, but I really need kids independently initiating more. And the reason why I need that is because one, we know how quickly and easily students can become prompt dependent. And one way to think about this is if you are looking at a student and you're doing an assessment or this is a student that's on your caseload,

happens when you take all of the supports away, meaning like you're not prompting them, you're not asking them a question, you're not modeling language, like what are we left with? And that would be, you know, spontaneous language sample, right? Like what is a student saying completely on their own? And when I, and this is an exercise that I actually have communication partners do. Parents, like when I first meet a student, I send them home with a tracking sheet. like, tell me what your child said and in what context throughout the next week before I see you next.

and we're gonna look at that together. Same thing with teachers. You can even do this, you know, if you're doing an observation with a student that's brand new to your caseload or not brand new, just observe in the classroom, what are they saying? And oftentimes it's not a lot of communication. And so my first goal is how do we get kids more independently initiating communication? Again, whatever modality, it's just important that kids are initiating.

And the reason that becomes so important is because it really forces the communication partners around a child to pull back and give them space and wait time. And all these beautiful strategies that we know are so important to allow kids the space to become independent with their communication. And so that's the number one, I'd say goal area for me. And of course it's looking at what a student's currently doing and building off of those strengths.

But so often I really want to build up the current communication they have and I want to get them using that communication more independently. And that can be a huge shift again, because it's like, seems pretty straightforward. It's like, yeah, independent initiation. However, in order to get there, you often have to do a lot of training and support with the communication partners because

Communication partners like teachers and paraprofessionals, parents, they're jumping in, they're asking the question. They're saying, tell me on your talker, tell me, what do you want? They're giving us super high levels of support. But once you train communication partners to kind of tempt, pause, just give space, all of a sudden we see kids initiating communication more. And then we have a really strong foundation to expand vocabulary.

to go into all of the of nuances that many people think of when they're thinking about goals for AAC students. But if we don't have independent initiation, then we're not going to get very far without super high levels of prompting. And at the end of the day, when I send my student off, like I want them to be able to independently communicate and such an important thing. And again, it takes a lot of kind of training of the circle of support.

But when you see that, and you can oftentimes see that happen pretty quickly if you are capitalizing on what a student's motivated by and you're really doing that communication partner training, that can be huge. And again, you're not coming in with something brand new. It's like building off of the communication the child's already showing you. And so that is a huge topic area for goals, in my opinion. Yeah, I love that. And that makes a lot of sense because we're

if we're focusing on what they're independently communicating, that's what's going to be most important to them and most functional too. Like that's how they communicate. So we can easily work off of that too. Exactly. And when you see that spontaneous language sample come back, right? It's like, I know there's intrinsic motivation for communication because these are the things you were motivated to say in the last week. And so it shows me exactly what kids are motivated by. It's like,

Okay, they said iPad, they said outside, they said more when it comes to jumping on the trampoline, right? It's like so obvious what they're currently motivated by. And then if we look at that, then we can figure out ways to expand on what they're currently doing spontaneously. And that's really how you figure out targets for vocabulary is, you know, take that spontaneous language sample and then figure out how can I maybe...

If this student's using primarily nouns, it's like, how do I expand into more core language? Which gets me into the other topic area of goals, which is really important is like core language, right? So many of my students are using mostly nouns for communication and we can expand that into core language. There's opportunities when a child says their favorite food to then model eat or drink, right? And so it, but if the,

if you're trying to figure out goals, the best way to do that is to see what a child's communicating independently and spontaneously. And again, build off of that, because you have so much information there about what a child's currently doing. And we don't have to come out of the field with something brand new. It's just like, no, get them better at what they're already doing and nudging them in the right direction as far as expanding into more core language. Another one is pragmatic functions.

Many kids are just using requesting. And so how do we expand their pragmatic functions? These are all things I'm thinking about when I'm looking at that spontaneous language sample to figure out like, okay, where does this child actually need to go? You know, that would make a big impact for them. And those are kind of topic areas that I'm ticking off those boxes. I'm like, yes, most kids need to work on independent and initiation. Many of them need work with more core language and

many of them also are only using language for requesting for the most part. And so I need to expand into all the different reasons that we use language. Yeah, I love that. And then are those like the three main areas that you think about to start or is there anything you would add? Yeah, I mean, there's other kind of topic areas. say I'm working with a student who

I would consider it to be a primarily verbal communicator, meaning they are speaking and talking and the reason that they need AAC is because no one understands what they're communicating and what they're saying. So they have really low speech intelligibility. So for that student, I'd be thinking through repairing communication breakdowns, right? And so that's an area where I would certainly be writing a goal for repairing breakdowns because

So often our students don't even know that there was a breakdown. Like they're not even aware. So it's like building awareness. Like you were not understood my friend. Like, you know, cause oftentimes kids will say the same thing in the same way. And unfortunately some kids don't have the ability to say something more intelligibly. And so my primary goal for that student is getting them to understand, to go say it a different way, i .e. go to their

talker and say it using AAC. But there's very specific things you can do with kids to show that there's a communication breakdown. I'm a really big advocate of being super confused and like, how with this super confused face and my hands up in the air. Those are gestural cues to a student that they're not being understood. It's a naturally occurring thing that we can.

and exaggerate for our students so they can understand, someone's not understanding me right now. And then, you know, making sure that we're scaffolding that support for students. If every time they're not understood, we jump in and we say, tell me on your talker. Then guess what? That child's never gonna learn how to independently go to their AAC and tell you.

because we just come in with that prompt and like, they're like, okay, great, someone just puts my AAC device in front of me and that's what reminds my brain that I can use this, right? So again, it's kind of scaffolding that support so that we can, again, move towards independence. And so that would be one area that if you're working with a student who has verbal speech and is primarily a verbal communicator, they're excited to say things verbally even if they're not intelligible.

Repairing communication breakdowns would be a really big goal area. Yeah, that's great. And this has been a really nice overview of different areas to think about. so hopefully anyone listening feels like, I might have some goals for independent initiation or vocabulary or pragmatic functions. And that would be a good place to start. But if someone is wanting to learn more,

and dive more into all of the goals and all of that. Do you have any resources that you'd recommend? I actually am launching a brand new course. So I have a course called AAC Ally. It's the assessment version, but I'm really excited this fall I'm releasing the treatment edition and I go into tons of details about goals. I actually had an interview on talking with tech with Rachel Dorsey. Rachel Dorsey is

all about neurodiversity affirming practices. She's an autistic adult who talked in detail about goals for AAC. And one thing that I loved during that interview, and this was years ago that I had her on the podcast, but she said she always adds to the beginning of her goals for an AAC user when given unrestricted access to AAC, student will. And I've been like using that ever since. like, yes, I love this.

because it reminds everyone on the team to get that device. This device needs to be in front of the student all the time. I love that and it's actually a really great resource. can send you the show notes. Should I send you the link for the show notes? Because that's just a really, really great interview. Those are the big things that I'm thinking through when I'm thinking through goals and resources. We oftentimes will touch on these things during talking with tech.

But that episode in particular, feel like we really go into goals. And I know Rachel Dorsey has, I believe, a course on goal writing, which again, like she's a big proponent of an advocate of AAC. And yeah, I know that that is something that we're thinking through too, right? It's the goals that we're writing need to be based in neurodiversity affirming practices. And I'm always thinking through that lens too. And one other thing I'll add is that

You know, I think that when you're writing a goal, you have to consider the entire team around a student. And I think that, you know, there's ways that you can kind of build in these safeguards. So say a student doesn't have a lot of core language and you don't see a lot of modeling happening in the classroom. You can write in the goal.

when given aided language import or when given a model on their AAC, student will. And so I just wanna share that because there's ways that you can embed things into a goal that really help get that team bought in, get that team on board. AAC is for everyone. so it's like integrating into all the different goals and in IEP, I think is really important. And so.

Those are just some things too, to kind of keep in mind and consider. Just because I feel like we have an opportunity to integrate and embed AAC into an IEP in very strategic ways. And so that would be one more kind of piece of advice that I would give. Yeah, that's great. And I will make sure to add the links to the courses in the show notes and then also

The interview with Rachel Dorsey sounds great. And so I'll add all of those resources in the show notes so they're easy to find. then, so just a quick recap of the things we talked about. So we talked about considering independent initiation and then using the spontaneous language sample to help as a jumping off point to look at vocabulary goals, pragmatic function goals, and then

I love the snippet that you gave, like when given unrestricted access to AAC. And then definitely diving into Rachel's episode for more details on things to consider for those neurodiversity affirming goals. And then to consider that entire team. And like, if we're not seeing that modeling in the classroom, we can add a phrase like when given aided language stimulation. And I'm sure

that your AAC Ally course goes in or no, would it be the new course that goes into more of this? So they're both going to be called AAC Ally. So it's AAC Ally assessment, AAC Ally entry. So yes, it will definitely go into a lot more detail. There's a whole module on goal writing for AAC because it was an area that many people wrote to me about for the original AAC Ally assessment version. And I was like, man, like I need to help support the goal writing process. That's like such a big piece of this.

So yeah, there's a whole module on goal writing. Awesome. And then also, because I think a huge part of this is supporting the students environment. So of course there's things that we are going to teach the student, but we can potentially have way more impact by training the communication partners in their environment too. So I'm sure you dive into all of those. Totally. Well, that's the thing is like we

in order to be successful in this work, we have to actually be coaching communication partners. And so the other element of this is how do I help communication partners set goals for themselves? How do I help a teacher set a goal for how much she's gonna model during her specific lesson? How do I help a parent figure out how they're going to model this specific word?

in this routine. And so, you know, of course we have goals for our students, but we also can have goals for communication partners and help that communication partner set a goal. And we also can have goals for ourselves if we're new to AAC and we're like, I'm not even sure how to model. You know, we can have those goals for ourselves. And so I feel like the goal writing process can actually be a lot larger than just thinking about the goals for our students.

And yeah, I mean, that's what I do all day is I coach communication partners and part of that coaching is like, okay, we're all gonna, we're gonna sum it up and like, how are we gonna integrate this? How are we gonna make this a part of our routine? How are we gonna create these healthy habits so that it feels more seamless? Because I understand that AAC can feel very daunting and overwhelming and we have an opportunity to start integrating into people's routines in a way that feels really easy and achievable.

and we can kind of build off of those small wins. so, yeah, goal writing, we're in like a goal -writing matrix when we're thinking about AAC, because it's like, there's goals for me, there's goals for communication partners, there's goals for students. Yeah. I love, that's great. So many good things. Thank you so much for breaking this down for us. This was really helpful, and I'm excited to dive into the other resources too, because we're never done learning. There's always more.

Totally, I feel the same way. like, okay, like I get the chance to do a lot of, you know, presenting and speaking at conferences and things. And I'm always like so excited for the learning that happens because we all have our own unique experience and we all have really incredible ideas. And so it's like the more you are just curious to learn, I think the better a clinician you can be. And so it's just really exciting in this day and age how easy information is to get access to.

Yeah, I'm always curious to learn more. And I'm so thankful that I have so many people around me that are able to teach me and help me become a better clinician. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm grateful that you're one of those people who are me. So yeah, thank you so much for your time. This was amazing. And then again, check the link to the show notes is like in the description of the episode. So if you're listening and want access to those resources, go check it out and then.

Yeah. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. This was so fun.

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Autism IEP Goals For Students Not Yet Speaking

October 3, 2024 by Hung Le Leave a Comment

As SLPs, we know how rewarding it can be to create meaningful IEP goals for autistic students who are not yet speaking. 

These students communicate in unique ways, and our job is to set them up for success by crafting goals that tap into their full potential. Today, we’re diving into how you can develop IEP goals that meet their needs—whether they’re communicating with AAC devices or showing their first signs of verbal speech.

Drawing from expert advice by Rose Griffin, SLP and founder of ABA Speech, and Marisha Mets, founder of SLP Now, we’ll explore practical strategies for writing functional IEP goals that support communication, vocational skills, and overall success for students who are not yet speaking.

Let’s dig in!

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The problem with IEP Goals for “Nonverbal” Students with Autism – Why SLPs Need to Rethink These Terms in 2025

The language we use to describe autistic students has evolved. 

Terms like “nonverbal” may no longer fully reflect the capabilities of these students. In 2025, many experts, including Rose Griffin, recommend shifting to phrases like “students who are not yet speaking.” This change highlights the potential for speech development and acknowledges that communication can happen in many forms—whether through gestures, AAC devices, or spoken language.

Nonverbal Autism vs. Nonspeaking Autism

When it comes to describing students who are not yet speaking, the terms “nonverbal” and “nonspeaking” are often used, but they hold different implications. 

For many SLPs, terms like “nonverbal” might still be common in practice, but this language can unintentionally suggest that a student will never speak, which is not always the case. 

The term “nonspeaking” acknowledges that communication is happening through alternative methods, and verbal speech may emerge later. 

Many experts, including Rose Griffin, advocate for using “students who are not yet speaking” as a more inclusive and hopeful term to describe these students’ potential for communication.

By adopting terms that reflect progress and potential, SLPs can foster a more positive, forward-thinking approach to communication development.

Additional Note on Language Preferences:

It’s important to recognize that there is an ongoing debate between person-first language (PFL) and identity-first language (IFL). 

While person-first language (e.g., “person with autism”) was traditionally encouraged to emphasize the individual before their diagnosis, many autistic individuals now prefer identity-first language (e.g., “autistic person”), as it acknowledges autism as an integral part of their identity rather than something to be separated from. 

As SLPs, it’s essential to remain sensitive to individual and community preferences when choosing terminology.

Understanding Students Who Are Not Yet Speaking

Many autistic students communicate in ways other than speech. They may use gestures, facial expressions, or AAC (Augmentative and Alternative Communication) devices to express themselves. 

For these students, the key is to recognize and support their unique communication styles. While they may not be speaking yet, that doesn’t mean they won’t develop verbal skills later. It’s important to meet them where they are, focusing on their current abilities while working toward progress in communication.

“I specialize in helping all autistic learners find their voice, but especially those who, regardless of age, are still having a hard time finding a robust way  to start communicating.”

– Rose Griffin | Founder, ABA SPEECH LLC

The Importance of Comprehensive Assessment for Students with Autism Who Are Not Yet Speaking

Before crafting effective IEP goals, it’s crucial to thoroughly assess how a student communicates in various settings.

Rose suggests observing students during unstructured times, such as recess or lunch, to get a true sense of how they are communicating across the day

These insights can help ensure that goals are individualized and meaningful.

“It can be hard for students who are not yet speaking to give a standardized test and get a true snapshot of a learner’s communication baseline. Go into the classroom, go into the gym or recess or lunch. Some of those unstructured times are where you can really see those nuggets of how the student is really communicating.”

Rose Griffin | Founder, ABA Speech, LLC

Rose also emphasizes the importance of using tools like the Functional Communication Profile Revised and the Communication Matrix to capture a student’s communication baseline.

Functional Communication Profile Revised

The Functional Communication Profile Revised is a comprehensive assessment tool used to evaluate communication skills across various environments for individuals with disabilities, including those with autism. It can help you identify functional communication needs and strengths, which is essential for setting goals.

Click here for more info.

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Communication Matrix

The Communication Matrix is an assessment tool designed to evaluate the communication skills of individuals who are not yet using language. It focuses on how individuals express themselves through nonverbal means, including gestures, facial expressions, and augmentative communication devices. 

This tool is especially helpful for students with complex communication needs, such as those with autism who are not yet speaking. It helps SLPs and caregivers understand the student’s current communication abilities and develop appropriate goals.

You can explore more here: Communication Matrix.

Setting Functional IEP Goals for Students Who Are Not Yet Speaking

Functional IEP goals focus on helping students communicate effectively across all settings, particularly in real-world scenarios. 

Rose emphasizes that these goals should have real-world applicability and vocational relevance. 

For students who are not yet speaking, this might include learning to request help, using AAC devices, or participating in activities that build life skills. As Rose states; 

“We have to really get serious about why we’re working on this and how it’s going to be helpful for the student[…] We’re going to work on things that are important functionally, important for leisure skills, and also thinking about that vocational piece as well.”

Key Areas for IEP Goals for Nonspeaking Students

When setting IEP goals for students who are not yet speaking, it’s essential to focus on key areas that foster communication, independence, and meaningful participation in daily activities. 

These areas typically include functional communication, vocational skills, and leisure skills. 

Each of these domains plays a significant role in helping students engage with the world around them, whether through asking for help using AAC devices or building the skills needed for vocational settings.

Functional Communication Goals

Functional communication goals are designed to help non-speaking students develop the skills needed to express basic needs, make requests, and participate in daily activities using their current communication methods, whether through gestures, AAC devices, or other non-verbal means. 

These goals are essential because they focus on helping students communicate in ways that are practical and meaningful across various settings, such as at school, home, or in the community.

For non-speaking students, functional communication goals are relevant because they enable them to:

  1. Express needs and wants effectively (e.g., asking for help).
  2. Engage in social interactions.
  3. Participate in activities that enhance independence.

These goals lay the groundwork for more complex communication as the student’s abilities develop.

SLPs should ensure that these goals are directly applicable to real-world scenarios, enabling students to use communication tools across various settings.

Make sure to check out the full list of functional communication goals in the SLP Now Goal Bank as well as the ABA Autism Goal Bank.

Vocational Goals for Older Students Who Are Not Yet Speaking

Vocational goals are essential for older students, helping them build skills they can use in real-world settings. 

Rose emphasizes the importance of breaking down tasks into manageable steps. This process, known as task analysis, can be used to support students in learning key job-related tasks, like pushing in chairs or following a visual schedule at a work site. 

She explains; “I would come up with a task analysis […] just breaking down the skill into steps” to ensure progress is measurable.

Leisure Skills Goals

Leisure skills are often overlooked but are crucial for ensuring students can enjoy fulfilling, balanced lives. 

Rose’s suggests using modified leisure activities, such as adapted games like UNO or Scrabble, to help students engage in fun, meaningful ways. 

These goals are especially important for building social connections and giving students structured ways to relax and participate in group activities. As Rose notes, “We might end the session with a modified leisure activity” to keep the focus on participation and enjoyment”.

Tips for Writing Effective IEP Goals for Non-Speaking Students with Autism

Writing effective IEP goals for non-speaking students requires goals that are clear, measurable, and achievable. 

Rose emphasizes the importance of collaboration between SLPs, teachers, parents, and other stakeholders to ensure the goals align with the student’s real-world needs. 

SLPs should focus on goals that promote independence, communication, and participation across environments. Rose suggests framing goals around skills that will be valuable long-term, ensuring they are functional for both the classroom and beyond;

“When writing IEP goals, it’s important to be clear, measurable, and achievable. Collaboration with teachers, parents, and other stakeholders is key to success because ultimately, we’re all working towards the same goal—helping the student communicate and participate in the world around them.”

Rose Griffin | Founder, ABA Speech, LLC

More SLP Resources for Students with Autism

Check out these resources to learn more about how you can support students with autism:

Rose Griffin’s Favorite Resources for Students Not Yet Speaking:

  • ABA Speech Connection Membership: Provides access to specialized courses and support for SLPs working with students with autism, focusing on practical strategies for communication development.
  • ABA Autism Goal Bank: A curated collection of pre-made IEP goals tailored for students with autism, offering examples across various communication and social skill areas.
  • The Functional Communication Profile Revised: A comprehensive assessment tool used to evaluate an individual’s communication skills across a variety of settings, including non-verbal methods.
  • The Communication Matrix: An online community and tool designed to assess how non-verbal individuals communicate, providing a clear framework for setting communication goals.
  • Rose’s Instagram

Conclusion

In this guide, we’ve explored how to set effective IEP goals for students with autism who are not yet speaking. 

From functional communication to vocational skills, each goal should be tailored to meet the unique needs of these students. 

By utilizing tools like the Functional Communication Profile Revised and collaborating with a team of educators and parents, SLPs can create meaningful, achievable goals that foster real-world success. 

As Rose Griffin reminds us, the ultimate goal is to help these students communicate and thrive across environments!


At SLP Now, we are hard workers… but we also like to work smarter.

That means we’re constantly improving our materials, therapy planning resources, and the ways we support SLPs like YOU — so you can skip the hard work part and just work smarter. 👇

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How is that possible, you ask?

Because we analyzed all the books, identified the targets, and created unit plan pages that suggest activities based on the skills you’re targeting and your students’ needs. This is the one stop shop for all your literacy-based therapy needs, including resources for virtual field trips and visuals to help those concepts stick.

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Marisha (00:01)

Hey there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I'm really excited to have Rose Griffin with us here today. We are going to be chatting about writing goals for older students who are not yet speaking. And Rose has been on the podcast at least once or twice already, but she is a speech behavior analyst.

She has a really interesting perspective and I'm really excited to chat with her about older students who are not yet speaking.

Rose (00:36)

Thanks so much for having me. It's great to see you. It's great to be back on the podcast.

Marisha (00:41)

Yeah, and I cannot wait for this conversation. I like, I know you have so many great resources. But before we dive into all of the tips and resources, I'm curious if you could, because I did a super, super short bio for you. But I'm curious, how did you end up learning so much about working with this population? And can you tell us a little bit of your story?

Rose (01:05)

Yeah, absolutely. I became a speech therapist. My first year I worked just in a school and I worked with general education students who working on speech sounds funny enough because now I specialize in autism. In my second year, I started working in a non -public program for autistic learners who typically had behavioral barriers to their learning and a lot of the students were older. And so that's really where my passion started in helping students who are traditionally harder to reach and are

older in their chronological age, but still don't have a way to communicate with the world. And that just started my whole, I say mission in life now with my platform at ABA Speech, but I have worked in public schools and non -public programs and my platform here at ABA Speech allows me to really specialize in helping all autistic learners find their voice, but especially those who, regardless of age, are still having a hard time finding a robust way to.

to start communicating. And so that's really what I have specialized in clinically and doing trainings. And so that is why I really love speaking about this topic and because I feel like there's not a lot of information out there. So I like to be somebody who is a source of support while there's.

Marisha (02:19)

That's amazing, I love it. And the topic for our podcast today is writing goals, but writing goals is obviously a very tiny part of the puzzle. And we want to make sure that we're doing a high quality assessment before we dive into writing goals. We don't just wanna take a list and be like, that looks good. So we wanna have a good rationale. And we also want to make sure that we're implementing evidence -based practice and

evidence -backed strategies and all of that when we're planning our treatment based on those goals. And that's a lot to tackle. And since you are a phenomenal resource, I thought I would just ask, if there's an SLP who's newer to working with this population, we're going to share some quick tips for goals, but what other resources would you recommend to help get them kind of up to speed?

Rose (03:14)

I think the assessment process is so important and what can be hard for students who are not yet speaking is it can be hard to give a standardized test and get a true snapshot of a learner's communication baseline. So the functional communication profile revised is a nice resource to get more of that data on how the student is communicating across a lot of different domains. I've also used the communication matrix.

which is a free or very affordable online option that allows you to get a better idea of conveying how the student is currently communicating. And I think that if you give assessments like that, and then also, just like Asha says in the practice portal, is observe, do an observation. Go into the classroom, go into gym or recess or lunch. Some of those unstructured times is where you can really see those nuggets of how is the student really communicating.

How are they applying their skills across the day? And then all of that information together is going to give you a really nice baseline of, okay, here is how the student's currently communicating and what is going to be most important so that student can communicate more effectively, can have a way to communicate with the world across environments. And that's gonna be so important as a student gets older with vocational opportunities and social opportunities and things like that. So that's kind of how I approach the assessment piece.

Marisha (04:37)

That's amazing. I love that as a quick overview. And the communication matrix is especially cool. For those of you who haven't used it, it's an online tool and it makes like a really nice visual. And it's really nice to kind of show parents our rationale and all of that. Yeah, so I love all of those. So functional communication profile revised and the communication matrix as to assessment.

options and then also observing throughout the students school day to get a better picture. And then so in terms of intervention and I think we did we actually chatted about this on our previous podcast. I'll have to link to it in the show notes but I'm curious like what resources would you recommend for an SLP who's

kind of wondering, like looking for ideas on where, like how to structure therapy or how to start approaching things.

Rose (05:40)

Yeah, I mean, we talk about that a lot in our courses of ABA Speech Connection, our CEU membership, or ASHA approved CE providers. And I try to always incorporate older students because once again, there's not a lot of great information. There's actually a really good Facebook group for middle school and high school speech therapists on, it's just on Facebook and there's, it's a really nice group of people. But I try to answer a lot of the questions in there and provide courses. And I really think that for students who are not yet speaking, who are middle school, high school and beyond,

a focus on how is a student communicating for functional communication, how are they communicating within a vocational setting because that becomes something with the transition piece that we need to think about. And the way that I frame social language skills, because that can be a touchy subject with people too, we want to make sure that we have a sense and it's not compliance -based by any stretch, but social skills can be really important in the workplace. And so the way that I kind of work on that, which we might've talked about last time a little bit,

is through leisure skills. So adapted and modified leisure skills. How can this person have work in their life that they enjoy and when they have a break time or when they go home, how can we help them have this larger life? Because what I've seen doing this 20 plus years and just having a lot of friends who have autistic kids of their own is that when somebody gets out of school and they're no longer receiving school services,

that person's life can get really small. And the families too, if they don't have access to the community, if they're not in a day program that they really enjoy, if they don't have employment, whether independent or with a job coach, a person's life can get really small. And so as a speech language pathologist, I'm always thinking, why is this important? Why am I working on this? I'm not saying get rid of the prepositions and things like that, but I kind of am. We have to really get serious about.

Why are we working on this? Why is this important for this person when they're 30, when they're 40, when they're 50? And that's how I really kind of have that two pronged approach of, okay, we're gonna work on things that are important functionally, important for leisure skills, and then also thinking about that vocation piece as well.

Marisha (07:47)

Yeah, I love that. So just to recap, focusing on functional, vocational, and then leisure skills. And then I'll link to your membership sounds amazing. Those courses, I think would be super helpful for someone navigating this world. And then I'll also link to our old podcast episode just for a little bit more context in terms of that. But that was super helpful.

So now we get to start chatting about the goal side of things. And I feel like you gave us a little bit of a preview when you were talking about treatment. But what are the most important considerations when writing goals for those older students who are not yet speaking?

Rose (08:36)

I think something that's really important, if you're providing any type of individual instruction, which some people may be getting individual instruction is thinking that I always like to use this line that the student will complete targeted skill, whatever it is in the larger school environment. I definitely think that we have to get out of the therapy room. There's still some clients I would see in the therapy room in middle school, high school, maybe a student who has selective mutism, but we're eventually going to generalize those skills to the larger.

School environment maybe a student who stutters but we're also going to practice strategies and then generalize it to the real world because We have to get really functional and there's a lot of research that says that if our treatment Looks closer to what the natural environment is then we're going to have a better chance that those skills are going to generalize Which at this age, it's very important I'll never forget I went to a talk once and the lady said she saw a student and the shirt said on the front I have autism and on the back it said don't waste my time

which I thought was really, really funny. But that's kind of how I think of things. I want to be really comfortable saying like, this is why this is important for this student. This is the scope and sequence of why this is important. And I had a group of students that I started working with in third grade and.

It was a small district. I actually worked with those students until they were about in 11th grade and I had other students on my caseload, but it was kind of nice. They were really differentiated group just to kind of see what is the scope and sequence. Why am I working on this now and how's that going to be helpful for when the student is in high school and goes to job supported employment? How is that going to be helpful when the students really just did a supported employment with a district job coach and things like that? So I think getting really firm on why these things are important is going to.

really set you up for your goal setting to be functional.

Marisha (10:22)

Yeah, I think that's really important. And I love how you said that, like highlighting the research that shows that if treatment looks more like the real world, then we're more likely to generalize, which is.

ultimately what we want. Like who it doesn't matter. I always talk about this when it comes to like following directions types of goals. Like it doesn't matter if they can follow five million step directions in the therapy room. Like what will they, what are they looking like on the playground or at work or any of that. So I love that. and then,

So do you think we could dive into like maybe an example or two for the different areas that you mentioned? So you talked about functional communication, vocational goals, leisure skills. Could we maybe just chat through what that might look like a little bit more specifically?

Rose (11:07)

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I had one student who was working on a vocational skill of going down to after lunch, him and appear. It was myself and a parapro. We would walk down to the cafeteria and the students would push in the chairs. They each had kind of different jobs in the cafeteria. And this was just kind of getting them ready for, it's like pre -vocational for when they're going to go to a vocational site, which is what they did at the high school that I worked in.

And so what I did for those students is I came up with a task analysis, which is just breaking down the skill of pushing in the chairs at lunch. And so it just was a step by step. I'd say, okay, we're going to go do our job now. We're going to go push in the chairs, potentially show a visual on the students visual schedule. And then just circling, like, did the student walk down the hall nicely? You know, did they start pushing in a chair and then look to the other one and orient to it? There's actually a lot of different steps.

And so then I would write down how many steps were included in that whole protocol and then what level of prompting we were hoping to get to. So it wasn't going to be completely independent, but probably maybe with no more than two prompts or something like that. So I'd have the steps listed, I'd break them down. And then you can just Google task analysis and you just write down every little step. And then you can just circle a plus or a minus, a plus or a minus.

And then that way, I feel like that's really nice real world data that is going to translate to more of a vocational setting. So that was an example of one vocational skill that we had addressed at the high school setting.

Marisha (12:48)

Yeah, I love that. And then, so with the task analysis, do you notate like the level of prompting for each of the steps or is that more general?

Rose (12:59)

That's a good question. Yes. Yeah, I would. And it depends on who, you know, because you want these things to be worked on, not just by the speech language pathologists, right? I always say my most important job is not the actual therapy. It's building rapport with the entire team so that I'm really just kind of helping to support communication that happens when I'm nowhere in sight. That's really where the magic happens on school -based teams.

And so yeah, you could definitely put the level of prompting and that gets into a whole, probably a whole other show, but we don't want to verbally prompt something because we want to verbal prompting is really hard to take that prompt away. We don't want our students to be prompt dependent. And that's something that really happens a lot with all students who are receiving services. And so for that specific example of pushing in the chairs, I might do a gestural prompt and then just pointing to the chair that needs to be pushed in next and then try to fade.

And just to piggyback on that, something I'm doing with my podcast, Autism Outreach, is like a little summer series where I'm doing shorter solo shows. And one that I talk about is making friends with the school administrative assistant or secretary, whatever your district calls them, and head custodian. And that is how we became up with that vocational activity. It's just trying to be friendly with people in the building and be a detective for what vocational opportunities.

might exist for your students in your buildings. And that's a nice way to, too, advocate for what a speech -language pathologist does, because most people don't really know what our scope and practice is.

Marisha (14:28)

Yeah, I love that. And that's so just functional and applicable. Yeah, that's really awesome. And I feel like if they, so if we're writing the goal in the IEP, we would just reference the kind of like task analysis kind of rubric that you created and use that to score.

Rose (14:51)

Yeah, you can definitely use the word rubric, whatever makes sense for you. Task analysis might be a jargon type term, but just gives you a framework. And I wouldn't just put the one vocational task in there. I would probably leave it open ended and maybe put a total of five vocational tasks or whatever it is with the criterion being whatever you set for the student. And then over two or three consecutive sessions, whatever makes sense for you in your clinical or school based setting.

Marisha (15:18)

Yeah, I love that example. I think that'll be really helpful. And you gave, because some of these things can feel really challenging to measure, but I think using the task analysis and having kind of like a checklist that you're using that you can quantify, you can quantify like the level of prompts needed or whatever makes sense. I think that would be, that's really cool.

Rose (15:27)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (15:41)

I love it. Okay. And then what about leisure skills? What could that?

Rose (15:46)

Yeah, so for leisure, I might go into the classroom and do a group, like a leisure group. And so we might start with a question of the day that has visuals, or maybe when I had a smart board, they had smart board markers. I used to love that. It's such a nice thing when you have that in a school. Question of the day, everybody comes up and answers. Then we do an adapted book with real life pictures about something the students are doing. Usually it was about a vocational unit. I have this whole vocational book that I've created, and I have one for unit.

housekeeping unit because I knew what my kids are going to be job sampling as they got older and then we would end the game or end the session with a modified leisure activity. And so the way that I typically write those goals and that's included in this goal bank that I think we're going to put in show notes is just to put a duration of time that the student is going to engage in a group and then I might just put how many times they're going to participate and that might just be examples of like.

comes to the board, answers the question. It might be more open -ended. It really depends on your district and how specific you need to get. But I might say within a 25 -minute group session, Quinn will participate 10 times with no more than one prompt over three consecutive sessions. So participate could mean a lot of things. It could mean coming to the board with a smart board marker and voting. It might mean raising their hand. If I say who's excited to...

I don't know, take a walk on the track today. It's just kind of that. I hate goals that get us into specific ways to communicate. I really hate when an advocate would want me to write a goal for commenting because some of my kids didn't care. They didn't want to comment. They didn't care about that. And I think the neurodiversity movement really makes you think, with the neurodiversity lens, why are we working on this? Why is this important?

And everybody that's listening is going to have a different idea about that. And people that are on the other side of the IP table are going to sway you and want you to work on things. And that's the hard part about being a public school employee is that you can urge advocate, share research, but ultimately it's a team decision. So that can be hard. So that's why I got into writing those goals like that, to demonstrate that progress of like, wow, the student number one is staying in the group for 25 minutes. Look, they never used to do that. Number two.

We've done all these modified leisure activities, which I have a lot of free video models on my YouTube, ABA speech, so modified UNO, modified Scrabble, all those different modified Connect4, all those different games that you can then, when you report on progress, be really specific with those activities and how many times the student is participating.

Marisha (18:23)

Yeah, I love that. And that it gives that flexibility for the student to participate in ways that feel authentic to them versus like, you must comment or you must ask this many questions. It's like, what if they don't have it?

Rose (18:33)

Yes.

I know. And I just hate contriving those really awkward and strange social situations. And those are sometimes I just have always worked in really affluent districts. So there's always lawyers involved and advocates. And sometimes you just, you know, get in these heated discussions about goals and, you know, where you talk for hours about one goal and their objectives. But I mean, sometimes it's hard because when you're school based, you can't always say, I don't want to do that. I don't believe in that goal that takes away from the students in the event as well.

and promotes masking. But you can definitely try to be professional and try to advocate for evidence -based practice.

Marisha (19:17)

Yeah, and I'm sure there are ways to kind of compromise along with that too.

Rose (19:23)

Yeah, I have your director present. Yeah, I think those are important.

Marisha (19:25)

Okay, awesome. And then should we do one more example?

Rose (19:33)

Sure, yeah.

Marisha (19:34)

to do a functional worm.

Rose (19:37)

Yeah, functional communication. You know, for functional communication, middle school, high school, it might be asking for help with the task. So I had students who were more in general classes, maybe supported, where I would go into, they have a study period and I would, in the session, we would work on saying like, I need help with this. And then I would go into their supported kind of study hall to see if they would ask the teacher for help because they needed help on an assignment. And so that was nice.

Or students who are using an AAC device, who are maybe completing a vocational task at a work setting and they don't understand how to do it, or maybe they need more work. These are things that we look at in vocational situations. And so seeing if a student could use those different phrases, how can we teach them in the session? But then also, I think our service delivery too for middle school, high school students, if you can, with your caseload, I know there's always environmental barriers, but.

That's why I really love being a high school therapist because I would go out to the local hospital and see the student working at the snack bar. I would go out to the supported floor at the Cleveland Clinic and see the students doing corporate work. And I really love seeing my clients in those real world situations. Because then when we would go to the meetings and we would talk with all the adult service providers, the meetings get very, very large when the students get older.

I had real world information to share about how the student was doing. And so that service delivery piece might look different too. You know, I had some students I would see twice a week. I had some students I would see quarterly at their job setting just to still be that communication support on the team. It really varied.

Marisha (21:16)

That's amazing. This makes me want to go work in a high school. Yeah, I've always loved that because it's so functional and real, like you're preparing them for where and I mean, like when we're working with school or like elementary students, we're still working on very functional skills that will allow them to participate in the classroom and with their peers. But there's just something really cool about.

Rose (21:19)

It's fine.

Marisha (21:44)

like preparing for a job and I love that. So this was so fun getting to chat. I always leave our conversations feeling really inspired. Do you have any last kind of tips or anything that you wanted to share that we didn't get to yet?

Rose (21:47)

Yeah.

Yeah, I would just say if you're transitioning to middle school and high school, I think it's really important to just try to build rapport with each teacher and try to build rapport with each student, potentially observe them first. I think that's really important. I always just put that as a data point on my data sheet that I've observed them because it's all about that ongoing communication. And I did work in a district where I had a really reasonable caseload, which I was always really lucky to have that. But I always did try to email each parent.

even though that about did me in, but I thought it was important because just the nature of where I worked parents were hyper involved. And I wanted to make sure that I was a source of support to say, hey, if you're not happy with something, if you are happy with something, if you have a question or if you just want to say hi, let me know. And I always tried to do that at the very start of the school year because when we work with humans, there's always going to be some problem that comes up. And so if you in the beginning of the school year, just reach out and extend that olive branch.

that is going to be very, very important and show that you're there to support the students.

Marisha (23:06)

Yeah, I totally agree. Well, this was so incredibly helpful. And I'll in the show notes, which will be linked to the episode. I'll share Rosa's Instagram, I'll share her course, like her membership, which includes lots of really epic courses that will go into even more detail, as well as some other resources that we mentioned during this episode.

and then yeah I think that's a wrap.

Rose (23:39)

Well, thanks for having me.

Marisha (23:41)

Thanks for joining us, Rose, and I hope everyone has a fabulous rest of their day.

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Gestalt Language Processing Goals

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Welcome to another episode of the SLP Now podcast! We’re continuing the series where we do a deep dive on all things GOALS, and I’m bringing some of the best in our field to join me and share their expertise.

Today, Katja Piscitelli discusses how to navigate goals for Gestalt language processors!

Takeaways from This Episode

  • Understanding the stages of natural language acquisition is crucial for writing goals that align with the child’s development.
  • Goals for Gestalt language processors should focus on spontaneous and self-generated language.
  • Resources such as Marge Blanc’s book, Meaningful Speech course, and the Communication Development Center website are valuable for learning more about natural language acquisition.
  • Each stage of natural language acquisition has specific goals, such as increasing the amount and variety of gestalts in stage one, mixing and matching gestalts in stage two, and introducing verbs and complex grammar in stage four.


Links and Additional Resources

  • Katja’s Instagram
  • Katja’s Website
  • SLPNow Gestalt Language Processing: 2025 Ultimate Guide

At SLP Now, we are hard workers… but we also like to work smarter.

That means we’re constantly improving our materials, therapy planning resources, and the ways we support SLPs like YOU — so you can skip the hard work part and just work smarter. 👇

Inside the SLP Now membership, you’ll find 400+ therapy plans and an organized library of 6,000+ (and counting!) evidence-backed speech therapy materials to help you differentiate your therapy in a matter of minutes.

How is that possible, you ask?

Because we analyzed all the books, identified the targets, and created unit plan pages that suggest activities based on the skills you’re targeting and your students’ needs. This is the one stop shop for all your literacy-based therapy needs, including resources for virtual field trips and visuals to help those concepts stick.

We’ve talked about so many activity options during this series… but there are even more literacy-based ideas and evidence-based resources waiting for you on the other side of SLP Now. 🤗

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Sign up for a risk-free two week trial → We won’t even ask for your credit card!

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Marisha Mets (00:00)

So hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. We have Katya Piscitelli with us today and she is going to help break down how we can start navigating goals for our Gestalt language processors. And before we do that, just a really quick intro to Katya. She works in Sacramento, California. She has an incredible

private practice called total spectrum speech. And she specializes in working with autistic clients and she uses the natural language acquisition framework. She's also presented in several different locations and has just become a really well, sought after resource for speech language pathologists. So I'm excited to have her here today. So welcome Katya.

Thanks, thanks for having me. I'm excited to chat. Yeah, me too. And so I gave a little bit of an intro, but I feel like it doesn't do you any justice. So I'm curious to hear just a little bit about your story. So how did you end up learning so much about natural language acquisition and just kind of a little bit of how you got to where you are? Yeah, I mean, I'm learning right along with you all, but

In 2020, I stumbled upon it. I was not taught about Gestalt language or natural language acquisition in school as most of us weren't. But right out of my ACF in 2020, I found it. Meaningful Speech started posting on Instagram and I happened to find her account in the very early days and

I always knew I wanted to support autistic students, but I felt like I was just spinning my wheels, not really getting anywhere. And it never felt quite intuitive the way I was taught. It always felt a bit icky and I never really knew why. in finding learning about Gushelt language processors and NLA and just child led therapy in general, it was...

everything that I had been missing. So I really dove into it and started making it my specialty. in, gosh, I think 2022, I started seeing private clients and focused only on supporting Gestalt processors. So I've been supporting solely GLPs for about three years now.

And yeah, I've really dove in and learned as much as I could, but yeah, definitely still learning every day and every client is so different as we all know. Yeah, what a great story. Thank you for sharing that. so I get a lot of questions about, okay, so how do I write goals for this or this or this? And I think natural language acquisition and all of that brings up even more of those questions.

And it's obviously a really tiny part of the puzzle. And we want to make sure that we're doing like a high quality assessment before we write those goals and that we're implementing evidence -backed strategies and all of that. And we don't have the time to dive into all of that to fully do the topic justice. So I'm curious if you have any favorite resources to help SLPs who are just wanting to learn more about the basics.

Yeah, when I got started learning about Gestalt, the only resources that we really had were Marge Blanc's book, Natural Language Acquisition on the Autism Spectrum, which is still the most amazing resource because it's all of this 15 years of longitudinal studies on Gestalt processors in one book and lots of amazing case studies. But we really just had that and Marge Blanc's courses on

Northern Speech Services, but now we have so many resources. So whether you're trying to invest in a course or just get some free information, there's a ton out there. And I have a lot of it pinned in my feed on Instagram under free resources, but my favorite

Courses are still Marge Blanc's courses as well as the Meaningful Speech course. And then there's a group called Natural Communication and they have a free introductory course to the natural language acquisition stages. They have some paid shorter courses as well. And then my favorite resource for parents and teachers and speech therapists is

CommunicationDevelopmentCenter .com, which is Marge's website. It goes really in depth into each of the natural language acquisition stages, has examples of therapy, lots of research and just resources linked there, so all for free. So it's a great, great place to start. That's awesome. So many resources. I was...

Your Instagram account has so many resources, like you said. So in the show notes, I'll add a link to your profile and some of my favorite posts, if that's okay. And then I'll also include some of the resources that you mentioned, including Marge Blanc's book, the meaningful speech course, and then some of Marge Blanc's courses as well, and Marge's website. So lots and lots of resources to help us get started.

And then, natural language acquisition and all of that is still potentially, because you graduated in 2020 and you didn't learn about it in grad school. So the vast majority of SLPs probably didn't have that in their training. And those of us who know about it have learned about it kind of after the fact. But can you give us like a brief description of what it is and kind of

just to make sure we're on the same starting point. Yeah. So Gestalt language processors, there's two ways to process language, analytic and Gestalt. Hopefully we, if you're looking for goals that align with these kids, hopefully you're at least understanding that difference a bit, but natural language acquisition or the stages that these kids naturally move through to go from.

delayed echolalia all the way to self -generated grammar. So there's four main stages with two extra stages, which is basically just more and more complex grammar in those two extra stages. But yeah, March Blanc noticed that most autistic kids that she was supporting with language were moving through these stages naturally, or this same sort of sequence naturally. They were going from delayed echolalia, stage one to

mitigating or mixing and matching these chunks of language in stage two. Then they started piecing out single words in stage three and then in stage four putting those single words together like all kids hopefully do to create grammar. So she just noticed that happening and put a name to it. And natural language acquisition is that name to describe that process that happens. So we can do therapy and goals that are supportive of moving kids.

through that process. Yeah. And I think maybe this is obvious, but can we chat a little bit about, so, because I think our first step is determining what kind of language processors our students are. But is there, I guess, like from your perspective, could it do harm or is it like potentially not best practice if we're writing goals for,

like traditional goals when the student might benefit from more of the natural language approach. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I definitely see quite a few kids that have obviously had a more analytic style approach. So maybe they would have done better with learning gestalts or these larger chunks of language, but they were really

taught and drilled single words because we assumed that they were learning the way many kids do, which is at the single word level to begin. And then they get kind of stuck in that place. So yeah, it can definitely slow progress or cause kids to get a bit stuck. Some kids will do fine with whatever input you give them, but typically kids who are really needing some language support, it's going to be much more supportive if we're

teaching them in the way that they are truly processing. Yeah, that makes sense. So then what are some important considerations when we are writing goals for those students? Yeah. So you really have to understand the stages and to really get comfortable writing these goals.

In terms of generally supporting Gestalt processors, I'm always looking to have the same sort of criteria in goals. Like it should be spontaneous and self -generated, not prompted. So typically I start the goal with child will spontaneously and

without prompting produce whatever the goal is because that's one of the biggest things we're looking for when supporting push -dot processors and movement through the stages is that the language they're producing is spontaneous. It's not something that we're prompting with a question or giving a direct model. And what else? What other criteria do I look for?

I think that's the biggest thing. Yeah. And then we can talk about what those goals look like, but I'll let you lead that. Yeah, that would be great. the first thing is that when we're writing these goals, we're thinking about writing them for what the student will spontaneously produce without prompting. then your next...

I assume the next step then would be to look at kind of what stage they're in and write goals according to that. Yeah.

Yeah, so generally our assessment is really looking at the language sample and figuring out which stage they're falling into most of the time. Because typically these kids are a bit all over the place and they might be 80 % in stage one, but a little bit in stage two and a tiny bit in stage three. And that's super typical, but we want to write goals and support them in the place they are the most and then try to move them to.

the next closest stage. Yeah. then, so, cause let's say that, cause when you're doing the assessment, you are looking at the utterances and you kind of like classify the utterances. let's say they're at like 20 % stage one, 60 % stage two, and then what? 20 % stage three.

So would you write some goals? Would you write most of your goals in stage? Cause they're pretty much doing stage two already. So your goals would probably be more stage three, right? And I know it's so hard to say with like this is you would be looking at the whole child and not just like those three pieces of data. But is that how you would think about it?

Yeah, so you said that there are 80 % stage one, 20 % stage two, 20 % stage three. 20 % of utterances are like at stage one. Okay, got it. 60 % stage two. So it adds up to 100, but. Okay, I flopped those. Yeah. So yes, when we're looking at goals, we're typically looking for them to be 50 % in the

earlier stage before we move to the next. So if they're in 60 % stage two, they've hit that 50 % criteria of stage two, so they're likely ready to start moving to stage three. that shows in the example you gave because they're in stage three 20 % of the time. typically what we hope to see is once a child is at 50 % stage two, give or take, they're going to start naturally moving to.

stage three. When it comes to moving to the next stage in any of the stages, it's not our choice to move them there. We really have to follow them there once they go there naturally. Yeah, so if a child was meeting that criteria, it looks like they would probably be ready for stage three. But I'm often kind of, I'm often writing goals for a couple stages at once. Sometimes they are,

showing readiness for the next stage and moving there, but there's still some things we need to fill in in the previous stage. For example, if they're in stage one, 70 % of the time in stage three, 30 % of the time, they're showing that they're ready, or sorry, stage two. If they're in stage one, most of the time in stage two, 30 % of the time, they're showing readiness that they can move to stage two and start mitigating.

So we can help them there. We can write a goal that they're gonna get to 50 % stage two and help them to mitigate more. But then we also wanna make sure that they're hitting all the criteria in stage one. And the things we're looking for in stage one are really amount and variety of gestalts. The amount is really dependent on the child, how many gestalts we're really looking for. So there's no set number, but we want them to have quite a few.

and we want them to have variety and that is often the biggest piece I'm looking at. So if a kid's moving to stage two, I might follow them there and write goals there, but also maybe they're missing some variety in stage one and I'm gonna give them gestalts for that as well. So maybe they are producing lots of mitigations, they're ready for stage two, but they're not producing protests and protesting gestalts. I might also be filling those in.

giving them more protesting gestalts as I'm also helping them to mix and match. So sometimes it's a little, it's a bit in both stages, wherever stages they're in and you're kind of making sure they're filling in the missing pieces before fully moving on. Yeah. Yeah, that does make sense. like if we, with this hypothetical kiddo that we've been talking about, so if like, let's go with the kiddo who's 70,

percent stage one and 30 % stage two, because I think that's easier to wrap our heads around than the numbers I gave. So we could write a goal where the child will spontaneously without producing or without prompting produce. And I guess this would be given a language sample, da -da -da -da. They'll produce 50 % of stage two utterances. Is that something that would like?

potentially be a goal? Yeah. then you said, actually, did you have something to add? No, go ahead. OK. But we're still working on the stage one because even if they're at 70%, there's still room for growth there. And we get to use our clinical judgment to decide which areas the student would benefit from. And you had given an example of protesting castles.

we could write a goal that the student will spontaneously without prompting produce like whatever type of stouts that we want them to produce. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe five new protesting phrases in that example. So when it comes to goals in each stage and stage one are my goals are usually focused on amount or variety of gestalt. So it might just be if they're, if they're picking up

our models rather slowly, I might just make a goal for amounts like this child's gonna produce 10 new Gestalt and it can be any Gestalt that they might pick up on and that's our overall goal because even 10 new phrases would be awesome. Or I look at communicative functions or variety. So maybe I'm just hoping to increase general variety. So child will produce more variety of

utterances to include communicative functions like commenting, protesting, suggesting, whatever, whatever communicative functions you think are maybe lacking. Or I might just focus on one specific communicative function that's missing, but that's usually what stage one looks like is either more gestalts or specific kind of gestalts that they might be missing. Yeah, that makes sense.

And then, so I feel like we've got some good ideas just for the general stages. And then we talked a little bit about stage two. Is there, could we go over just like some quick things that we might, like more specific goals that we might look at for stage two and three and maybe four? Yeah. Okay, cool. So.

Like I said, our overarching goal on stage one is more Gestalt and greater variety. And the idea is once they have that, once they have a lot of Gestalt and a big variety of Gestalt, they're gonna naturally move to stage two. And then our overall goal is that they're just going to mitigate, they're gonna mix and match these Gestalt more, they're gonna break them down. So generally stage two goals just look like a percentage that they'll be in stage two. if they're,

only in stage two, 10 % of the time, maybe I'm gonna try to move them to using stage three 30 % of the time. And that 50 % threshold is kind of the, where we're trying to get them because we assume once they're there, they're gonna naturally start to move to stage three. Not every kid is gonna start moving to stage three the second they're in 50 % stage two, but that is the overarching goal of stage two. So it just kind of generally.

looks like that, just a greater amount of mixing and matching. And then once you have that, they'll naturally move to stage three and stage three looks very different. It looks like pulling out single words and then making two and three word combinations. So in stage three, we're looking for three different types of words, nouns, descriptive words, and locative words.

And then we're looking for two or three word combos, including those, all of those. So your goals might just be around percentage again, like the child's going to be in stage three, 50 % of the time. Or you could look at some of those words or word combos specifically, like maybe child will produce noun plus noun combinations.

or they'll produce noun plus descriptor combinations, or they'll produce more isolated descriptor words. We really start with the isolated words and then move into the word combinations. So you could look at any piece of those noun locative words or descriptive words that they might not be using as often as the other pieces and really try to focus on those. Yeah. And then once they are...

doing that readily, they're there about 50 % of the time and they're using all of those different combinations, noun plus noun, noun plus descriptor and noun plus locative word. And they're moving into three word combinations. Then they're gonna start, hopefully, naturally moving to stage four and adding in verbs. And then our goals start to look more like typical grammar goals. So whatever.

grammar piece they're missing, starting with really basic grammar. So we're starting with, just as we would with any toddler, kind of toddler -like, really basic level grammar, three word combinations, maybe noun plus verb. And then from there, it gets more and more complex. ING verbs, past tense, and so on, until they're producing clauses and...

really complex grammar. So stage four goals look very different depending on where they are in that grammar acquisition.

journey, but yeah. That sounds great. That's a really helpful overview. think, cause I took some courses when I started learning about this too. And I think this will be just, I don't know. I wanted like a quick easy way to kind of wrap my head around, okay, what would this actually look like? So I think this will be really, really helpful in just like,

Okay, give me a quick, quick overview and then I'll dive into more detail. But I feel like this is a really nice framework and just starting to think about what it could look like. So thank you for breaking this down so nicely. Yeah, I'm glad. I think it's really helpful to understand kind of how each stage flows into the other to really frame our goals. If we know that once we hit the certain criteria and in each stage, it'll naturally

the child will naturally move to the next. It can help us understand why we're even writing that goal. So yeah, I hope it was helpful. Yeah. Yeah. And in the show notes, I'll have like a little recap of this as well so that if you are listening, hopefully you'll have like a good, easy reference to look back at too. And yeah, is there anything else that you wanted to share while we're chatting?

no, I'll just kind of refer again to communication development center. If you're wanting more info on the stages and supporting each one and they have, when we're supporting stage four, there's some grammar sheets that we follow that are created by Laura Lee. They were norms for analytic processors. So not really with Gestalt in mind, but we can use them to support.

the grammar development once you're in stage four. So if you're wanting those charts, you might hear them mentioned on Instagram or wherever the DSS and the DST, those are linked at that website as well for free. So yeah, it's a good place to go if you're wanting more resources, more info about grammar or any of the, any related info. Yeah, this is awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah.

And then like I said, I'll link to your Instagram and everything in the show notes so people can follow you and see all of your awesome content. And yeah, thank you for being so generous with your time. This was great. Yeah, thanks for having me. It was fun.

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