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Special Education IEP Compliance: A Guide for District Administrators

February 4, 2025 by Marisha Leave a Comment

Ensuring IEP compliance isn’t just about ticking boxes—it’s about empowering students with disabilities to reach their full potential while safeguarding schools against legal and educational setbacks. 

For district administrators, navigating the complexities of Individualized Education Programs (IEPs) requires more than just familiarity with the law; it demands strategic leadership, robust staff training, and a culture of collaboration.

In this guide, special education expert David Bateman shares actionable insights drawn from 10 years of experience as a due process hearing officer and educator. From addressing critical challenges like poor progress monitoring and vague goal-setting to leveraging free training resources like IRIS modules, you’ll find practical strategies to strengthen your district’s approach to IEP compliance.

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Whether you’re fine-tuning your existing systems or building a compliance strategy from the ground up, this guide serves as your roadmap to creating meaningful, legally sound, and student-focused IEPs.

Let’s dive in and explore how district administrators can lead the way in IEP compliance excellence—one training session, one meeting, and one well-crafted goal at a time.

Understanding IEP Compliance in Special Education

What is IEP Compliance and Why Is It Important?

At its core, IEP compliance ensures that students with disabilities receive the tailored support and services they are legally entitled to under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). An IEP is not just a document—it’s a binding legal agreement between schools and families, outlining specific goals, accommodations, and services designed to meet each student’s unique needs.

“The IEP is one of the main legal documents used to determine whether we’re fulfilling the “contract” we have with the parents of kids eligible for special education. These kids are a protected class.. So this doesn’t exist for other kids.”  

– David Bateman

Compliance goes beyond merely following regulations; it ensures that students are set up for meaningful academic and social progress. When implemented correctly, IEPs empower educators to provide consistent, high-quality support while protecting districts from costly legal disputes and administrative challenges.

Consequences of an Out-of-Compliance IEP

When an IEP falls out of compliance, the consequences can ripple across multiple fronts:

  • For Students: Delayed progress, unmet academic goals, and frustration in the learning process.
  • For Educators: Increased stress, unclear responsibilities, and diminished classroom effectiveness.
  • For Schools: Legal disputes, financial penalties, and damage to their reputation.

Non-compliance isn’t always intentional. It often stems from insufficient staff training, vague or unrealistic goals, or poor progress monitoring practices. However, regardless of the reason, schools are still held accountable for any failures to meet IEP requirements.

Common IEP Violations in Schools

Understanding the most frequent violations of IEP compliance is essential for administrators to address them effectively. These violations represent failures to meet the legal obligations outlined under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA):

  1. Failure to Implement the IEP as Written: If services, accommodations, or supports listed in the IEP are not delivered, it constitutes a direct violation.
  2. Improper Team Composition: Legally required team members (e.g., general education teacher, special education teacher, district representative, and parents) must be present during IEP meetings. Substituting these roles without appropriate qualifications can result in non-compliance.
  3. Failure to Involve Parents in the Decision-Making Process: Parents have a legal right to actively participate in the IEP process. Excluding them or failing to consider their input violates IDEA.
  4. Missed Deadlines or Timelines: IEPs must be reviewed and updated annually, and services must begin within a specified timeframe. Missing these deadlines is a violation.
  5. Lack of Progress Monitoring and Reporting: Schools are required to track and report progress toward IEP goals regularly. Failure to do so constitutes non-compliance.

These violations often stem from underlying challenges like poor training, insufficient resources, or lack of accountability. Addressing these root causes is crucial for both preventing violations and improving the overall quality of IEP implementation.

Key Challenges in Maintaining IEP Compliance

Biggest Issues with IEP Compliance

IEP compliance is often derailed by a series of recurring challenges that impact both the quality of the plans and their implementation. According to David Bateman, the most pressing issues include:

  • Vague or Ambiguous Goals: Goals that lack specificity make it difficult to measure progress or ensure accountability.
  • Lack of Baseline Data: Without clear starting points, it’s impossible to determine whether a student is progressing.
  • Inadequate Progress Monitoring: Teachers often fail to collect sufficient data to inform decision-making or adjust strategies.
  • Improper Team Composition: Meetings sometimes include educators unfamiliar with the student instead of key staff who can provide valuable input.
  • Limited Parental Involvement: Parents are sometimes overlooked, missing out on crucial insights about their child’s needs.

“In my decade as a due process hearing officer I worked with a lot of districts and I saw a lot of problems with how IEPs were being implemented.. We have to think about what we can do to be of assistance to help our teachers as a part of this process.”

– David Bateman

Understanding these challenges is the first step in creating a culture of accountability and continuous improvement in IEP implementation.

Addressing Staff Training Gaps

One of the most effective ways to tackle compliance issues is through comprehensive staff training. Educators need consistent professional development to understand their legal obligations and practical responsibilities in creating and executing IEPs.

David Bateman strongly advocates for leveraging free training resources like the IRIS modules, which are designed to equip both teachers and administrators with the knowledge they need to excel in IEP compliance. Training sessions should not only cover the basics of writing and implementing IEPs but also address district-specific procedures and protocols.

  • IEPs: Developing High-Quality Individualized Education Programs
  • IEPs: How Administrators Can Support the Development and Implementation of High-Quality IEPs  

The Role of Team Composition in IEP Implementation

An effective IEP meeting starts with the right people at the table. Every team member should be well-acquainted with the student and actively participate in shaping the IEP. Pulling in an available staff member who doesn’t have direct knowledge of the student might technically meet legal requirements, but it fails to serve the spirit of IDEA.

“We often pull the teacher who is free that period, not the teacher who knows what the kid looks like. It meets the letter of the law, but I don’t think it meets the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law would be to have the teacher who’s free go cover the class of the teacher who knows what the kid looks like..”

– David Bateman

Administrators can enhance team composition by ensuring:

  • Core team members (e.g., general education teacher, special education teacher, service providers) are always present.
  • Staff members receive guidance on their specific roles during IEP meetings.
  • Substitute teachers or floaters are used to cover classes, allowing key staff to attend meetings.

Involving Parents in the IEP Process

Parents are not just participants in the IEP process—they are essential team members. When parents feel valued and heard, the IEP is more likely to address the student’s needs effectively. David Bateman suggests starting every meeting with a simple but powerful question:
“Tell us about your child.”

This sets a collaborative tone and reminds everyone that the meeting is about a student—not just compliance paperwork.

Administrators can encourage parental involvement by:

  • Providing clear and jargon-free communication.
  • Offering flexible meeting times to accommodate working parents.
  • Actively seeking and incorporating parental input into the IEP

Make sure to check our our full interview with IEP expert Ashley Barlow on district best practices for involving parents in the IEP process.

Legal Consequences of IEP Non-Compliance

What Happens if an IEP is Out of Compliance?

Failing to meet IEP compliance standards carries significant legal and educational risks for school districts. Under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), schools are legally obligated to deliver the services and accommodations outlined in a student’s IEP.

When schools fail to implement IEPs properly, the consequences can include:

  • Due Process Hearings: Parents can file complaints, leading to formal hearings where schools must defend their actions.
  • Financial Penalties: Districts may be required to fund compensatory education services or reimburse parents for private school placements.
  • Increased Litigation Risks: Legal battles drain resources, time, and focus away from students’ needs.
  • Reputational Damage: Non-compliance can harm a district’s credibility and trust with parents and the community.

While non-compliance often stems from systemic challenges rather than willful neglect, the law makes no distinction—failure to comply with an IEP is a legal violation.

“I’ve been involved in over 1,000 due process hearings. A lot of them were related to when the district knew or should have known that the child was having problems. If you knew the child was having problems, and you did not work to address that child’s needs, that child suffered. And we need to provide appropriate services, change something.”

– David Bateman

Legal Remedies for IEP Violations

Parents and guardians have several legal options when a school district fails to comply with an IEP:

  1. State Complaints: Parents can file a formal complaint with their state’s education agency.
  2. Mediation: Both parties may agree to work with a neutral mediator to resolve disputes.
  3. Due Process Hearings: A formal legal proceeding where an impartial hearing officer determines whether the school has met its obligations.
  4. Compensatory Education Services: Schools may be required to provide additional services to make up for missed opportunities.
  5. Reimbursement for Private School Placements: If a school fails to meet a student’s needs, districts may be responsible for tuition at a private school.

Understanding these legal remedies emphasizes the importance of preventing non-compliance before it escalates into costly disputes.

Filing an IEP Non-Compliance Letter

When parents notice potential non-compliance, they have the right to address their concerns formally. An IEP non-compliance letter serves as written documentation of specific violations, ensuring clear communication and a paper trail.

Administrators can help reduce such letters by:

  • Prioritizing Clear Communication: Keeping parents informed about their child’s progress and any challenges in implementation.
  • Responding Promptly to Concerns: Addressing parental concerns proactively before they escalate.
  • Ensuring Transparency: Documenting and sharing progress monitoring data with parents regularly.

A proactive and collaborative approach can prevent many compliance issues from reaching the formal complaint stage.

Strategies for Ensuring IEP Compliance in Schools

The Importance of Staff Training for IEP Compliance

Staff training is one of the most effective tools for improving IEP compliance. Teachers, administrators, and service providers need ongoing professional development to stay informed about legal requirements and best practices.

Coming into a new position, there’s a steep learning curve of the written rules, but also the unwritten rules. That’s why I like to have the district special education director have all the teachers and SLP’s and other related services providers do the free [IRIS] module for teachers.

– David Bateman

David Bateman emphasizes leveraging free resources like the IRIS modules, which are specifically designed to address IEP compliance for both educators and administrators. Effective training programs should include:

  • Initial Onboarding Training: New staff should complete foundational training modules.
  • District-Specific Policies: Follow up with district-specific protocols to address local procedures.
  • Regular Refresher Sessions: Provide periodic training updates to address recurring challenges.
  • Open Q&A Sessions: Encourage staff to ask anonymous questions for clarity and confidence.

Training isn’t a one-time event—it’s an ongoing commitment to compliance and quality.

Progress Monitoring for Effective Compliance

Progress monitoring is not just a checkbox—it’s a legal requirement and an essential tool for measuring student outcomes. Teachers must regularly collect and analyze data to ensure students are meeting their IEP goals.

“In a typical nine-week marking period, we should have five to six data points that we can graph as part of [tracking a student’s progress]. And if we can’t graph it, it’s not good data. And so we need to graph this data and then use that information for something. Because if you find out that the kid is not making progress through what you’re doing, you need to change something.”

– David Bateman

Key strategies for effective progress monitoring include:

  • Consistent Data Collection: Aim for at least 5–6 graphable data points per grading period.
  • Use of Technology Tools: Implement digital tools to streamline data tracking and ensure accessibility.
  • Data-Driven Decisions: Use collected data to inform adjustments to teaching strategies and IEP goals.
  • Transparent Reporting: Regularly share progress data with parents and team members.

When done well, progress monitoring reduces litigation risks and improves student outcomes.

Implementing SMART Goals

IEP goals must be Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-Bound (SMART). Vague or overly ambitious goals make it impossible to track progress effectively.

To write strong SMART goals:

  • Start with clear baseline data to define the student’s current performance level.
  • Set realistic and meaningful targets that align with the student’s needs.
  • Use clear and measurable language to define success.
  • Regularly review and adjust goals based on progress monitoring data.

Well-crafted SMART goals create clarity for educators, parents, and students, ensuring everyone is aligned on expectations.

The Role of District Administrators in IEP Compliance

Responsibilities of Special Education Administrators

District administrators play a pivotal role in ensuring IEP compliance across their schools. Their responsibilities extend beyond oversight—they must lead by example, set clear expectations, and provide ongoing support to educators and service providers.

Key responsibilities include:

  • Ensuring Adequate Training: Provide initial and ongoing professional development opportunities, utilizing resources like IRIS modules.
  • Monitoring Compliance: Regularly review IEPs for accuracy, alignment, and implementation fidelity.
  • Resource Allocation: Ensure teachers and staff have the tools, time, and support needed to create and implement effective IEPs.
  • Accountability Structures: Establish systems for reporting and addressing compliance concerns.
  • Parent Communication: Build transparent communication channels to involve parents meaningfully in the IEP process.

“Special education directors should be able to handle questions and concerns about IEP compliance from teachers and staff.”

– David Bateman

Administrators must strike a balance between support and accountability, creating an environment where compliance is both achievable and sustainable.

Building a Culture of IEP Compliance

IEP compliance isn’t just a checklist—it’s a cultural commitment to meeting the unique needs of every student with a disability. Administrators must foster a culture where:

  • Staff feel supported and empowered to ask questions and seek help.
  • Collaboration between general and special education teams is prioritized.
  • Successes in IEP implementation are celebrated and recognized.
  • Compliance is viewed not just as a legal requirement but as a moral responsibility.

When compliance becomes part of the district’s culture, it shifts from being reactive to proactive and preventative.

Compliance Monitoring Frameworks

A structured compliance monitoring framework helps administrators track progress, identify challenges, and address issues before they escalate.

Key elements of an effective framework include:

  • Regular Audits: Conduct periodic reviews of IEP documents and implementation practices.
  • Checklists and Tools: Utilize standardized IEP compliance checklists to streamline oversight.
  • Feedback Loops: Create processes for teachers and staff to share concerns or request guidance.
  • Data-Driven Reviews: Use progress monitoring data to assess compliance at both individual and district levels.

When administrators adopt a strategic and data-informed approach, IEP compliance becomes a sustainable and measurable goal.

Legal and Ethical Considerations On IEP Compliance

Understanding Legal Obligations

IEP compliance isn’t just a professional expectation—it’s a legal mandate under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). Schools and administrators are legally required to ensure that IEPs are not only well-written but also faithfully implemented.

Key legal obligations include:

  • Providing Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE): Every student with a disability must receive services that allow them to make meaningful progress.
  • Adhering to Timelines: Initial IEPs, annual reviews, and progress reports must meet strict deadlines.
  • Ensuring Procedural Safeguards: Parents must be informed of their rights and actively involved in the IEP process.

Failure to meet these obligations can lead to due process hearings, state complaints, or litigation, consuming valuable time and resources.

IEP Litigation Trends

Legal challenges related to IEP compliance are on the rise, often focusing on:

  • Inadequate Progress Monitoring: Schools failing to collect or act on data showing a lack of student progress.
  • Failure to Implement Services: Services listed in the IEP not being delivered as promised.
  • Parental Exclusion: Parents being left out of critical decision-making discussions.

Many of these disputes can be avoided through clear communication, proactive problem-solving, and consistent documentation practices.

Preventing IEP Non Compliance

The best way to address legal and ethical risks is to prevent non-compliance issues before they escalate. Districts can achieve this by:

  • Conducting regular audits of IEPs and implementation practices.
  • Providing ongoing training for staff and administrators.
  • Creating feedback loops where concerns can be raised and addressed promptly.
  • Encouraging collaboration and transparency with parents and team members.

Compliance isn’t just about avoiding lawsuits—it’s about ensuring that every student receives the support and resources they deserve.

“The law looks at when you knew or should have known that a child was having problems. And it’s better for us to look at when the child is having problems and articulate and change what’s going on about that instead of just having the kids continue to suffer.”

– David Bateman

IEP Compliance FAQ

1. What does IEP compliance mean?

IEP compliance refers to meeting the legal requirements set forth by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). This includes creating, implementing, and monitoring an Individualized Education Program (IEP) tailored to meet a student’s unique needs, ensuring they receive a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE).

2. What happens when an IEP is out of compliance?

When an IEP is out of compliance, schools may face:

  • Legal consequences such as due process hearings or financial penalties.
  • Educational setbacks for students who miss critical services.
  • Reputational damage impacting trust with parents and the community.

3. What is needed for an IEP to be a legally compliant document?

A legally compliant IEP must:

  • Be developed collaboratively by a qualified IEP team, including parents.
  • Include specific, measurable, and achievable goals.
  • Provide clear documentation of services and supports tailored to the student’s needs.
  • Ensure regular progress monitoring and reporting.
  • Follow state and federal deadlines and guidelines.

4. What happens if a teacher ignores an IEP?

If a teacher fails to follow an IEP:

  • The district could face legal action from parents.
  • The student’s academic and social progress may suffer.
  • The school might be required to provide compensatory services to make up for missed supports.

5. How can districts prevent IEP non-compliance?

Districts can reduce non-compliance by:

  • Providing regular staff training using resources like IRIS modules.
  • Ensuring consistent progress monitoring with graph-able data points.
  • Maintaining transparent communication with parents.
  • Establishing a culture of accountability and collaboration.

Special Education IEP Compliance Resources:

  • IRIS modules
    • IEPs: Developing High-Quality Individualized Education Programs
    • IEPs: How Administrators Can Support the Development and Implementation of High-Quality IEPs
  • David Bateman’s Website
  • SLP Now Podcast: 2025 Issues and Best Practices in Special Education
  • SLP Now Podcast: A District Admin’s Guide to Navigating IEP Meetings with Parents

Conclusion

Ensuring IEP compliance isn’t just about meeting legal requirements—it’s about delivering on a promise to provide every student with disabilities the opportunity to succeed. Through effective staff training, robust progress monitoring, clear SMART goals, and strong administrative leadership, districts can build a culture where compliance isn’t viewed as a burden, but as an essential component of quality education.

As David Bateman emphasized throughout this guide, compliance starts with understanding the legal and ethical responsibilities tied to IEPs and is sustained through ongoing mentorship, collaboration, and proactive problem-solving.

When administrators, educators, and parents work together with a shared commitment to student success, IEP compliance becomes less about avoiding litigation and more about fulfilling a moral and educational responsibility.

Let this guide serve as both a resource and a call to action—to prioritize training, foster collaboration, and consistently monitor progress, ensuring that every IEP is not just compliant, but impactful.


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Marisha (00:01)

Hello there and welcome back to the special ed leaders podcast. I'm especially excited because we have our first returning guest today, David Bateman. he helped us kick off the podcast with our very first episode. and it was such a great conversation. we decided to have him come back and he agreed to help us chat more about IEPs and IEP compliance.

and so I, we already did your intro and everything in the previous episode. So I think we're good to dive right in. and my first question is, because you, you literally wrote the book on IEP compliance. it's called Developing Educationally Meaningful and Legally Sound IEPs and you are a coauthor. So you had, some collaborators with on that book. but I'm just curious what led you to.

David Bateman (00:47)

Thank

Marisha (00:52)

like specialize or write a whole book on this and kind of share a little bit of your story around the path towards that.

David Bateman (01:00)

Okay. several things, and I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you about this. This is great fun. But, and I didn't, I'm not sure how much I highlighted this in the previous podcast is that I was a due process hearing officer for a decade. And I saw a lot of problems with IEPs because the IEP is one of the main documents that's used at a due process hearing to determine are we fulfilling the lack

for lack of a better term, the contract that we have with the parents regarding the child. And it poses a significant problem with this. So I did that. was a due process here in office for a decade and since worked with a number of school districts about this. I just, I saw a lot of problems with how IEPs were being implemented. I saw a lot of problems with how IEPs were being addressed.

So I wanted to make sure that when Mitch, Jim and I worked on this book is that we addressed, we took what we knew about this to address the practical needs of this because every child has an IEP, every child needs assistance and teachers are writing these. And I don't want to piss anyone off here, but the level of legal standard that we hold a brand new teacher who's emergency certified is the same legal standard as someone who's been teaching for 25 years.

And so what we have to think about what we can do to be of assistance to help these individuals as a part of this process. But the other thing is I just want, I'm just committed to trying to help the kids because I think I used this phrase with you last time is these kids have disabilities at no fault of their own and we just need to do what we can for them as a part of this. The great thing about that book is it's gone nicely viral.

and a whole bunch of colleges and universities use it for their IEP writing course. And so the big book out there that was used prior to this one was written by Barbara Bateman, who I'm not related to, but a wonderful woman, wonderful woman. She recently passed away. And so that book is not going to be being updated, but we're just trying to get good information into people's hands to help them as much as possible.

And so some of the things that we've stemmed off from this is that this was written, it was written before AI was really something that we addressed. And actually, I'm gonna caution some of the listeners on this about this, is that what I'm seeing is parents taking IEPs and loading them into chat GPT.

And which first, I applaud the parents for wanting to participate in their child's education, wanting to be part of this process. But that's not the way to do it. Because what you do is you're basically releasing a whole bunch of personally identifiable information about a child into the internet. And once it crosses over the threshold, you're never getting that stuff back. And so there are ways we need to make sure that we talk to parents about this, because I'm hearing from districts in multiple states.

parents were walking in saying, hi, I loaded this in the CHED GPT and this is what they told me, a good summary and here are some better goals and just talk to them about this. mean, they're looking for a way to do it. There's ways of doing, of loading a goal into that but doesn't release all the information but we have to talk about where we're going with this. So, the appendices of the book also give some really good information that are helping families understand what the rules and responsibilities are as a part of this.

So there's a variety of things we're trying to get out there. But IEPs, yeah, they're the big kahuna that we look at in special education and we need to take them very seriously. so I've also written a module, Michiel and Cartho, we wrote some training modules for this at the IRIS Center that are really, they're being used pretty heavily. So we're really pleased about those as well. And they're all free for people to use. So that's good stuff.

Marisha (04:46)

And we can link those in the show notes as well. That sounds like an incredible resource. And yeah, I just want to reiterate a couple of things that you shared because I think anyone in special education, whether they're like an educator or an administrator or...

a consultant. think ultimately everyone's goal is to better serve students. We don't go into this industry to become rich and famous. So I think that's one of the

David Bateman (05:11)

Bye. Right, and

if anyone is, please tell me how we can become rich and famous.

Marisha (05:19)

Yeah. And so I think we all have that shared goal. And I guess so, and we talked about this a little bit in the previous episode, but, you mentioned a couple of things, but where are we, like, what are the biggest issues that you're seeing with IEPs? Cause you mentioned that emergency certified teachers are held to the same.

legal standard as very tenured teachers. So I assume that experience is part of it and that we're having a lot of quick hires to fill roles and turnover in the field. But what other factors are you seeing that are contributing to these issues with IEPs?

David Bateman (05:54)

Yeah. Yeah.

I could break this down probably just some really basic things. The first one is lack of understanding of what FAPE is. That the IEPs are really not aligned with what the kids need and therefore they aren't really helping the child make progress.

And so as a part of FAPE, our obligation is for kids to make progress. And some of these kids are not making progress and we're not changing what's going on as a part of what we're doing with it. So we need a better job to ensure that the kid is making progress as a part of this. Second big thing I'm seeing is just vague or lack of ambitious goals where the goal is too vague and doesn't really articulate what's going on because

Many of these kids are very transient and they're going from location to location to location, again, at no fault of their own because their parents are moving them. But it's that they need better understanding of someone that needs to make sure we have really good goals that are tied directly to this child that someone can then implement. The next thing I'm seeing is, I'm going to keep going on. I'm just generating as we go, is lack of baseline data.

on the goals because we sometimes we write these goals but we don't know where the kid currently is functioning so that we don't know actually if we're making progress on said goal and then can't articulate yay or nay about what we're doing for the child is helping that child make progress. But the biggest thing and I've got others after this but by far the biggest one that I'm seeing is and I speak to you is you're an SLP. SLPs take data differently than teachers do.

And I applaud because when I've done witness preparation for SLPs, it's a joy. It truly is because you have data like crazy. And I applaud you for this. And I appreciate that. But a lot of teachers aren't taking enough progress monitoring data to help us understand what's going on with the child and help us really determine what we're doing with the child. I mean, one thing that would change services.

would absolutely change every services and reduce the amount of litigation that we have relating to special education. As if teachers would just take more data and use that for informed decision making as opposed to just taking data and ignoring it. Because the law looks at when you knew or should have known that a child was having problems. And it's better for us to look at when the child is having problems and articulate and change what's going on about that instead of just having the kids continue to suffer.

Other things I'm seeing, not getting the parents involved in the process or not paying attention to them. I start every single IEP meeting I go to and I only go to the contentious ones. I don't go to the happy ones that are done in like 20 minutes and we have pizza and some kumbaya. No, I don't go to those. I go to the contentious But I start every single IEP meeting I go to with parent. Tell us about your child.

Because what that does is it grounds us and reminds us we're there to talk about a child. not just there for a paperwork compliance document. Other things I'm seeing is, again, proper team composition, where I'm trying to give you a good example of this, where we often pull the teacher who is free that period, not the teacher who knows what the kid looks like. It meets the letter of law, but I don't think it meets the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law would be have the teacher who's free

go cover the class of the teacher who knows what the kid looks like until that teacher come down just for 20 minutes, half an hour, just talk about that child and what they're experiencing. I'm also seeing cookie cutter IEPs where all the IEPs are the same. And I'm also seeing a lack of consistency between the present levels and the goals that we have where there's like...

Like I'm seeing, a kid has reading, reading, reading behavior problems, right? I see really good reading goals, but I see nothing to address said behavior issues. And that's probably one of the things that's tripping up districts the most is the problems relating to discipline problems, because that's why teachers are leaving the profession. They're not leaving the profession because a kid has a reading problem. They're leaving the profession because they have behavior problems. So we needed a better job of coming up with solutions and suggestions on how to handle this one.

That's just a broad answer on a variety of things that I'm seeing of late and what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to think of cases that I've recently been involved in. So, everything we're talking about are hypercurrent and things that I've every example, everything I've you are that I have seen since the beginning of the school year. So, this is things that we're seeing that – so, it's very current stuff, okay? So, great question. Thank you. I appreciate that one. Yeah.

Marisha (10:44)

Yeah, and that

is not a short list. There's a lot of...

David Bateman (10:47)

No, no, I could go

on, basically is the, yeah, but staff training. I mean, we're not doing good staff training on what the Gen Ed teachers need to do relating to the implementation of the IEPs. And probably as your background as an SLP, you understand that because you are often only with the kids on a limited time and you need others to implement those services for the kid in the classroom and be consistent with what you're trying to provide instruction for and reinforce those skills.

So we need to do a better job of all those things.

Marisha (11:19)

Yeah, and then, okay, so we have a lot of different challenges when it comes to writing effective IEPs. And you mentioned staff training as a big strategy, that, like that's, the staff is writing the, they're writing the IEPs, so that makes sense. That's where we want to start. Have you seen districts make...

David Bateman (11:36)

Yeah.

Marisha (11:43)

Like have you had any success stories with districts where they have been able to implement staff training and see a really big improvement in the quality of their IEPs? Or like if you could develop kind of a rough guideline of a program, like what would that look like?

David Bateman (11:58)

Okay, yeah, let me, I appreciate the latitude here. This is good, I love this, okay. This start with the why of the IEP. And is to give an example of because kids with disabilities were previously not receiving services. And they're now a protected class because they were historically prevented from participating in school.

So it's a legal document because they're a protected class. It only exists for kids eligible for special education. It doesn't exist for other kids. So the first is it's a legal document to explain what's going on. then we, so I would talk about collaboration and make sure we have really good team input for this. Do we have really good team input? We have this, everyone involved in the process that we have.

Everyone who's gonna be working with a child and talk about this because let me give you an example. I don't think I gave you this example before. A few years ago, I would walk my dog with a teacher. She was a fifth grade teacher and she had just gotten her class list. And of the 25 kids in her class, 22 of them had preferred seating close to the teacher. And...

We were trying as we're walking our dogs, she's walking her dog, I'm walking my dog. We're trying to figure out how is she going to do that? And what we originally thought was stacking the kids on top of each other so that they all could sit close to the teacher. And what she ended up doing is she ended up setting her classroom in a U-shaped format so that she could go down the center and see all what's going on. Those three kids who did not have preferred seating, we sat them in the field, we didn't care about them. But it's interesting about this is that we need to talk about

the responsibilities of the teachers who are working with these kids. Get them in the meetings, get them involved in the process so they understand what their roles and responsibilities, and also that they're participating. Because when I go to these meetings, I mandate that everybody who's in the meeting takes notes. They're not grading, they're not on their phone, they're sitting there taking notes. So that forces them to pay attention because...

We as educators get to attend many, many of these IEP being ZEAR, but the parents, this is their one. We need to give it the time, we need to give it the respect. They have taken time from their family, their work. We need to honor that as a part of this. But other things I would focus on, and the book covers this real nicely, I would focus on smart goals for kids.

Make sure this my son's in the business world. He came home not too long ago and said, dad, we have this new thing called smart goals. I said, really tell me about this. And he sits there and he's started and it was really, it keeps going. just tell me more, tell me more. I finally said, wait, you've heard of this, haven't you? So I pulled out the book and he was a little pissed, but it's interesting about this. start, but then, but for all kids is make sure that we start with a really good present level statement.

because that drives everything. It truly drives everything. It drives the services, it drives the goals, it drives the intensity, it drives everything. So I make sure as a part of this that I get statements from everybody who observes and works with that child. I get statements from bus drivers. I get statements from playground monitors. I get statements from lunchroom monitors about this. But I also make sure that we have really good statements as a part of this. But there's new thing that I'm also doing with the districts that I work with.

is that I'm asking them to put at the beginning of the present level statement, a three sentence summary of the services the child's receiving. Just a three sentence summary so that when that child moves to a new district, if that's all they read, they're now in the ballpark to start thinking about the services this child sees, having to read the whole thing. And that just makes it easier for these kids to transition from place to place as a part of this. But then,

But then talk about then if I was going to do more training, I would then practice writing some goals in some of these kids, make sure that we have good examples for this. Those IRIS modules that we're going to link to have some really good things as a part of this. I'll make sure to get those links as it addresses that. And those are free modules. You can use them over and over again for your teachers. In fact, I recommend if your district gets a brand new teacher, send, I know where that teacher's been from.

Send that new teacher into and have that teacher as part of their onboarding do the IRS module on legal and client IEPs for teachers. You get a brand new administrator, building level principal, assistant principal, I'd have them do the one for administrators. It'll be worth it. And true, these are free. Do them over over again and things like this. Then I would talk with the teachers about how to use technology for progress monitoring to keep track of things.

because people are feeling really overwhelmed with the amount of progress monitoring and how to keep data on these things. But make sure that we have good technology, technological advice, advantageous tools for them to help with this and keep track of these things. And it's in an consistent place and a consistent format because we may have a teacher who has great data, but they've locked it in their own personal computer. And if they're in an auto accident, we can't access it. We can't pay attention to it.

So we need to make sure it's data that is consistently used among others and help with us. But just keep this mind. The last thing I would do, and in addition, there's many other things, is I would make sure that we have really good mentors for new teachers as a part of their writing of these things. Because new teachers are great. I'm so glad that they've come into the field and I appreciate them.

but we need to provide the mentorship about what is expected about a good quality IEP and where to turn the forms in, how to do this and how to participate as part of where we're going with this. And then continue with follow-up support. Follow-up support because what's that great phrase we have about kids with autism? If you've seen one kid with autism, you've seen one kid with autism. Well, the same thing about IEP meetings. If you've seen one IEP meeting, you've seen one IEP meeting because they are all so very different. So continue to follow

allow mentors to work on this and plan for these in the future because they are all, thankfully they're different because of the independent nature of what's going on. We make sure that we provide the support for people down the road because my first year of teaching, I remember this real specifically, I had a lot of parents who came in and they just asked, where do I sign? And they were in and out of the room in 30 seconds. Then I had others who...

One, spend five to six hours on it. so it depends on the needs of the parent and how we do this. So we have to address this and move forward. But make sure there's continued support for this. so keep that up. Another great question. I like that one.

Marisha (18:29)

Yeah.

Yeah, and

I'm reflecting on my experiences in the school districts and I personally would have loved, like when I was starting out, I would have loved, like a mentor who would review my IEPs and give feedback. Like I was craving that. was, cause I was trying to do my very, very best and like look at the training resources and all of that to make sure I was writing an effective IEP, but having that feedback and having someone point out, cause it makes sense. okay.

we want to have comprehensive present levels and we want to make sure that goals are tied to that and but in the beginning it is really helpful to get that feedback and yeah and in a district that I worked in later provided that and it was just incredible and the quality of my IEPs significantly improved too.

David Bateman (19:10)

Absolutely.

Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear that and I appreciate how you share that because the stress that you felt because coming into a new position is there's a steep learning curve of the written rules, but also the unwritten rules. And you have to learn these things and just have someone guide you about what to do and how to do things. You're exactly very good.

Marisha (19:40)

Yeah, and I think, cause I was like, I was asking like, give me some templates and things like that, but it has to be very individualized. It's not cookie cutter. So just giving someone a couple of templates isn't gonna do the trick. So, yeah.

David Bateman (19:54)

Right, exactly, because it's

so individualized to that child. You're exactly right.

Marisha (19:59)

Okay,

perfect. And then, and so the, cause the training side of things doesn't have to be, like they can use the free, like do you think using the free iris modules would do, would be sufficient for that initial training?

David Bateman (20:13)

Yes. And let me explain how to do that as free initial training. So no, because I'm giving this advice to others. I would have like the special ed director have all the teachers and speech paths and other related services providers do the free module for teachers. And then that's their ticket in the door to a meeting the following week with the special ed director and

Marisha (20:14)

And so, okay. Okay, cool.

David Bateman (20:37)

staff of the school district. All right. Now that you've seen the module, the module is written at a national level. This, let me talk to you about how we do this within our district. This is where the forms are kept. This is who you turn the form into. This is who monitors the days. This is how your notices need to be sent out. you pass out a prior written notice to a parent, this is where you get it. Those kinds of things, but make it individualized to your district.

The same thing for building level administrators. I would have the special ed director say, here's the module, free module, there's no cost to this stuff. The free module for building level administrators, have them take that module and a week later, give them time to process it, form some questions, nature of adult learning, and then sit down with them. This is how we do it in our district. What questions do you have? This is where you go. You have a pre-referral form. This is who you file this with. Who do we monitor this? Who's counting the days? Those kinds of things.

So do that and so take that information that but then parallel to what you're doing in your district to make sure it's precisely know what they need to do it. So that would be a great way of teaching your district about it it's free. You don't need to get someone from the outside and you just get someone and do this and I think it would be better for everyone to do something like this because those modules when we were writing them, they went through layers of lawyer vetting and they field tested them before they saw the light of day and there...

wildly popular. So we're pretty pleased. We're pretty pleased with the effect of it. And they're free. I don't get any residuals off this. It's not like I'm endorsing something where I'm going to get paid on from this. It's just a great resource as a part of this. And the other thing is just to let you know, is if people happen to reach out to me next spring, we're going to have a lot of training modules for principals and training modules for teachers about IEPs. They're just all going to be free stuff. then so we're going to have these things and

I'm just trying to push out as much free resources for people as possible because I'm well aware that most of the districts of representative people who are listening to this, they're probably really well off and they have more than enough money to spend. But I'm gonna try to give free stuff to the ones who don't. So just to help them, okay?

Marisha (22:53)

Yeah, that's great. And I'll keep an eye out too if I...

David Bateman (22:56)

Yeah, sure. I'll put

a ticker on my calendar to send you also the information when it comes out.

Marisha (23:00)

Okay, and then I'll

update the show notes. if anyone's listening after the spring of 2025.

the show notes should have the updated links and additional trainings. Yeah, and as a former district employee, would have loved that too, just having, and if the training, because if they had sent me a link of do this training, I think that would have been helpful, but having the special ed director lead it and then start off with saying how important it is, like connecting to the why, like you said previously,

David Bateman (23:11)

Sweet. I like that.

Marisha (23:32)

I think that would be really helpful. And then if you're doing it in person, you're much more likely to pay more attention and have some discussion and engagement around it. So I love that. And then the follow-up with the specifics for the district is even better because then they're equipped to know how to actually do it.

David Bateman (23:38)

Right, right, right.

So having helped some of these new directors of special education do the follow-up, what I do is this is going to seem a little strange, but I have the people, they've had to watch the module before they walk in the room. They walk in the room, I give every one of them a three by five card and they can write whatever question they have about IEPs and we sit there and we answer all their questions because

Marisha (24:04)

Okay.

David Bateman (24:19)

And I'll be candid with you. Some teachers and some administrators are embarrassed to ask questions in front of their peers. This is a way to do it anonymously and this is a way to allow them to get their questions addressed. it just helped them as much as possible to get these things so that everyone truly understands what's going on. But it also lets you know where the individuals seem to feel lacking and what they can do as a part of this and where do they need to get more trainings as a part of this.

So it's, but it just, we do our, this is where the forms are, this is who you contact, this is the special ed secretary, call this number for questions, but just take your questions about IEPs. Special Ed directors should be able to handle those questions. They should be able, if they can't, there's resources that can help them get answers to those questions, but it's a way to help them address this and help them move forward.

Marisha (25:09)

Yeah, that's great. And then in terms of mentorship and follow-up support, I'm sure there's some district administrators who are, because scheduling a training, think that, especially using the free modules, that feels doable. I think that should, I don't know, I don't foresee that causing too many hurdles. I know scheduling can be tricky, but.

We do beginning of the year training all the time, but then in terms of like, you're, if an administrator staff is spread really thin or they're like, I don't know who could even be a mentor, provide that support. or maybe they have a huge percentage of new SLPs and only one or two people who could be mentors. What are some strategies in navigating that? Is there.

like outside support that they can enroll or strategies to help the mentors be able to have the capacity? Like how do you, have you seen administrators navigate that?

David Bateman (26:08)

Well, it's fine. It's trying to find a first trying to find a person that they can be a mentor who they trust. And who and then making sure that that person has some time in their schedule to do this, because they're doing their job, but then they're also going to be shaping the character of another person's job. But

But just make sure that we talk about the, we go through just those tips I went through before. We address the areas of the need, but things like this. But also talk about collaboration with individuals and help with this move and help this. But the last thing, the one thing that I think I've seen the best is shadowing and co-writing IEPs.

I'd co-write the first few IEPs with the new teacher or SLP with the district and then provide feedback along the way saying, all right, sit side by side with them. Here's the data we have. And we're really good in special ed about doing this, but task analyze, this is the first thing I would do. This is the second thing I would do. This is the third thing I would do and kind of walk through this and where we can get the information.

Because increasingly, IEP writing software, and if you haven't had experience or if you've had experience in a different system, you now have an, we just make sure that we hold their hands so they understand how to do this so that it's not so overwhelming. But like sit side by side and do one or two and then show how you would do that and move things. But then gradually, just any good change, gradually,

or people that very different. They'll gradually step away on things and be there for the areas where they have additional assistance, kinds of things like this. And then here's one, is make sure we recognize and celebrate progress when someone's actually doing something. Like a milestone, like when the first SLP or teacher, first successful IEP meeting or their first really well-written goal.

Marisha (28:07)

Thank

David Bateman (28:09)

and just periodically offer encouragement or remind them of the positive impact of work that they have on students' lives, those kinds of things. it shouldn't just end the first time that they meet. I say this because my first mentor said, I'm here for you, just come talk to me. And I didn't know what I should even talk to that person about. And so I didn't know what I could do, what I couldn't do. And I was basically left to flounder.

And I probably learned some ways of doing things that were ineffective. Got the job done, but were ineffective. We need to make sure that we help these individuals as a part of this because we're not getting the supply of new teachers, new related service personnel showing up on our school districts anymore. We need to do a better job. We've got a new person who's willing to come to our district, provide them the support to help them with this process so that they want to stay and they want to be part of this. But kind of...

just with anyone, teach them and then gradually fade away as the world. But celebrate these things, celebrate when they've done something as opposed to, because I've also, I saw a mentor who basically only talked to her mentee when the mentee did something wrong.

And so celebrate the good stuff. Celebrate the good stuff, okay? Yeah.

Marisha (29:26)

And that'll be

a factor in retention and all of that. And we will, we're, and, cause we may want to compensate mentors to like extrinsically motivate them a little bit, but the ROI on having a really good onboarding program and like support great, I, good effective IEP training.

will pay dividends because I assume that the new teacher will be much more confident, less stressed, and more enjoyment, which will help with retention too. And then your students are getting better services, which is everyone's ultimate goal. And the IEPs will be higher quality, which reduces the possibility of due process and settlement and all of that messy stuff. And it makes the process just go that much smoother.

David Bateman (29:55)

Yes.

Marisha (30:16)

and we get to be more efficient with our time in the long run. So I feel like there's a really epic ROI in a lot of different directions in spending some time on this.

David Bateman (30:25)

I like how you articulated that because the ROI, the return on investment is huge if we onboard people and show them how to do things. Yes.

Marisha (30:38)

So I'm sure that it's easy to come up with reasons of why setting up mentorship is going to be challenging or tricky, but hopefully, like considering some of those factors makes it a little bit easier. Okay, wow. So many good tips and strategies. Is there anything else that you wanted to share?

David Bateman (30:51)

Yep. Yeah.

One thing, just one thing. Two things, three things by the time I'm done. But first, I really appreciate the opportunity to talk with you. And I appreciate the service that you're providing to the field. And we're lucky that you're doing so much. So just keep up the good work. Second thing, one thing, this is the one thing you asked me, but I wanted to make sure I appreciated you. Is the one thing if

Marisha (31:07)

You

David Bateman (31:28)

that would reduce the threat of litigation or the anxiety that teachers have relating to litigation and IEPs is if they dramatically opt their progress monitoring data. Earlier on, I was talking about how good SLPs are about this is because you guys, SLPs take progress monitoring data every single time you work with a child. I'm not saying quite do that, which I think is wonderful by the way, is at least for like in a typical nine week marketing period, we should have

five to six data points that we can graph as a part of this. And if we can't graph it, it's not good data. And so we need to graph this data and then use that information for something. Because if you find out that the kid is not making progress through what you're doing, you need to change something. Because I have been involved in over 1,000 due process hearings. A lot of them were related to when the district knew or should have known that the child was having problems. If you knew the child was having problems,

and you did not work to address that child's needs, that child suffered. And we need to the professionals in the room, provide appropriate services, change something. I wish there would be just one change that would cause these kids to do something better. Sometimes it takes two, three, four, five changes, but do that will solve a lot of problems. And I think will be beneficial for the child. And I think will really help them down in the long run.

Marisha (32:49)

Yeah, that progress monitoring is huge. If we can start with a solid IEP and have good measurable goals, it'll make that process a lot easier. And yeah, and we can use a similar kind of model of putting together training for teachers on how to do.

David Bateman (32:55)

Yes.

Yes.

Marisha (33:08)

like strategies for effective progress monitoring and come up with strategies and systems and mentorship support and all of that to help boost that as well. So yeah, awesome. Well, this was a fabulous conversation. I feel like there were some really great resources. I love that there's free training that districts can use. So this is super practical and doable.

David Bateman (33:19)

Thank you.

Mm-hmm. Yes.

Marisha (33:32)

And then especially with the additional tips and strategies that you shared. So thank you again for being so generous with your time and expertise. I really appreciate it and I'm sure the listeners do too. And yeah, thank you to anyone who listened and we, I think I can speak for David too, but we really admire that you are.

out there like learning like trying to learn and figure out strategies to improve things in your district and for your students. So keep at it. We know it's not always easy but doing good work.

David Bateman (34:05)

Well stated, thank you.

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Gestalt Language Processing: Fundamentals for SLPs

February 4, 2025 by Marisha Leave a Comment

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Welcome to another episode of the SLP Now podcast! We’re continuing the series where we do a deep dive into all things Gestalt Language Processing, and I’m bringing some of the best in our field to join me and share their expertise.

Today, Marisha and Jessica Teixeira discuss Gestalt Language Processing fundamentals!

In this episode of the SLP Now podcast, Marisha welcomes Jessica Teixeira, a certified speech-language pathologist, to discuss Gestalt Language Processing (GLP). Jessica shares her journey into the field, highlighting the challenges she faced with traditional methods and how she discovered GLP. The conversation delves into the differences between analytic and gestalt language processing, the historical context of GLP, and the importance of understanding these concepts for speech-language pathologists. Jessica emphasizes the need for individualized approaches and trusting one’s instincts in practice.

Takeaways from This Episode

  • Jessica’s journey reflects common struggles faced by SLPs.
  • Language processing is a continuum from analytic to gestalt language processing.
  • Analytic language processors are referred to as ‘word babies’.
  • Gestalt language processors are known as ‘intonation babies’.
  • Echolalia is often misunderstood; it can be meaningful.
  • Historical research on GLP dates back to the 70s and 80s.
  • Social media has played a crucial role in spreading awareness of GLP.
  • Understanding GLP helps SLPs support diverse communication needs.
  • Individualized approaches are essential for effective therapy.
  • Trusting one’s instincts can lead to better outcomes for clients.


Jessica’s Additional GLP Resources

  • Jessica’s Instagram
  • Play Haven Pediatric Therapy
  • SLP Now Gestalt Language Processing – Ultimate Guide
  • “Child-Led & Gestalt Language Processing” Handout
  • Uniquely Human Podcast
  • Meaningful Speech Instagram

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Marisha (00:01.796)

Hey there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. We are kicking off a series on all things crystal language processing. So for the next several episodes, we have a variety of guests to help us break down this topic. And I'm really excited to have Jessica Teixeira with us today.

she is a certified speech language pathologist with a passion for supporting professionals and parents on their journey and learning about Gestalt language development and neurodiversity affirming practices. you can find her on Instagram, Jess the SLP, and then I'll link to her some other other places you can find her on, in the show notes, which will be linked in the episode. but.

The bio that I just kind of shared does Jessica know justice. So let's turn it over to Jessica and hear from her. So hello, Jessica.

Jessica Teixeira (01:03.34)

Hello, thanks for having me.

Marisha (01:05.74)

I'm so excited to have you kick off the series with us. And, before we dive into all things, GLP, I'm really curious just to hear a little bit more about your story. Like how did you end up learning so much about GLP and kind of what led you down this route?

Jessica Teixeira (01:24.088)

Yeah, so a little about my story and how I ended up here is in my clinical fellowship here, I worked at a clinic where I mainly supported autistic students and about 90 % of my caseload was autistic. And I was doing all of the things that we were taught in grad school and just kept thinking.

what I was doing didn't feel right. I wasn't seeing the progress with my clients that I was taught that I should see. And what I would see very limited progress or some progress and then it would plateau. And I also saw that my clients really didn't enjoy my sessions. Like I think they liked

me as a clinician, but they just weren't having fun. And honestly, I didn't enjoy my sessions either. was like, I was so passionate about being an SLP. It's something I've wanted to be for so long. My mom worked in the school. She's worked in the school since she was 18 years old. And I would always go to school with her. And at first I wanted to be a teacher. And then I saw an SLP do a push in and I was like, that is what I want to do.

And then I was actually in these sessions as a full on SLP and I was like, what's going on? I don't enjoy being here. My clients don't enjoy being here. I'm not seeing the progress that they're telling me I should see. What, like something there has to be something else. And I honestly started questioning if this was even really the field for me. And so I honestly, in a last ditch effort.

went to Google and I, and this is probably the type five Enneagram in me. If anybody knows anything about Enneagrams, I'm a type five. I don't know if that says anything, but I just need to understand everything about everything. And so I just deep dived into other ways that I could support my clients. And all of sudden,

Jessica Teixeira (03:46.806)

Marge Blanc's book, Natural Language Acquisition on the Autism Spectrum popped up and I was like, huh, interesting. Let me deep dive into that more. And then Alexandria Zakos' work with Meaningful Speech very, very early on, like right when she started Meaningful Speech started coming on my Instagram feed. And so was like these two worlds, Marge's book and Alex's work collided and I was like, just deep dived into...

everything that they were saying. I was reading Marge's book every day after work. I was like so just amazed by everything Alex was posting on Instagram and it just felt right. Like it looked like exactly what I had been looking for. And then so honestly, I just was like, I might as well try it, right? Like what else is, you know, what do I have to lose? And so I started

implementing a lot of these strategies that they were talking about. I, everything changed for me. My clients started enjoying my sessions more. I started loving my job and then I was actually seeing the progress that I was told that I should be seeing. And the rest is kind of history. just

absolutely fell in love with supporting Gestalt language processors and that's how I connected with Alexandria Zachos and joined the Meaningful Speech team, started my practice supporting Gestalt language processors and here we are.

Marisha (05:21.07)

That's amazing. I love that. And I feel like your story is one that a lot of SLPs can relate to. I've heard a variation of that for a lot of different areas. So I love that you kind of persevered and even like, you were a problem solver and you're trying to like figure out how to find that joy in being an SLP. And it sounds like you were super successful.

Jessica Teixeira (05:28.238)

Mm-hmm.

Jessica Teixeira (05:33.774)

Yup.

Jessica Teixeira (05:49.74)

think so.

Marisha (05:50.842)

I love that. Okay, so thank you so much for sharing your story. And so now we get to get into a little bit of the nitty gritty. So I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page. So can you walk us through what GLP is and kind of a super quick primer in terms of like if an SLP hasn't heard about it yet.

Jessica Teixeira (06:14.414)

you

Jessica Teixeira (06:18.318)

Absolutely. Yes, so I always start by saying I think it's helpful to think of language processing as a continuum so a continuum from analytic language processing to the short language processing and What this means is some children might be fully analytic Some children might be fully to shawl and some children might fall somewhere between the two so when I talk about the short language processing and probably

through the rest of this episode, I'm mostly referring to the children that fall more towards that gestalt side of the spectrum. But let's start with what analytic language processing is and then dive into GLP. So analytic language processing is something that all SLPs, parents, really anybody who's listening to this is probably familiar with. These are children that we refer to as word babies.

And these are the children that start with single words. These single words are flexible to start. They're referential. And these single words hold an individual meaning for that child. These single words then in stage two become two word combinations and then three word phrases and then early grammar in sentences, more advanced grammar, and then they're having adult-like conversations, right? This sounds very familiar.

what we learned about in grad school, what we see in most doctors' offices on charts and where your child should be. But the word that I really like to point out with analytic language processors is flexible. So their language is flexible to start. So right from that stage one, that language is flexible, referential, you can build on it as they move through the stages. With gestalt language processors, they are what we refer to as intonation babies.

So they start with chunks of language and they pick up these chunks based on the intonational contour of that chunk and also the experience from when they heard it. So it typically holds a much larger meaning for that child and that whole experience from when they heard that chunk. They pick up these chunks verbatim and these chunks are not flexible.

Jessica Teixeira (08:39.394)

These chunks can be any length, so they could be a single word, they can be a sentence, or I think as Marge Blanc says, they can be as short as a single word or as long as a movie. But again, they're not flexible. Unlike analytic language processors, they can't be expanded on, they can't be combined into longer utterances. And these chunks are often referred to as echolalia or scripting.

And they're actually more accurately described as gestalts. And that is the first stage of gestalt language development. And like analytic language processors, they move through very predictable stages. So they start with these chunks that are not flexible. In stage two, they become a little bit more flexible. They can start to mix and match or trim them down. In stage three, they start to isolate single words from those previous gestalts.

that are now flexible, just like where analytic language processors start, and then those stages start to look a little bit more similar. But, gestalt language processors have to go through two additional stages before they really get to where analytic language processors start.

Marisha (09:55.93)

Wow, that was such a nice overview. I love how you broke down those two and how we can think of analytic language processors as the word babies and the gestalt language processors as the intonation babies. And you did just a beautiful job of differentiating those. So thank you. And then, so can you tell us a little bit about the history behind this and maybe like,

Jessica Teixeira (10:12.11)

Thank you.

Marisha (10:24.078)

just what your perception is of like, why are we so focused on the analytic language processors? Like, why didn't we learn about this in grad school? Like, what's your take on that?

Jessica Teixeira (10:35.246)

Absolutely. This is one of my favorite questions. So I talk to many, many, people because I do professional consultations. I do in-person and virtual trainings and professional development. So I'm connecting with SLPs and professionals from various experience levels. So new, more experienced. And what I've come to learn is

One, GLP has been around for a while. If you talk to SLPs who have been in the field for a while, SLPs who have been practicing since the 70s, the 80s, or around that time, they'll tell you, I know about GLP. Like, this is nothing new. I've heard about this. They'll refer to Dr. Barry Prizant. They'll refer to Dr. Ann Peters. They'll say, I know the research. I know echolalia is meaningful. I don't know.

you know, why this seems like a new thing to so many people, because they learned about it. They saw this research, they learned about it in grad school. They've been practicing like echolalia is meaningful and acknowledging it and all the things that we're kind of discussing now. so this research has been around since the seventies and eighties. So like I said, Dr. Barry Prizant, Dr. Ann Peters, they published research back then.

And then Dr. Prizant in his research really called for more research. And what happened is Marge Blanc read this research and was like, I can do that. I can provide more research on this. So what she did is conduct 15 years of clinical research in her clinic on her clients. And she wrote the book that I referred to earlier, Natural Language Acquisition on the Autism Spectrum.

on that 15 years of clinical research. And what she did is she created the natural language acquisition framework, which really discussed how we can support these children. And she took the stages that Barry Prizant discussed in his research, those first four stages, and then she built on those and she added two additional stages, which really focused more on advanced and complex grammar. And so

Jessica Teixeira (13:00.992)

Then from there, happened is Marge's book was published in 2012 and people came across Marge's book. People like Alex Zachos, who's the founder of Meaningful Speech, where she was like, this is everything I've been looking for. I think we have very similar stories, just different times where Alex had been practicing for many years into being an SLP and she was feeling the same way. And she came across Marge's book.

And she was like, how do people not know about this? So what she did is she realized that so many people in this field are on social media. And she found that to be a great way to spread this information about gestalt language processing so that people would know that this exists. And I guess to answer, I got a bit off on a tangent. I'm gonna reel myself back and say,

Between Dr. Prizant and Ann Peters' work and Marge's book, our field went in a very different direction. Our field went a lot more in a compliance-based direction, and those strategies really are the opposite of how we support gestalt language processors. so it was taught back then, and then our field went more in that compliance-based direction. And all of this information kind of got

pushed to the side. not that it didn't exist, but people weren't taught about it until Marge's book came out. And then Alex got on social media, people learned about it, and here we are.

Marisha (14:43.96)

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And it's super interesting that how social media kind of helped revamp this a little bit. That's powerful.

Jessica Teixeira (14:54.766)

Right, right. It's such a great tool. mean, so many people are on social media to learn and connect with each other. I think sometimes people think of it as just the social media thing and it blew up on social media, but it's really such a tool for us to connect in this profession and to learn and, you know, just think more critically about what we're doing. I, you know, Alex saw that as an opportunity and I'm so glad she did because that's how, you know, one of the ways that I came across this information.

Marisha (15:25.08)

Yeah. Wow. And it's, our scope of practice is so broad and there's so much research. Like if we had, if we were just going straight to the research, like digging up the articles from the seventies and eighties would like a lot less people would have access to those.

Jessica Teixeira (15:43.702)

Absolutely. And another thing with social media too is it's allowed us to connect with actual Gestalt language processors, autistic adults who have said, this is exactly how I process language. This is it. And so we've been able to connect and hear from them and we're able to gain that part of.

evidence-based practice from the actual clients sharing their experiences and saying, hey, yes, this is how I process language. This is how I develop language. And yes, these things that you're saying are exactly, you know, what supported us in getting to self-generated, self-motivated language. So it's just, it's a great tool.

Marisha (16:29.338)

That is a great tool. And yeah, that's important to consider the whole triangle and not just the research aspect. So that's great. And then, okay, so that was a really helpful overview. so I think we have like a pretty good idea now, but let's just drive this point home. So why is it important for SLPs to learn about crystal language processing? And like, can we just...

Jessica Teixeira (16:35.63)

Sure is.

Marisha (16:58.488)

highlight a few ways that this could help us better support our students.

Jessica Teixeira (17:03.458)

Absolutely. So like I said earlier, we were taught about analytic language processing in grad school, and that means we were taught about strategies that support analytic language processors. So those are strategies like expansion or building vocabulary and labeling or WH questions, focusing on grammar and, you know, grammar early on. And those things might work for analytic language processors, but

they don't support the gestalt language processors in the early stages. And so if we are just using these strategies with all of the clients that we're supporting, then we're really only supporting analytic language processors and what we're actually doing, whether, you know, if we don't know about gestalt language processing, it might be well-intended, just like me, before I learned about it. And I was saying, I was doing all of these things and it was well-intended and I loved my clients and I wanted

to see progress, but I was actually hindering their progress by using these strategies because what some of these or what these strategies do is they can keep the gestalt language processors stuck in the early stages. So I'll give you an example. If we are using a strategy like building vocabulary or labeling.

What happens is we focus on labeling and whether we're naturally labeling things around the room or we're teaching children, you know, single word labels for things, we're building up a repertoire of these single word gestalts because remember, that's where it starts is these chunks of language that can be of any length. So if we're teaching or modeling these single words, they're picking up the single word as a chunk.

And going back to what I said, these chunks aren't flexible. So if we build up a repertoire of hundreds of single words, which I see with many of my clients, these are single words that can't be expanded on. They can't be, right? They can't be built upon. They can't be expanded on. They are inflexible.

Jessica Teixeira (19:17.51)

And it makes it so it's really hard for that child to go from stage one and move through the stages because they have all of these single words that can't be combined and can't be yeah, they can't be combined into these longer self-generated phrases and sentences. So if we understand gestalt language development, we can see the long-term picture, right? We can see these children can get to self-generated flexible language.

but we can't rush it. We need to start where they are. So if a child is in stage one, no matter how old they are, right, if they're a 10 year old who's in stage one, we might wish that they could have these back and forth conversations because that's what we want for that child, but we have to start where they are. So it's important that we understand the stages so that we're not trying to rush them and return.

hindering their ability to get to self-generated, self-motivated, flexible language. So if we understand Gestalt language development and we understand the stages, we understand what our goals are and how to support these children to get to self-generated language.

Marisha (20:38.008)

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And so if we're seeing a student who is like maybe like picking up the single words, but we're not seeing them go to the like start to combine the words, then that might be a really strong indicator that we want to consider using a different approach. And there are a lot of other things that we'll see in addition to lack of progress. But we'll dive into that in future.

Jessica Teixeira (20:50.67)

All right.

Jessica Teixeira (21:02.062)

sorry.

Marisha (21:07.17)

episodes in the series. So we'll have an episode where we dive into the different stages and assessment strategies and all sorts of stuff. So there's some really, really great content coming because you might be leaving this episode with more questions than answers. But this was meant to be the primer just to get us on the same page. And yeah, so I'm really excited to continue learning. And then

Jessica, thank you so much for breaking this down in such a nice way. Is there anything else that you wanted to kind of wrap up with or share?

Jessica Teixeira (21:43.502)

I think my only piece of advice is to trust your gut like I did in those early years in my clinical fellowship. If what you're doing doesn't feel right or if you're feeling like there could be something else, just explore it. Don't just keep doing what you're doing because that's what you were taught. There might be another way and just.

Make sure that every client that comes through your door, you take an individualized approach to that client. And yeah, I think that's where I'd like to leave it.

Marisha (22:18.554)

Yeah, beautifully said. And then I mentioned that you're Jess the SLP on Instagram and your website is playhavenpediatrics.com. Is there anywhere else?

Jessica Teixeira (22:32.078)

So I also am on the meaningful speech Instagram as well. I'm on the meaningful speech team and I just recently joined the uniquely human team with Dr. Barry Prizant. So you'll likely see me more there as well. So I'm on both of those accounts.

Marisha (22:32.57)

when I was a student.

Marisha (22:49.024)

amazing. So I'll link to all of those and then we'll hear from Alex from Meaningful Speech in a couple episodes too so you'll get to, or listeners will get to meet her and yeah I'm excited for all the great content so thanks for kicking us off Jessica.

Jessica Teixeira (23:06.85)

Thanks for having me.

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Due Process in Special Education

January 28, 2025 by Marisha Leave a Comment

In the world of special education, due process is a cornerstone for protecting the rights of students with disabilities. At its core, it ensures fairness and accountability, offering a legal pathway for parents to address disagreements with schools regarding their child’s Individualized Education Program (IEP) or 504 Plan.

To help unpack the complexities of due process, we turn to Angela Buchanan Smagula, a seasoned education attorney and co-host of the podcast A Special Education Teacher, Administrator, and Lawyer Walk into a Bar….all you ever wanted to know about special education. With years of experience representing schools and navigating the intricate landscape of special education law, Angela brings a wealth of knowledge and practical insights. 

In this guide, we’ll explore the key elements of due process, its impact on special education administrators and families, and actionable strategies for fostering collaboration and avoiding conflicts. Whether you’re navigating your first hearing or looking to strengthen your district’s approach, this resource is here to support you.

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Angela Smagula’s SpeciaL Ed Resources:

  • Angela’s LinkedIn
  • Kahn & Smagula LLP (Angela’s Practice Website)
  • A Special Education Teacher, Administrator and Lawyer walk into a bar….all you ever wanted to know about special education (Angela’s Podcast) 
  • Instagram: astalpodcast
  • Email:  [email protected]

Introduction to Due Process in Special Education

Why is due process so critical? 

Simply put, education is not a privilege—it’s a right. This principle forms the backbone of laws like the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), which mandates that every student has access to a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE) in the least restrictive environment. 

Due process ensures that when conflicts arise, there’s a structured way to resolve them, safeguarding the educational opportunities for students who need them most.

“Due process is a legal procedure that allows parents and guardians to challenge decisions made by schools regarding their child’s IEP or 504 Plan. The education system recognizes education as a right, not a privilege, and due process ensures there is a structured way to protect that right and resolve conflicts effectively.”​

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

The Laws That Shape Special Education Due Process

Navigating due process starts with understanding the legal framework that underpins it. At the heart of these protections lies the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), which establishes that every child with a disability is entitled to a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE). This federal law sets the baseline for how due process operates, while individual states build on these guidelines with their own regulations.

Under IDEA, due process hearings serve as a critical mechanism for resolving disputes between parents and school districts. States are required to provide impartial hearing officers to evaluate evidence and make decisions based on the law. The ultimate goal? To ensure that students receive the services they need in a fair and equitable manner.

Key Legal Components:

  • Procedural Safeguards: IDEA mandates that schools provide parents with a detailed explanation of their rights, including access to records and the ability to challenge decisions through hearings.
  • FAPE and the Least Restrictive Environment (LRE): These principles ensure that students receive education tailored to their needs in an inclusive setting whenever possible.
  • State-Specific Regulations: Each state refines federal guidelines to suit local needs, but they cannot reduce the protections IDEA provides.

By understanding these foundational laws, administrators and families can better navigate the due process system and advocate effectively for the rights of students.

“IDEA requires all of the states to follow their statutory framework with regard to due process hearings. And so [parents] have an outlet when they are dissatisfied with the school with regard to accommodations and services, not following the IEP, not providing an appropriate placement, not providing FAPE, not addressing behavioral or disciplinary issues appropriately. When you have a disagreement with the school, the school doesn’t just get to say, sorry, we’re right. So it allows for another level of review.”

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

Breaking Down the Components of Due Process

Due process in special education is more than just a legal term—it’s a structured system designed to ensure fairness in decisions affecting students with disabilities. By understanding its key elements, school administrators and families can better navigate this complex process.

  1. Notification and Participation Parents must be informed about meetings, evaluations, and changes to their child’s Individualized Education Program (IEP). Active participation is not only encouraged but essential. Parents bring valuable perspectives to the table, ensuring decisions are holistic and student-focused.
  2. Independent Evaluations Parents have the right to request independent evaluations if they disagree with a school’s assessments. These third-party evaluations provide an objective view, which can play a crucial role during due process hearings.
  3. The Hearing Process During a due process hearing, both parties present their cases before a neutral hearing officer. Evidence, such as data on the student’s progress and expert testimony, is evaluated to determine if the school has upheld its obligation to provide a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE).
  4. The Role of Documentation IEPs serve as legal documents, and proper documentation is critical. Schools must ensure they accurately record decisions, communications, and progress to support their position in any disputes.

Understanding these components is critical for administrators to prepare effectively and for parents to advocate confidently.

“The IEP serves as a contract and legal document. Schools must demonstrate that they are providing a Free Appropriate Public Education in the least restrictive environment and that students are making documented effective progress. Any issues, whether as narrow as implementation or as broad as placement, can be addressed through the due process system”​.

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

Preparing for Success in Due Process Hearings

For special education administrators, navigating a due process hearing can seem daunting. However, with careful preparation and a clear understanding of the steps involved, schools can confidently approach these situations.

“When filing a due process complaint, it’s critical to outline the issues and desired remedies clearly. The hearing process involves presenting evidence and testimony to a neutral officer who will issue a written decision. Outcomes may include approving the school’s proposal, modifying the IEP, or ordering additional services or placements based on the evidence”​

 

– Angela Smagula

  1. Filing a Complaint The process begins when a parent or school district files a written complaint. This document must outline the issues and the remedies sought. It’s crucial that the complaint is specific, as it sets the stage for the hearing.
  2. Pre-Hearing Steps Before the hearing, both parties participate in a resolution meeting or mediation. These sessions provide an opportunity to address concerns collaboratively and avoid the need for a full hearing. Schools should approach these discussions openly and with a problem-solving mindset.
  3. Evidence and Testimony The hearing itself involves presenting evidence and witness testimony to a neutral hearing officer. Schools must provide thorough documentation, including data, IEP records, and assessments, to support their case. Witness preparation is equally important to ensure testimony is clear and persuasive.
  4. Outcomes and Next Steps Hearing officers issue a written decision based on the evidence presented. Their rulings may uphold the school’s position, require modifications to the IEP, or mandate additional services. Both parties have the right to appeal if they disagree with the decision.

Navigating a hearing requires meticulous preparation and a commitment to transparency. By focusing on data, maintaining thorough records, and emphasizing collaboration, school districts can ensure they are well-prepared for the process.

The Critical Role of IEPs in Due Process

Individualized Education Programs (IEPs) are the cornerstone of special education, detailing the services and accommodations a student needs to thrive. They are also pivotal in due process hearings, as they serve as both a blueprint and a legal document.

  1. Precise Documentation Matters An IEP isn’t just a plan—it’s a contract. When disputes arise, the accuracy and completeness of this documentation can significantly impact the outcome. Schools must ensure every meeting, decision, and adjustment is properly recorded.
  2. Common IEP Challenges Disputes often stem from disagreements about the IEP’s implementation, adequacy, or alignment with the student’s needs. For example, a family might argue that an IEP lacks sufficient services for their child’s progress, while the school maintains it meets all legal requirements.
  3. Legal Recourse and Protections If parents believe an IEP fails to provide a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE), they can use the due process system to seek changes. This might include adjustments to the IEP or compensatory services to address any gaps.
  4. Building Stronger IEPs Preventing disputes starts with proactive communication and collaboration during the IEP development process. Involving parents as equal partners and basing decisions on solid data can reduce the likelihood of conflicts.

The IEP is more than a document—it’s a lifeline for ensuring students receive the education they deserve.

By prioritizing clarity, collaboration, and compliance, schools can better support students and minimize disputes.

Common Themes and Lessons from Due Process Cases

While each due process case is unique, recurring themes offer valuable insights into how schools and families can navigate disputes effectively. Angela Smagula, an experienced education attorney, highlights key takeaways from her extensive work in this area.

  1. Placement Disputes Disagreements over whether a student’s needs are best met in-district or out-of-district often arise. Angela emphasizes the importance of data-driven decisions: 

“The law requires that students be educated in the least restrictive environment possible. However, every child’s needs are unique, and determining the right placement often depends on careful evaluation and documentation”​.

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

  1. IEP Implementation Challenges Another frequent issue involves whether a school has followed the IEP as written. Angela notes, “The IEP is a legal document. Schools must demonstrate they’re providing FAPE in the least restrictive environment, with documented, effective progress”​. Thorough documentation and regular communication with families are critical in addressing these concerns.
  2. The Role of Collaboration Angela underscores the value of proactive collaboration: 

“Sometimes, disagreements can be resolved at the team meeting or mediation level, avoiding the need for a full hearing”​. 

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

Building trust and maintaining open communication with families are essential for preventing conflicts.

By focusing on transparency, strong documentation, and a willingness to work collaboratively, schools can navigate disputes more effectively and support students’ success.

What to Expect from Due Process Lawsuit Settlements

When due process hearings result in findings against a school district, settlements often follow to resolve disputes. These settlements aim to provide students with the services they need while addressing concerns raised by families. Angela Smagula provides key insights into the settlement process and its implications.

“Sometimes filing a hearing request is the only way to get someone’s attention, but that doesn’t mean you’ll definitely go to hearing. It’s very time-consuming and stressful for both parties, so these collaborative opportunities are key”

– Angela Smagula

  1. The Process and Timeline Due process settlements can include compensatory services, additional evaluations, or changes in placement. Angela explains, “Settlements are designed to resolve issues fairly and efficiently. While timelines vary, the goal is to provide timely resolutions to disputes so students’ education isn’t disrupted unnecessarily”​.
  2. Financial and Educational Implications Settlements can carry financial costs, such as funding for private placements or additional resources. However, Angela highlights the broader implications: “At the end of the day, the focus should remain on what’s in the best interest of the child, ensuring they receive the services they’re entitled to under the law”​.
  3. Preparing for Settlements School administrators can better navigate settlements by:
  • Proactively addressing disputes before they escalate.
  • Maintaining thorough documentation of IEP implementation and progress data.
  • Engaging in mediation or resolution meetings with a collaborative mindset.

By understanding the settlement process and its potential outcomes, districts can approach disputes with greater clarity and focus, ensuring that resolutions ultimately benefit the student.

Proactive Strategies to Prevent Due Process Conflicts

Due process hearings can be time-consuming, stressful, and expensive for all involved. However, school districts and parents can take proactive steps to minimize conflicts and foster collaborative relationships.

“I always emphasize telling the truth. You’re testifying under oath. You must be honest. And at the same time, you must also provide the information that the hearing officer needs to hear with regard to why you’re taking a position that’s counter to the family. It can’t just be your opinion. It has to have supportive evidence. And you have to have data. So; data, data, data”​!

– Angela Buchanan Smagula

  1. Build Strong Parent-School Relationships Angela Smagula emphasizes the importance of trust: “Parents want the best for their kids, and schools want to provide what’s best for students. If you approach the relationship with good intentions, it can help prevent conflicts from escalating”​. Open communication and mutual respect lay the foundation for effective partnerships.
  2. Emphasize Documentation Accurate and thorough documentation is crucial. “It doesn’t matter if they say yes or no, it’s more important that you made the offer in writing. Documentation ensures clarity and accountability, particularly in contentious situations,” Angela advises​.
  3. Focus on Data-Driven Decisions Angela highlights the value of data in resolving disagreements: “Parents will feel how they feel, and schools must demonstrate why their position is valid through evidence. Data, data, data—having it is essential to address concerns effectively”​.
  4. Leverage Mediation and Resolution Meetings Before proceeding to a hearing, schools and parents should explore mediation. Angela notes that mediation can be a less adversarial and more efficient way to resolve disputes, saving time and resources for all parties​.

By taking these proactive steps, schools and parents can work together to address issues early, reducing the need for formal due process hearings and focusing on what matters most—the student’s success.

Frequently Asked Questions About Due Process in Special Education

1. What is the definition of due process in special education?

Due process is a legal mechanism that allows parents and guardians to challenge decisions made by schools regarding their child’s Individualized Education Program (IEP) or 504 Plan. It ensures that the rights of students with disabilities are protected and that disagreements are resolved fairly.

2. What is the purpose of due process in teaching?

The purpose of due process is to ensure that all students, particularly those with disabilities, have access to a Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE). It provides a structured process to resolve disputes between parents and school districts about educational placements, services, or supports.

3. What are the five steps of due process?

While the exact process may vary by state, the general steps include:

  1. Filing a written complaint detailing the issues and desired remedies.
  2. Participating in a resolution meeting or mediation to attempt an agreement.
  3. Preparing for a hearing by gathering evidence and identifying witnesses.
  4. Presenting the case to a neutral hearing officer during a due process hearing.
  5. Receiving a written decision and, if necessary, appealing the outcome.

4. What is due process in simple terms?

Due process ensures fairness. It provides a formal way for parents and schools to resolve disagreements about a child’s education through meetings, hearings, and, if necessary, legal rulings.

5. What happens if a parent or school disagrees with the hearing officer’s decision?

Either party can appeal the hearing officer’s decision to a state or federal court. This additional layer of review ensures that the decision is consistent with both federal and state laws governing special education.

6. How can schools and parents prevent due process conflicts?

Preventing conflicts starts with open communication and collaboration. Schools should involve parents as equal partners in developing IEPs, maintain thorough documentation, and focus on data-driven decisions to address concerns early and effectively.

Key Takeaways and Future Trends in Special Education Due Process

Navigating due process in special education requires a blend of preparation, collaboration, and a commitment to ensuring students’ rights are upheld. Angela Smagula’s insights underscore the importance of documentation, communication, and a focus on student progress as the cornerstones of effective dispute resolution.

Key Takeaways:

  • Education as a Right: The foundational principle that education is a right, not a privilege, should guide every decision schools make​.
  • Preparation is Critical: “When preparing for a hearing, ensure your documentation is thorough, your data is clear, and your position is evidence-based,” Angela advises​.
  • Collaboration Over Conflict: Proactive communication and early resolution efforts can reduce the need for adversarial hearings, benefiting everyone involved.

Looking Ahead Angela highlights that due process will continue to evolve as educational needs change: “Future trends in special education will likely focus on more streamlined processes and greater emphasis on equity and inclusion, ensuring all students receive the support they need to thrive”​. School districts that prioritize transparency and adaptability will be well-positioned to meet these challenges.


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Marisha (00:01)

Hello there and welcome to the podcast. I'm really excited to have Angela Buchanan-Smogula with us today.

She is a founding partner of Khan and Smigula, a two-woman law firm specializing primarily in education law. And they represent a variety of schools, including public schools, which is where most of our audience kind of lives. But she also co-hosts a podcast that focuses on special education. It's called a special education teacher, administrator, and lawyer walk into a bar, all you ever wanted to know about special education.

So that is another amazing resource. And I'll link to the podcast in the show notes so you can find out more. this quick bio doesn't do Angela justice at all. So Angela, would you mind telling us just a little bit about your story? What led you to specialize in working with?

like in education law and a little bit of your journey there before we dive into all things due process.

Angela Smagula (01:05)

Sure.

Yeah, sure, no

problem. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. My entrance into special education law sort of takes a securitas route. I went to law school after working in publishing, actually, and then didn't take any administrative law classes, didn't take any education law classes, didn't even know that I was aware of special education from volunteering.

in my high school with students with special needs. But other than that, I sort of wasn't aware of it at all. And then I was a big ticket litigator in Boston for a number of years and ended up leaving that after having my first kiddo and went to work for a municipality, the city of Newton in Massachusetts. And through working there, that city's law

office was big enough that they represented everyone in the city, so they didn't have any outside representation, and that included the Newton Public Schools, which is a giant school system. It's the third largest school system in Massachusetts. And through that, I started doing education work and learning about special education and discipline and all the stuff that goes along with it, and I loved it. Really, it became...

sort of my life work in terms of focusing on sort of the grassroots nature of it from the school side. And that's kind of how it went. And the podcast that I have that you mentioned, and I appreciate that, and I hope people listen to, are two people that are much more knowledgeable than me actually about special education, an administrator and a teacher, friends of mine now through work.

And through that we've sort of carried on and in opening my own practice, part of what we do for schools is represent them with regards to special education. And that doesn't only include due process, which we're gonna talk about today. It also includes sort of like day to day work and guidance and being a thought partner. And the districts that I represent, I know it can be contentious between families and school districts.

And as a litigator, I don't mind that. But at the end of the day, the idea is to work collaboratively and assume good intentions. Parents want the best for their kid. School districts that are implementing special education want to do what they think is best for their students. And so if you go in with sort of that view, I think it's helpful.

Marisha (03:35)

Yeah, I love that you mentioned that because that has been a common thread in our interviews is that like we all want what's best for students. Like we don't become special education administrators to become rich and famous. Like there's definitely a mission behind that. And parents obviously want what's best for our kids. it's just figuring out sometimes it doesn't connect quite right, but that is the ultimate.

Angela Smagula (03:48)

Correct.

Marisha (04:00)

goal, which makes this probably a nicer area of the law to navigate potentially. I don't know.

Angela Smagula (04:08)

Yeah,

well, what I often equated to is like a marriage. So a public school system implementing special education for a student is, you know, K through 12 or potentially K through 22. And that's you have to work with people despite having potentially disagreements or having to come to some sort of negotiated collaborative agreement along the way. Sometimes it's going well and sometimes it's not. But it's it is a relationship.

that lasts sometimes longer than some marriages. So you need to be aware of that, and I think people are, and I think lawyers that become involved, either on the parent side or the school side, also need to be aware of that. It's not a situation where you're gonna burn it to the ground in order to win. That's not really the goal.

Marisha (04:53)

we don't want to burn our public schools to the ground. Well, maybe some of us do. I don't know. Okay, but that's a super helpful introduction.

Angela Smagula (04:56)

you

Marisha (05:04)

And then, so let's transition to chatting a little bit more about due process. So can we start with a super broad overview of kind of what due process entails within the context of special education? I know that's a big question, so you can kind of hone it in however you think makes the most sense, but.

Angela Smagula (05:24)

Right, so

due process is a legal procedure that, it's sort of the umbrella legal procedure that allows parents and guardians to challenge decisions that are made by schools regarding their child's IEP or their child's 504. And the reason due process is available, and you'll hear about due process in all sort of walks of life, but the reason it's here is that you're,

The education is a right and not a privilege. So if you have a right to something, like you have the right to free speech, you have the right to education, then along with that comes due process that allows you to engage in a way to make sure that you have that right. And so the IDEA, which is the governing, you know, statute with regard to special education, specifically IEPs,

has, allows for that, so speaks to that. So that, you know, when you have the, when education is a right and not a privilege, then you're entitled to certain things. And so that you can exercise your entitlement to that through the due process system. Does that make sense?

Marisha (06:35)

Yeah, that makes sense. so the laws are intended to protect our students to make sure that they have that right. like, how do the... So how are the laws set up to help enforce that?

Angela Smagula (06:51)

So the laws are set up to help enforce that because the IDEA requires all of the states to follow their statutory framework with regard to due process hearings. And so you have an outlet when you are dissatisfied with the school with regard to accommodations and services, not following the IEP, not providing an appropriate placement, not providing FAPE, not addressing behavioral or disciplinary issues appropriately.

When you have a disagreement with the school, the school doesn't just get to say, sorry, we're right. So it allows for another level of review. And so the states all have their own regulations. In Massachusetts, it's the CMR. And so each state has regulations that further implement what the IDA proposes or mandates in terms of due process. what that looks like, and states can always do more.

know, federal law lays sort of like the baseline of what must be done. So the IDA lays the baseline of what must be done. And then states can always do more. They cannot do less. And so as like the baseline, the IDA mandates that states set up administrative hearings. So it's usually under like the administrative setup within that state. hearings are held.

due process hearings are held with a third party, a hearing officer, depending on what it's called state by state, that then hears evidence. So it's not just opinion, it's not just, don't think this is right, it's not just the school doesn't get to say this is all we can afford, the family doesn't get to say my kid is, you know, requires this because I want it, right? It's based on witness testimony and evidence.

and a third party will determine, depending on what the issue is, but at the end of the day, you know, that a student is making effective progress in the least restrictive environment and receiving a FAPE, that's like the umbrella issue that can be brought to a hearing, but within that are lots of smaller issues that can also be brought.

Marisha (08:56)

And what are some examples of those smaller issues?

Angela Smagula (09:00)

So

it can be a sort of a number of things. It can be concerning whether the school is actually implementing the IEP as written. The IEP is a contract, serves as a legal document. And of course, schools are mandated to provide a free and appropriate education in the least restrictive environment. And they need to provide enough specialized instruction for the student to be making documented effective progress. So.

Any of those issues can be brought as narrow as you want or as broad as you want. Often placement is an issue. So the law requires that students are educated in as inclusive environment as possible, right? Because in the old days, not that long ago, special education students were siloed in separate classrooms. And so the law changed that.

Every child is unique and individual, right? And so what they need is also unique and individual. And so depending on their profile, their disability and their need for specialized instruction, where they fall on the continuum of inclusivity can be up for debate. There can be a difference of opinion about that. And that turns on sort of where your placement is. So that's often a big issue. There's also issues as it relates to discipline. If you listen to my podcast, that's...

one area that I can yammer on about forever, but special education students have the same rights as regular education students plus more. And so often there can be disagreements that can come to hearing about that as well. Essentially, anything that has to do with the creation and implementation of 504s or IEPs are

are gonna be fair game within a certain timeframe. So the statute of limitations, which is a limit on how long back you can go for claims. So like if I have a eighth grader that I'm concerned about in terms of making effective progress, documented effective progress in their program, I can't go back to fifth grade and talk about it in terms of.

evidence for purposes of eighth grade. I can go back that far historically and you'll see that because it's, you know, again a long story. It's a child's life. But in terms of actual claims and compensation for those claims, and by compensation I don't mean money, I mean placement or services or additional requirements that the school district has to do, it can only go back two years from the date that you file.

So if you have a concern about an implementation of your student's IEP and you're sitting in the fall of sixth grade, you shouldn't wait till high school to bring that claim. Does that make sense?

Marisha (11:50)

Yeah, so if a parent is having a concern, they need to bring it up within those two years. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. then, so what are the steps involved? because I'm, and we're looking at this from the perspective of...

Angela Smagula (11:57)

Correct.

Marisha (12:07)

the school district, like the special education administrators or school administrators. And so they wouldn't be filing complaints, but just to give them, in case they're curious about that process, what are the steps involved in filing a complaint and what does that typically look like?

Angela Smagula (12:25)

So sometimes school districts do file complaints, for sure. But what it looks like for either party to file a complaint is you do not have to have a lawyer to file a complaint. So parents can file, it's Latin called pro se, which means they file for themselves. Districts can also file pro se, but they often have lawyers available to them.

You have to file an actual written document that identifies the complaint that you're making, the name of the child, the name of the school district, and the remedy that you're looking for. And it doesn't have to be, you know, the best thing ever written. It doesn't have to include

every single thing that you're concerned about, but it has to include an identification of issues that you want the hearing officer to decide. And even if a parent is writing something pro se, the hearing officer will get the parties together, usually telephonically, and make sure that everyone's on the same page about what the issues are. And then there can be

motion practice about excluding issues that may not fall within the jurisdiction of the BSEA or that's sorry, that's the administrative hearing of the Bureau of Special Education Appeals. That's what it's called in Massachusetts. But any sort of administrative hearing will have areas of jurisdiction as it relates to what I said about special education being implemented pursuant to an IEP or a 504. And then

The school district has the opportunity to write a hearing response. Again, it doesn't have to be your entire argument because, again, the hearing officer is not going to make any decisions based on those filings. The hearing officer is going to make a decision on a hearing, at a hearing with actual live testimony and actual documentary evidence. But the filings are necessary to identify the players, the issues, the time frame.

all that kind of good stuff. And then, I'm sort of jumping ahead, but just to put a bookend on it, when you have an IEP due process hearing, can go over a number of days, and then the hearing officer can sort of find the following things. The hearing officer can find that the school district's proposed IEP or the issues surrounding the IEP are appropriate and deny the family's request for changes or more services.

The hearing officer can find that the school district's proposed IEP is not appropriate and actually tell the school district what changes need to be made. So amend the IEP. And then the hearing officer may find that the school district's proposed IEP is not appropriate and then order additional services, order a different placement, and legally make a decision that the school district has to follow.

Marisha (15:26)

Yeah, that makes sense. So they're either deciding if it's appropriate or not. And if it's not appropriate, it may result in updating the IEP or setting up additional services or just remediation for whatever that is.

Angela Smagula (15:40)

Correct, so compensatory

services or ordering a different placement. Like oftentimes the decisions are turned on the school district saying we're able to provide FAPE in the least restrictive environment in our public school. And a parent, for example, is saying like, no, my student needs an out of district placement in a special education school. And the hearing officer has the ability to order that based on the evidence. So it has become like a very

Marisha (15:56)

I see.

Perfect.

Angela Smagula (16:08)

What's the best way to put this? Steeped in statutes and regulations. So it's become a very legal process that often requires lawyers, which is great for people like me, maybe not so great overall for families and special educators. I always say when I'm prepping my witnesses, no one went into education to like,

prep with Angela and testify at trial. Like that's not why people go into special education and families trying to get services for their students. It's not their goal to also spend time and energy testifying about why they need it. no one's happy except for me, the lawyer, right? But so, you know, but because again, education is a right and not a privilege, it inherently involves the government and the state.

mandating that certain processes are followed. And when that happens and it becomes codified in statute or regulation or law, you know, it inherently requires process that often requires attorneys.

Marisha (17:15)

Yeah. Yeah. So do you, do you have any idea how many times someone files pro-save? Like does that, cause I guess you're allowed to do it, but do those filings tend to go well? Like what is a lawyer eventually or attorney eventually roped in?

Angela Smagula (17:39)

So there are cases that go all the way to decision that are pro se, for sure. What I would say is that it can be an, like the special education process, even attending team meetings is an overwhelming process for families. And again, it's because it's, the devil is in the details, right? So the school district.

Marisha (17:55)

Yes, absolutely.

Angela Smagula (18:03)

has certain responsibilities that they need to follow. They need to provide, they need to demonstrate effective progress in the least restrictive environment. The school district's view of effective progress is not the best possible thing ever. That's not what the law requires. And so a family member might think, I want the best possible thing required. So there's going to be inherently some...

potential conflict in that. And then in terms of like what is being offered as specialized instruction, I mean, it's just, and with the new IEP, you know, it's just very, it can be very overwhelming. So take that and multiply it by a hundred when you go to hearing, right? Because the hearing rules require a list of witnesses, like a list of documents, the ability to examine and cross examine witnesses. So,

The law allows for parents to go pro se, and actually the way that administrative hearings are set up, is some consideration made for pro se parents, But in my opinion, you're better served by having an attorney to work on your behalf, but of course then that becomes like a financial issue. Now.

Under special education law, this is one of the few statutes that exist that allows for fee shifting. And what that means is if you are the prevailing party at hearing, i.e. you win the majority of the claims, then the school district has to pay for your legal fees. So they do that to allow, you know, to open the door for more opportunities because you don't want the concept of

having to pay for a lawyer restrict you exercising your rights, but you have to win. So if you don't win, then you're still on the hook for your legal fees. So it can be sort of complicated in that

Marisha (19:55)

Thank

Yeah, yeah. do you feel like, like do attorneys in general, do they have a good, I'm just curious, like if a parent brings a case, is it often super clear of like, yeah, this will, like the hearing officer will, like we think this will be the hearing officer's decision. Like, is it easy to predict or is it less clear?

I don't know, does that question make sense?

Angela Smagula (20:31)

It does make sense. what I would say is that it's not. And because there's so many factors and both parties have dug in to their view that they're taking it to a third party. And usually there's going to be some opportunity. There is opportunity to resolve it short of a hearing. So if you actually are ending up at a hearing,

Marisha (20:35)

Okay, because there's so many factors, right?

Angela Smagula (20:57)

then I think it's not straightforward. And I think it's not a slam dunk for either side. Otherwise it would have been resolved short of that. That's not to say someone's not right and someone's not wrong. It's just that it's complicated and nuanced. prior to filing a hearing request for due process purposes, there's lots of opportunities within the law to resolve it short of that. And that looks like a

couple of things. You can do that at the team meeting level. You can do that at mediation level, like departments of eds in all states offer mediation that's free related to the due process within that state. So you can go to mediation. Also, when you file a hearing request, the law requires

the district and the parents to have a resolution meeting unless it's waived. So that's another opportunity without lawyers for people to come together and try and resolve the issue. Sometimes the threat of litigation by a family is enough for a school district to move forward. So there are lots of opportunities for these two parties to come to some sort of resolution.

short of a hearing.

Marisha (22:14)

Yeah, that makes sense. And then, gosh, there's five million directions we could take this. So I think my last question, just from your perspective, so let's say that a school district, like what tips or strategies or like what advice would you share with a school district administrator who is maybe navigating, like let's pretend it's their first

due process or just like tips for due process in general, like what would you say to district administrators in terms of maybe a couple like top considerations?

Angela Smagula (22:52)

So what I would say to district administrators is to involve their council, if they can, as early as possible. In terms of like, if you think there's concerns or sometimes if there's a disagreement about services and you're wondering sort of where to land on it. To partner with other administrators in your district that have had experience with that.

or that have had experience with the family, and partner with your counsel, if you can, to determine sort of what the issue is and can it be resolved or can we come to some sort of agreement prior to it getting to litigation, prior to a filing. Now, other tips and advice around that is that, you know, once there is a filing, we want to make sure from the school perspective that we have all our ducks in a row.

Like is our paperwork good? Are there procedural errors that are gonna be problematic for us or that are harmless? Like we wanna be able to go to hearing with the best possible position. And so what that means is listening to what the families have to say and understanding their position and not just saying they're wrong because you want them to be wrong or because you think you're right. So you have to have the ability to be thoughtful and flexible to the extent that it makes sense. And then,

from my perspective, and you would pick this up when you listen to my podcast and my two former colleagues now friends, is like, be prepared. So I prepare my special education administrators and teachers so that they understand what is important in terms of evidence and what is important in terms of the issues at hand.

I always emphasize telling the truth. You're testifying under oath. You must be honest. And at the same time, you must also provide the information that the hearing officer needs to hear with regard to why you're taking a position that's counter to the family. It can't just be that, like, that's what you think, right? It has to have evidence in support of that. And you have to have data. So data, data, data.

Like the data is most important for purposes of evidence because parents will feel how they feel and they will express concerns about progress, about programming, about instruction. And our responsibility from the school side is to be able to demonstrate and quell their concerns with data. And then if we disagree, we disagree.

And so that's why it's important not to sort of get bogged down in personalities or in long-term difficulties or historical difficulties. It's really about the data and the support for why we think this service is appropriate, why we think this placement is appropriate, and why we're defending that, short of saying the kid needs something different.

And at the end of the day, sometimes people are like, what's the big deal? Well, there's a financial component to it. But obviously, also, it's like, what is in the best interest of the child? And out of district placement is inherently a more restrictive setting. For some kids, that's fape. For some kids, it's not fape. And families and school districts can disagree on that.

Marisha (26:24)

Yeah, and that's the part where it gets all, that's where it gets so intricate because what's faked for one student isn't for the other. But then it really, that's why it does come down to the data of like, we seeing that progress? And yeah.

Have that evidence. That's one big takeaway.

Angela Smagula (26:43)

That's,

you know, like my clients will tell you that I'm all about documentation and all about data. And documentation is important too, again, as it goes to sort of procedural due process. So procedural due process is about following what the regulations and the statutes say in terms of what you have to do. You know this, everyone knows this, there's X number of days that you have to do an evaluation by when you get the consent and there's...

X number of days that you're allowed to discipline someone until you have to add more, you know, process to that. And if you, if you, if you don't have, if you make procedural errors, you know, the question becomes like, does that, is that a negative, enough of a negative impact on the student that something, that changes need to be made. So it's very important to make sure that you're following all the procedures because sometimes it's harmless error, but sometimes it's not.

and you want to be in the best position that you can be. And again, that process is there because that's what the student is entitled to, right? There's a reason you get handwritten notes if you're going to get the IEP 10 days later, you know? And there's a reason why you have 30 days to respond to the IEP. Like these are all, they're not just like there to make everyone's life difficult. They're there because...

Go back to like my friend put it on a t-shirt for me. Education is a right and not a privilege. And when you know that and you think about that, that should guide sort of all the decisions that you're making in terms of following all the rules and regulations.

Marisha (28:16)

That's great. And do you ever work with districts on, because it's simple when you boil it down like that. Just make sure you have your documentation and your data and keep the student's best interest in mind and thinking about education being a right.

But I think the implementation of this gets challenging, like in a school setting, in an imperfect world where we have staffing issues and funding issues and all of that. So have you, gosh, and this would probably be a whole other podcast too, but I guess I'll keep it simple. Like, do you ever work with districts in being more proactive in setting up those types of things or like auditing their?

current systems and processes or anything like that or no.

Angela Smagula (28:59)

Yes, so like,

you know, the state will do an audit on that as well when they do the state audit and they'll pick up on those things. But yes, I mean, we do a lot of, I do a lot of work around that and it's often sort of like learning by doing. So like a good example of that is, you know, when you offer something verbally in a meeting or in a conversation and then you don't document it anywhere. And then they later say like, I don't ever remember that. And they might not.

Marisha (29:03)

Yeah.

Angela Smagula (29:25)

remember that, right? But you need to document it so that you have it. it doesn't actually what I often say, one of my catchphrases is it doesn't really matter what the answer is. Like if you're asking for consent, you have to do it in writing. And it doesn't matter if they say yes or no, actually, it's more important that you that you made the offer in writing, because later we're going to have a disagreement about it. And we're going to want to be able to demonstrate that we for procedural purposes that we that we asked for consent.

that we made that offer, we heard them say that they want an evaluation, and that we responded, right? I can't tell you like how many conversations and disagreements I've had where they say they offered it, but there's no evidence of it. And the family doesn't remember. And it may well not be, and they deny it, and they say that it was never offered. And it may well be that they don't actually have a real memory of that.

because again, it's a stressful environment, especially if it's sort of contentious. So it's really important to document things and the answer almost doesn't matter.

Marisha (30:25)

Yeah, that's great. So I think we can. This was super helpful. I really appreciate. I know these questions were a little tricky and super broad. There's so many areas to dive into with this, but I feel like you did a really nice job of breaking things down and making them a little bit more digestible. So thank you. And then so if district administrators want to kind of learn more about.

Angela Smagula (30:39)

I'm so glad.

Marisha (30:48)

what you do, well, definitely share the link to the podcast. But is there, and we have the link to your practice website as well, or your law firm. Is there anywhere else you would want to send administrators?

Angela Smagula (31:01)

Yeah, mean, so I would recommend, shamelessly recommend listening to the podcast. There's a lot of episodes. I mean, we're on season, I think we're in season four, but you can go through the episodes and click on what you want and you can listen to them sort of like by interest. There's a lot of, mean, because we have an administrator and a teacher, like a very experienced administrator and a very experienced teacher, now administrator, I mean, multiple, multiple decades.

Marisha (31:07)

great resource.

Angela Smagula (31:28)

There's just a lot of really good specific episodes, like the one, two, threes of IEPs and about FAPE and about evaluations, like very, very specific episodes that I think would be helpful. We get a lot of feedback. Also, when we talk about these issues, like one of my co-hosts often tries to sort of like say directly, like, is helpful to teachers because of X or this is helpful. The takeaway we want you to have is why. So I think it's very, very helpful and informative.

If people have like individual questions that they want to raise with me, they can contact me on my LinkedIn, which I'm happy to have you include. Also, we have email that related to the podcast where people write in questions directed often at me or just in general that's also available to people. I'm happy to and we get like our listeners. It's interesting, like our platform.

indicates like where our listeners are from. And when we first started doing this, we thought it would be sort of very Massachusetts and New England centric, but it's not like we have a massive amount of listeners in like Illinois and a massive amount of listeners in like a town in Kansas. Like we have a lot of listeners and then we also have like international listeners as well, which is interesting too. So I'm happy to respond to any questions and I can provide you with the.

the email address that you can put in your show notes if that's helpful.

Marisha (32:49)

Yeah, that would be great. And I also will add a link to your LinkedIn profile. But yeah, so we'll have some great resources in the show notes. They'll be linked in the description for the episode. And yeah, think, is there anything else? I don't want to cut you off. Is there anything else you wanted to close out with or are you feeling?

Angela Smagula (33:09)

Well, I just wanted to say in terms of like the whole continuum of due process, like I did want to mention that if you disagree, if either party disagrees with the hearing officer's written decision and they have to write a decision that's often extremely detailed within a certain number of days, that is appealable in your state according to the regulations in your state, often to either state court.

or federal court, right? And federal court has jurisdiction because of the IDEA, state court has jurisdiction because of the state regs. So that's another layer of due process that's allowed for, for both parties for purposes of if you think they've gotten it, they've gotten it wrong.

Marisha (33:49)

So this could end up being quite a lengthy process.

Angela Smagula (33:54)

It is a lengthy

process. Now, what I will say is that the law requires and the feds have been pretty good on states, specifically Massachusetts, I'm aware of, of making sure that the administrative hearing officers follow their timelines, right? that, so, but it's still, you know, from the day that you file a hearing request, there's going to be extensions, reasonable extensions. There's going to be

a variety of things that that cause things to get delayed. So let's say you file January one. Let's say you have a hearing by the end of February, then they have to generate a decision within 60 days, like you're four months in. Right. And so there is there are like the ability on certain issues and we could do it as another podcast on that for emergency expedited filings. But

You know, it can be that you don't have a decision for months, even in the most efficient of processes. So, yeah, it is time consuming. What I would say again is that like the only person that loves litigation is me. No one else loves it. So, you know, at the end of the day, you know, you want to try and work collaboratively. There's also, I didn't mention, opportunity to work.

Marisha (34:57)

you

Angela Smagula (35:06)

collaboratively short of a hearing decision once you're within the hearing. So for example, in Massachusetts, we have something called a settlement conference that a different person at the agency runs that allows for you, after filing a hearing request, to potentially resolve the case. Also, hearing officers allow for something in Massachusetts and I know in other states called a pre-hearing conference where you can also try and resolve the case. The lawyers can talk to each other and try and resolve the case.

So there's lots of opportunities to do that. Sometimes filing a hearing request is the only way to get someone's attention. That can be true, but that doesn't mean that you're gonna definitely go to hearing. And again, it's very time consuming for both parties. It's very stressful for both parties. It's very expensive for both parties. And at the end of the day, you don't walk away and say like, see you later, bye. Because even if you're placing the student out, like you're still,

monitoring that placement. You're still responsible as a school district for that child's education, even if they're in an out of district placement that you've been told to place them in, or you have decided that you need to place them in. So it's a long standing relationship. Going back to what I said in the beginning, you know, hearings can take a lot out of people, all people, everybody but me, again.

Marisha (36:25)

Thank

Yeah, that was super helpful. Thank you for breaking that down and explaining it in such a clear way. And then, yeah, for anyone listening, thanks for joining us. Definitely check out the show notes for the resources mentioned. And thank you, Angela, for being so generous with your time and expertise. This was great.

Angela Smagula (36:45)

Thank you so much. I really enjoyed it.

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SLP Guide to Collaborating with Teachers

January 28, 2025 by Marisha Leave a Comment

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Welcome to another episode of the SLP Now podcast! We’re continuing the series where we do a deep dive on all things GOALS, and I’m bringing some of the best in our field to join me and share their expertise.

Today, Marisha and Lacee Johnson discuss collaborating with teachers!

In this episode of the SLP Now podcast, Marisha interviews Lacee Johnson, a school-based SLP, about the importance of effective communication with teachers. Lacee shares her journey in the field, emphasizing the impact of teacher collaboration on student success. She discusses various strategies for enhancing communication, including in-services, handouts, and maintaining an open-door policy. Lacee also addresses the challenges SLPs face in building relationships with teachers and offers practical tips for overcoming these obstacles. The conversation highlights the significance of flexibility, understanding, and proactive communication in fostering a supportive educational environment for students with speech and language needs.

Takeaways from This Episode

  • Lacee Johnson emphasizes the importance of teacher communication in maximizing student impact.
  • Starting the school year with an in-service can set the tone for collaboration.
  • Providing handouts and visuals can simplify language strategies for teachers.
  • Building relationships with teachers is key to effective collaboration.
  • Flexibility in communication styles is essential for SLPs.
  • Teachers appreciate when SLPs provide accommodations and strategies for their students.
  • Creating a supportive environment helps both teachers and SLPs succeed.
  • Sharing IEPs at a glance can enhance teacher understanding of student needs.
  • Proactive communication can prevent misunderstandings and improve student outcomes.
  • Experience is the best teacher in navigating school-based SLP roles.


Links and Additional Resources

  • Lacee’s Instagram
  • Speech Me Maybe (Lacee’s Website)
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Marisha (00:01.934)

Hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I'm really excited to have Lacee Johnson with us today. Just a quick intro to Lacee, if you're not already familiar with her. She graduated from Southern Illinois University Carbondale with her master's and that was in 2013 and she's worked primarily in the school settings.

And she also has dabbled in private practice. And she also has an incredible blog and Instagram, all things called Speech Me Maybe. And she also has authored a children's book called Norah's World. So if you recognize her, you might've, that's probably where you're recognizing her from. And then, yeah, so I asked her to join the podcast today.

so we could chat about teacher communication. But before we do that, welcome, Lacee.

Lacee Johnson (01:05.363)

Thank you, thanks for having me. I'm excited to chat about this topic.

Marisha (01:10.038)

Awesome. then I gave you like your bio doesn't do your whole story justice by any means, but do you want to tell us a little bit about like a little bit of your SLP journey and kind of, I don't know if it relates to teacher communication or not. That's okay.

Lacee Johnson (01:15.347)

Thank

Lacee Johnson (01:29.693)

Yeah, yeah, so I'm from Illinois and went to SIUC and upon graduation moved to Nashville where I started working in the schools. And I worked in Nashville a couple of years and then move out here. I met my husband, we moved out here and I've been in the school setting ever since. So I work full time. We have three beautiful children and two golden doodles and I am busy.

ever and wouldn't change it. I love what I do. I love the school setting. I've done private practice as you said and then I've done clinic-based therapy as well and I think the schools are where I feel at home and I love it. I love what I do every day. So I'm excited to share on this topic because I feel it's important and it's not easy.

So I've learned a lot, so I'm excited to share kind of what I do at the school.

Marisha (02:30.188)

Yeah, yeah, and I am partial to the schools also. It's such a cool way to impact students because that's where they spend a third of their lives and being able, like they spent, they might spend 30 minutes or an hour or however long with us a week, but they spend the bulk of the time with teachers. And so this is.

Lacee Johnson (02:35.027)

Yeah.

Marisha (02:52.93)

The teachers are our road to having an even bigger impact and just having a more fulfilling time as a school-based SLP and having a bigger impact. So this is so huge and it can be so impactful. So I'm, yeah, I'm excited to dive into. But what does your teacher communication look like today? Just like a sneak peek at kind of what's, how you're setting things up and how you're using that.

Lacee Johnson (03:04.681)

Thank

Marisha (03:21.94)

maximizing those relationships.

Lacee Johnson (03:24.081)

Yeah, so I feel like over the years I've learned so much about working in the schools and how to be a good school SLP. Every setting is so different. So there's a couple things that I do each year that I feel like set me up for success for the rest of the year. So I always start the year off within the first couple of months with an in-service, kind of like a quick presentation for the staff.

And this can be super quick, know, 15 to 20 minutes presentation for all teachers and admin. And in this slideshow, I like to talk about, I just do a quick refresher on my role and I give them speech milestones to look out for. I give them red flags for language delays and things that they can identify because language is very vague for teachers and it's still, it's hard to identify a kiddo.

that might be struggling with language. And so I give them red flags to look for for each grade level. I touch on fluency and I touch on pragmatic language as well because I feel like some teachers, veteran, new, could all use a quick refresher on our huge scope of practice. And that, I've gotten such good feedback from teachers from that presentation. I also.

I introduce them to lot of acronyms that I use throughout the year because when you're picking kids up for RTI or MTSS or some of your kids are on IEP, it's like teachers don't know who is what and what is what. So I use a lot of acronyms, so I introduce them to, I can explain what those are. And then I also go over how I can help support them.

in the classroom setting and that I'm there for them. yeah, that's a huge thing that I do at the beginning of the year for teachers. And I feel like admin appreciates it as well, just to refresh teachers. And then I also walk them through how to refer a student that they might have concerns with. And that's where I share my Google form with them, you know, the link to

Lacee Johnson (05:40.999)

refer a student, when to refer a student, and kind of like the flow chart, because every school is different, every district is different. So that is a good refresher for incoming teachers or teachers that just need a reminder. Yeah, so that's a main thing. Something else that I love to do is I'm a big Story Champs girl, and narrative language is my jam. And I feel like I...

can meet so many language targets within that, specifically that program. So I introduce that at the staff meeting that I pick one teacher a year to do push-in sessions with. And the only requirement is that you have to have a need for it. And maybe a student already on my caseload or a handful of students that are struggling in story reteller comprehension.

because we all know the classroom is the best environment for our students to apply their knowledge and carry over their knowledge that they've learned in my room. So it serves twofold. The student gets the intervention and the teacher also sees what kind of things I'm doing in my speech room. A lot of teachers don't know we do things similar, similar things to what they might be doing in the classroom.

and they can see how we scaffold for our students and students with communication disorders. So I pick one teacher a year and I always have requests for teachers that want me to do it in their room this year because word travels fast. I have teachers wanting that program so they can do it in their room. So it's just a really cool way to get in the classroom.

you know, get on the ground level with your students and model for the teachers how to work on language targets.

Marisha (07:40.238)

And I love that because that's a way to, cause you would, you pick different teachers every year. And so then you're teaching them the strategies that they can use every year going forward. So that's like a huge impact, really cool. And eventually you'll get to all the teachers, maybe.

Lacee Johnson (07:52.871)

Yes. Yeah, it's huge.

Yeah, I mean, I tried to do K through two, but I even have third, fourth grade teachers really asking like, where did you get this program? And can I borrow it? And things like that. So it's really cool to see that they're open to it. And another thing I love to do is handouts, visuals for teachers. And I make quite a few of these too.

But I love a good handout for a teacher, kind of just to explain language strategies that they could do and break it down to very simplistic steps. And it's not as complicated as it may seem. Because with our students, for speech sounds, feel like you could tell them to enunciate the correct way or model it back for them correctly. But with language, it's a little bit more vague.

So a good handout explaining how to recast appropriate sentence structure or how to model the correct way of saying it is super simple for a teacher to use tomorrow. And it breaks it down to where it doesn't feel as overwhelming as it may seem with kiddos with language impairments. So I usually give them a good handout.

I one. I pick one strategy to focus on and to do it with that student. So I feel like making it very simple and attainable is important. So I love a good handout and I can link those or we can share those at the end if you want to see the specific handouts that I have. Yeah, that teacher's use. And another...

Lacee Johnson (09:51.953)

I think another thing that I feel is important for school based SLPs is to keep an open door and be approachable. I have been at a lot of schools. I think I've worked at six schools now and just being approachable and explaining yourself and your role is so key. And every teacher is going to be different. So you have to figure out, you know, some teachers might prefer email.

Some teachers might prefer a quick chat on their lunch break or during their prep period. And then some teachers might seek you out in your room, which I have a lot and which I prefer. They come into my room and they see my space and kind of we can bounce ideas off of each other and that face-to-face interaction. But every teacher is very different. So you work with all of them. So you have to adapt to how each

person prefers to communicate. So that's super key. And it's a two-way street. Teachers are the best at giving you information and insight on how your student's struggling in the classroom. So the more they can share what themes they're working on or what curriculum they're going to target that week. I know this year we finally have a curriculum where we can access the vocabulary and pre-teach the vocabulary that they're introducing in the classroom.

So if the teacher lets me know that they're on this module or this unit, I can print off the vocabulary list and have that student more prepared for that lesson that they hear in the classroom. It's a two-way street. I think keeping an open dialogue about your students is super important.

Marisha (11:42.902)

Yeah, I love those strategies. And I also had a lot of just kind of going back to the first one that you shared. So quick recap, you talked about doing in-services, doing like collaborating with teachers in creative ways, like picking a teacher a year for like supporting in the classroom, sharing handouts.

Lacee Johnson (11:45.0)

Yeah.

Marisha (12:06.178)

and then keeping that open door, but going back to number one for the in-service, I've had a lot of success with that too, because it's a really effective way. Like they're all sitting there. They're supposed to be paying attention, and it's a way to address everyone at once, which is great. I know that some SLPs struggle with teach like administrators giving them that time during the meetings. And so, like, just because like this is meant to be.

a menu of options. And Lacee, like I'm feeling so inspired. There's, just, I don't know, I bet your teachers just adore you and love working with you. But if you have like, if you're an SLP listening and you have major fear of talking to teachers or like speaking in front of a group, you can work up to that. Like you can use the strategies of picking a teacher to work with at a time.

Lacee Johnson (12:43.904)

well, thank you.

Marisha (13:01.866)

even if your admin is resistant at the beginning, like teachers talk, like Lacee said, word moves fast. Cause I know in my first year, like especially at the beginning of a new year in a new school, it's like pretty quiet. But once they see what you can do, then it's like, it's crazy how much it picks up. So yeah, you don't have to use all the strategies. Like if you aren't able to,

Lacee Johnson (13:06.067)

Yeah. Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (13:20.424)

Yes.

Yes.

Marisha (13:29.132)

speak, then you can have like a series of handouts that break down what Lacey listed that she talked about at the in-service. And then one thing that I like one of my personal favorite strategy is because when it comes and maybe you have this on your list too. I don't know if I cut you off. but one thing that I really like to do because

Lacee Johnson (13:34.537)

Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (13:49.349)

No, no, I don't know.

Marisha (13:54.52)

There's nothing more frustrating than going to an IEP meeting and the teacher is like, I didn't know you were working on that. Or like if we're just not on the same page. And one strategy that I have found to be super helpful is to share an IEP at a glance. So every district that I've been at, there's a way to just like, you select your whole caseload and it just prints those off. But Teachers Pay Teachers has tons of freebies also.

Lacee Johnson (14:17.48)

Yes.

Marisha (14:23.234)

But yeah, so then they, put it in a confidential, like I write confidential on a red folder and it's like a big deal. They sign off that they received it. It lists the student's goals, their accommodations. And so that's my way of checking in with each teacher at the beginning of the school year, just to be like, okay, here are your kiddos who are in speech. Here's what we're working on. Do you have any questions? And that's a,

Lacee Johnson (14:31.123)

Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (14:37.447)

Yes.

Marisha (14:53.026)

And I'm curious how you approach this to Lacee, but for me, that's way to open up like to curriculum based therapy and just connecting with what the students, what we're doing in speech to what's happening in the classroom. So one example, so the teachers then know what their students are working on. And like one group of teachers that I was working with, I think it was second grade.

but they had a professional learning goal to work on math word problems. And so that was their goal. They had to submit evidence that they were implementing strategies and all of that. So I knew they were super motivated. And I was like, and it happened to align really well with the students' goals. And so we identified that as like, OK, that's our focus, at least for the next quarter or whatever.

Lacee Johnson (15:28.649)

Okay.

Marisha (15:48.938)

And every, cause every week they had a different word problem and every week they put that word problem in my box because they're like, we want the documentation that we're collaborating with the SLP. It's like helping us towards our goals. It's helping the students. And so it was like the easiest, most motivated collaboration that I was able to set up. And it all just started with, and I mean, you don't have to have a confidential red IEP folder. but I feel like just that.

Lacee Johnson (15:55.142)

Amazing.

yeah.

Yes.

Marisha (16:17.174)

And it took a little bit of time to like print everything off and distribute it to the teachers. But I feel like there's just like little things that we can do like that, like the in-service, like the handouts, like sharing the EP at a glance that make a really big difference. So anyway, sorry, I went off a little bit on there. But do you do anything like that or do you have anything you want to add or?

Lacee Johnson (16:18.441)

Yep.

Lacee Johnson (16:27.463)

Yes.

Lacee Johnson (16:33.181)

Yeah. Yeah. No.

Lacee Johnson (16:40.349)

That's right. I'll just add that I think teachers really do appreciate that. And I think whenever you can get them that and get the accommodations, I do the same. I do a similar thing with the accommodations folder and even special area teachers like art and music. I go to them as well because our kids are in their classes too. And we have to explain to them that these accommodations are

most of the time universal in every subject a lot of the time and we'd have a conversation about how it might look in the classroom and strategies I've used and I think the less prep work they have to do so like if you know your student is going to need a visual schedule or a first then schedule and you take that and you kind of give that to the teacher like this is what he will need and that student comes in and it's already on their desk or it travels with them or however

I think the teachers are so appreciative to that extra little bit of effort.

Marisha (17:47.102)

And a lot of times they might not know what to do with some of these students. so knowing, like having support with those strategies and all of that is huge. So, yeah.

Lacee Johnson (17:58.985)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of them don't get any training and they'll, you know, they'll just be thrown into the fire a lot of the time. So the more support you can give them those early weeks of school, it's, we reap the benefits. So.

Marisha (18:16.526)

Yeah. Yeah. And that like the initial of like the initial period of like that conversation of going through the IEP at a glance, we won't be able to cover everything obviously, but we can like jot down some notes of like, this strategy would be helpful. This one, this one. And so then we can queue up those handouts and like trickle them out throughout the year, like all the strategy. is there anything that you wanted to add in terms of

Lacee Johnson (18:30.887)

Yeah. Yep. Yep.

Yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

Marisha (18:45.186)

and what your teacher communication collaboration looks like today.

Lacee Johnson (18:50.279)

I think it's much better than what it was when you start. feel like experience is the best teacher. man, I would say the biggest lessons to just to know is kind of what we touched upon. Every teacher is going to be different. Their preferred method of communication is going to be different. So just ebbing and flowing and figuring out what the best way to communicate with each person is key and being flexible.

Marisha (18:52.846)

Thank

Yeah, what lessons have you learned?

Lacee Johnson (19:20.679)

you know, your days are busy. Our jobs are hard, their jobs are hard. We both have a lot of expectations and deadlines and all the things. And just to recognize that the more we can do to fulfill our role and help them, you know, they've got 20 to 30 kids all day, every day. And our kids can be some of the more challenging kids in the classroom. So.

pushing in, just getting in the classroom with them and showing that we're there to support is absolutely key. Yeah, think flexibility is the number one thing as a school SLP that I've learned, you know, is key.

Marisha (20:07.72)

I completely agree. And do you feel like you've had any like, especially challenging experiences that you had to work through?

Lacee Johnson (20:20.059)

I mean, I think as you learn and navigate and become more seasoned, you recognize that, you know, not every teacher is going to be amazing and do all the strategies, right? So if you have a teacher more resistant and, you know, they've always done it a certain way, you can't control everything and you can only do what you can do. So I think...

Just being cognizant of that is key. I know even from district level, you might get a lot of encouragement for teachers to provide some, let's say for articulation, lot of arctic support in the classroom. And I think when it comes from a district level, they are far removed from our day-to-day and they don't see

They might not have caseloads, they might not see what teachers have to handle every day. So their expectations of what a teacher might be able to do in the classroom is quite different of what it may actually look like here. So I'm just thinking, for example, we have a program, our Speech Improvement Program, and it's for students kind of with one to two speech sound errors that might need a little extra support. And they might...

want you to give the teacher a slideshow of speech sounds and the teacher will do some interventions with speech sounds and I feel like it's not always attainable and you have to know your school and your teacher specifically and what you're asking of them because they have umpteenth standards to meet 30 kids you know all in the same room and it's just

can't be expected of them to work on those speech sounds sometimes. Just one example.

Marisha (22:23.81)

Yeah. And I love what you said about like just like being flexible when it feels like teachers are resistant, like, cause we don't always know the full picture. Like what we see isn't, doesn't explain the whole scenario. And I've, I love the analogy of using like sunshine versus wind. I know this sounds really weird, but like if

Lacee Johnson (22:25.598)

Okay.

Lacee Johnson (22:49.609)

Mm-hmm.

Marisha (22:52.48)

If someone has a coat on and our goal is for them to take off the coat, we can like force in there and like try to blow the coat off, but they're just going to hold on tighter. Whereas if we just like shine, and I know this is so silly, but this visual comes up to me like every, cause I've had some challenges with communication. And so I picture this and I'm like, okay, I'm not going to be the wind. I'm just going to try and be the sunshine. I'll be patient and they will eventually take off their coat and be open like

Lacee Johnson (23:09.831)

Yeah. Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (23:19.654)

Yes, I love that.

Marisha (23:22.51)

be more open to working together. And sometimes that looks like working with other teachers first and letting the teachers talk for you. Because that actually happened to me in my first school. There was one teacher and I was like, the students would really benefit from like, just some support in the classroom, but the teacher just did not want me in there. So I worked with the other second grade teachers and then I was like, then she was like, when are you coming to my classroom?

Lacee Johnson (23:51.709)

Exactly.

Marisha (23:52.558)

then just like being creative with how, like how we're sharing the strategies, like maybe, maybe they like handouts aren't the best way. Maybe it is like chatting. Like before lunch or whatever. don't know. Candy always helps too. I'm not above some bribery. but yeah, so that was something that like, that's one big lesson that stood out to me. And you reminded me of.

Lacee Johnson (24:07.421)

Model E.

That's same. Yes.

Lacee Johnson (24:17.435)

Yeah, I agree. I think I try to do that as much as possible. And a big thing that I've learned over the years is to not take it personal if it doesn't work out. You know, nine times out of 10, it's not about you. You know, we don't see the whole picture. We don't know what else is going on. And there are so many expectations put on teachers these days that it's hard. It's very, hard to be a teacher. And so we're here to help.

And that's what I try to do at least. Yeah.

Marisha (24:51.094)

And a lot of times it's like, again, just reiterating, it's not personal. And it's just maybe a misconception or maybe they've had like tricky experiences in the past or like, who knows what it is, but just getting creative, trying different routes and like trying to be that sunshine. But yeah, I love that. And then...

Lacee Johnson (25:04.775)

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (25:13.265)

Yeah, with the sunshine.

Marisha (25:19.628)

Okay, so, I feel like we could talk about this for hours and hours and hours. Like you've got me super inspired now. But I guess we'll start to wrap up. But, we've talked about this a little bit, but what tips do you have for SLPs who are struggling to make this work? And I guess we kind of talked about, okay, like some of the challenging relationship types of things.

Lacee Johnson (25:26.631)

Yeah.

Marisha (25:47.25)

but what if an SLP is listening and it's like, wow, that's great, but my workload is insane or like what other, if you can come think of any other challenges, like what would you say to those SLPs?

Lacee Johnson (26:00.785)

Yeah, I think I've been fortunate to be at a really good school for the past, you know, so many years, but I have been in those schools where it's just, it's just not attainable to do what I do now. So I've been there, but I do think that a couple of things that I've done more recently have been game changers that would be helpful to try. So, and I know not everyone is able to do it, but.

What I like to do is a modified version of the 3.1 model. And it's been a complete game changer for me. And my caseload's pretty busy. I'm here five days a week. our school is big, and I'm constantly busy. But this has been a complete game changer this year. So I've done a modified version. So Mondays are completely blocked off.

for assessing, testing, report writing, paperwork, and collaboration. So this is the day where I'm in the classroom with students completing observations. This is the day where I'm doing story champs interventions. I'm report writing, and I am touching base. I'm free all day. So if I know that my third grade teacher is on prep, this is when I can go have a conversation with her about our upcoming IEP meeting.

I know it's not attainable in every scenario and a lot of SLPs are split between two schools. you know, two days they're here, one, you know, it's in a perfect world. This would be my suggestion to everybody is a version of the 3-1 model. And it's been amazing for me at least. I've done it now for a few years and I don't think I could ever go back. I just don't think it, I think,

you have to allow yourself time to do the parts of your job that aren't face-to-face with students really well or else you're gonna take it home and you're gonna be working all the time and you're gonna get burnt out and you're not gonna be happy in your role and all the things. So this would be my number one tip.

Marisha (28:20.322)

Yeah, and even if an SLP is at multiple schools, you could still have Mondays but have blocks of time at the different schools, or you could alternate Mondays. There's lots of ways. that's just a couple examples of how you could modify it. But where there's a will, there's a way. And I love what you said, too, of like,

Lacee Johnson (28:32.275)

Great. Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (28:40.006)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Marisha (28:47.882)

Sometimes it isn't possible to do everything. so giving ourselves grace and kind of setting mini goals to help us like work towards the things. I think like if you're particularly, if an SLP listening is particularly inspired by one of the ideas, like take some time to implement that. And I think it's, you're inspired for a reason and

Like I think a lot of these strategies have the potential to like decrease our workload over time. Like for example, like doing that in service might be a little scary and it takes a little bit of prep time, but by doing that, might be getting, cause getting inappropriate referrals takes a lot. That's significant addition to our workload.

So implementing that strategy could have like a huge impact on your workload throughout the year. So it's like thinking about, okay, yes, this is an extra thing, but what's the benefit down the road? And yeah, some things might take a little effort upfront, but they'll reduce workload over the long run. So do you have anything you wanted to add?

Lacee Johnson (29:46.515)

subject.

Lacee Johnson (30:01.789)

Yeah, for sure.

I don't know, think that's, I mean, I think that's it. Hopefully I shared all of my.

Ideas, clearly. I really feel like the school is such a good place and you can reach so many students. And I mean the classroom setting and with their teachers, they're in there so much more than they're with us. So the more you can get the teacher on board, the more you can get their buy-in to what you're doing and help carry over, I feel like the more impactful your therapy is gonna be.

Marisha (30:41.302)

Yeah. And then that collaboration will help our students make more progress, maybe like reduce issues that come up along the way. Cause the drama stuff can be hard. Like if, if things are kind of imploding in the classroom, like we often get called in for that too. So if we can be a little more proactive, like everyone's more happier, like the student, the teacher, the parents, us. So yeah, there's.

Lacee Johnson (30:46.93)

Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (30:52.21)

Right.

Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (31:03.561)

from active.

Lacee Johnson (31:08.135)

Yep. Yep.

Marisha (31:10.895)

lots and lots of benefits, these types of strategies. So, I'm not...

Lacee Johnson (31:12.583)

Yeah, for sure.

Marisha (31:18.018)

cool. Well, thank you so much. I loved kind of getting a sneak peek into, you know, what your cause there's so many ways of doing this, but I loved getting to see a little bit of what it looks like. And I know there are tons more strategies and ideas and all of that. So if SLPs are wanting to kind of learn more about what you're doing, what are the best places to find you?

Lacee Johnson (31:28.072)

Yeah.

Lacee Johnson (31:47.209)

So I try to keep up my Instagram pretty often. yeah, thank you. I try and it's busy. And then I try to blog about some of these things too, because I know that working in the schools, it gets a bad rap and not every situation is ideal for sure. But there are some things that can make your life a little bit easier. And that has come with like experience and just finding the right place.

Marisha (31:51.318)

You do a great job.

Lacee Johnson (32:16.201)

So yeah, Instagram, my handle is speechmemaybe and my website is speechmemaybe.com. So that's where I keep all my school SLP fun things.

Marisha (32:29.538)

Love it. And I will share links to the website, Instagram, and all of that in the show notes. You can find that in the episode description. I will also link to, Lacee said she has some free handouts related to what she shared today. So we'll link those in the show notes as well. And yeah, I think that's a wrap.

Lacee Johnson (32:56.273)

Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. This was fun.

Marisha (32:58.158)

Yeah, thank you, Lacee, and I hope everyone has a good rest of their day.

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Special Education Staffing: Expert Guidance for K12 District Administrators

January 20, 2025 by Marisha Leave a Comment

Navigating the complexities of special education staffing presents unique challenges for K12 district administrators. 

While this guide focuses on insights from experts in speech-language pathology (SLP) staffing, the strategies and tools discussed—such as workload management, mentorship programs, and transparent agency partnerships—can be adapted to address broader special education staffing needs, including those of resource teachers, occupational therapists, and other key professionals.

Let’s explore how to address staffing challenges, prevent burnout, and provide the best possible services for students across your district.

We’ve gathered perspectives from:

  • Dayna Sanders, MA, CCC-SLP, founder and CEO of Next Level Speech Therapy, a company specializing in providing high-quality speech-language services for K12 districts.
  • Maren Boothby, MS, CCC-SLP founder and CEO of Boothby Therapy Services, a leading provider of comprehensive staffing solutions and developer of innovative tools like the Data DNA workload calculator.
  • Marisha Mets, host of the Special Ed Leaders Podcast and a respected voice in special education, who facilitated in-depth discussions with Dayna and Maren about key issues in staffing and workload management.

This guide synthesizes their expert advice and actionable insights into a resource tailored for district administrators seeking effective solutions.

Let’s explore strategies and tools to address staffing challenges, prevent burnout, and provide the best possible services for students.

Further Reading:

  • Special Education Staffing: How to Hire an Agency
  • Special Education Staffing: How to Manage SLP Workload

Understanding Special Education Staffing Needs

Effective special education staffing begins with understanding the unique demands of various roles. From speech-language pathologists (SLPs) to special education teachers and occupational therapists, each position plays a vital part in supporting students with disabilities. 

Properly defining roles, complying with caseload regulations, and fostering transparent partnerships are foundational steps toward building a successful staffing strategy.

Defining Roles: Resource Teacher vs. Special Education Teacher

One common question is the distinction between resource teachers and special education teachers. Resource teachers provide supplemental support, helping students meet academic goals through targeted interventions. In contrast, special education teachers manage individualized education programs (IEPs), ensuring compliance and delivering instruction tailored to the needs of students with disabilities.

For other roles, such as occupational therapists and paraprofessionals, the focus often shifts to providing targeted therapeutic services or direct classroom support under the supervision of licensed professionals. Recognizing these distinctions ensures districts allocate resources effectively and comply with federal mandates.

Special Education Caseload Limits by State

Caseload limits, which vary by state, are critical for maintaining compliance and avoiding staff burnout. While some states have strict numerical caps, others assess the workload holistically, considering factors such as the number of IEPs, therapy sessions, and time spent on compliance activities. 

Familiarizing yourself with your state’s regulations across all roles is essential for informed decision-making.

The Importance of Transparent Partnerships with Staffing Agencies

According to Dayna Sanders, transparency is the cornerstone of effective agency-district relationships. Open communication about caseload size, compliance challenges, and specific student needs allows staffing agencies to deliver tailored solutions. By fostering a collaborative partnership, districts can ensure that both students and staff receive the support they need.

“Transparency is huge for us. One of our core values is authenticity. If a district tells us, ‘We have a high needs caseload with a lot of AAC users,’ we’ll work to find the best fit. We wouldn’t place a brand-new person in that role without mentorship and support. Being transparent about your caseload and needs helps us provide the right solutions.”

– Dayna Sanders, MA, CCC-SLP

Best Practices for Staffing Ratios and Workload Management

Effective staffing ratios and workload management are vital to maintaining compliance and supporting both staff and students. 

By leveraging data-driven tools and adopting strategic practices, districts can optimize their resources and foster a sustainable work environment across all roles, including speech-language pathologists (SLPs), occupational therapists (OTs), and special education teachers.

Calculating Special Education Staffing Ratios

Determining appropriate staffing ratios is more than just counting students. It involves analyzing student needs, service delivery models, and compliance requirements. For example:

  • An elementary school with high caseloads of students requiring one-on-one therapy sessions might need a different staffing model for SLPs than for resource teachers managing group interventions.
  • Occupational therapists providing services in multiple schools may require workload adjustments to account for travel time and evaluation tasks.

Expert Tip: Managing Workload Effectively

Maren Boothby, founder of Boothby Therapy Services, developed the Data DNA (Data-Driven Needs Analysis) tool to simplify workload planning. This tool provides districts with precise insights into how time should be allocated, factoring in direct therapy, IEP meetings, evaluations, compliance tasks, and even team duties.

“The great thing is we can take all that data, plug it into our data-driven needs analysis, and put out, ‘Hey, this is what the job looks like. This is the number of hours you need per week. This is the number of hours you need for the year.’” 

— Maren Boothby​, MS, CCC-SLP

Customizing Special Education Workloads

Every district has unique needs, and every staff member has varying levels of experience. For example:

  • Experienced Staff: Can handle complex cases, supervise SLPAs or paraprofessionals, and serve as mentors for new hires.
  • New Hires or Clinical Fellows: May require additional time for training and support, as well as smaller caseloads to build confidence and skills.

By customizing workloads for all roles, including OTs and special education teachers, districts can maximize staff efficiency while preventing burnout.

“The data-driven needs analysis has several standard planning allocations of time built in. For example, we might typically plan 15 minutes to write a progress report that includes a rating scale and a narrative. But if you’re in a school that only requires rating scales, then that could be done in 10 minutes. Or if you’re in a high-needs program with medically fragile kids or kids with autism, you may need more documentation, so you have the ability to customize the planning time.”​

— Maren Boothby​, MS, CCC-SLP

Addressing Special Education Teacher Shortage and Turnover

The shortage and turnover of special education professionals are persistent challenges for K12 districts. 

These issues demand innovative solutions that prioritize recruitment, retention, and comprehensive support for educators across roles, including special education teachers, speech-language pathologists (SLPs), and occupational therapists (OTs).

Current Landscape: Special Education Teacher Shortage 2023

The demand for special education professionals continues to outpace supply. Factors such as limited graduate program enrollment, high burnout rates, and increased demand for specialized services contribute to this ongoing issue. 

Rural and underserved areas face particular challenges in recruiting and retaining qualified candidates.

Understanding Special Education Turnover Rates

Turnover among special education professionals is often driven by burnout, excessive workloads, and lack of support. Addressing these factors requires a district-wide approach that includes mentoring programs, workload management, and fostering a positive work culture.

Mentorship Programs: One Solution to Shortages

Mentorship programs are a powerful tool for addressing shortages across roles. Pairing new hires—such as clinical fellows, SLPAs, or paraprofessionals—with experienced professionals builds confidence, improves skills, and fosters engagement.

Dayna Sanders highlights the critical role mentorship plays in supporting new hires, particularly SLPAs and recent graduates. By providing structured mentorship, districts can help new staff build confidence, develop skills, and stay engaged in their roles.

“We’re putting people in positions that have the clinical knowledge plus a drive to learn the business. Mentorship ensures they are supported as they navigate high-needs caseloads or complex district requirements.” 

— Dayna Sanders, MA, CCC-SLP

Implementing Support Services for Staff

Effective support systems are essential for retaining special education staff and ensuring they can deliver high-quality services. Addressing burnout, customizing support for caseload needs, and fostering a supportive work culture are key to staff satisfaction and student success across roles.

Providing Support Services

Special education teachers and related service providers often face demanding workloads. Offering support services like ongoing training, access to resources, and mental health programs can significantly improve job satisfaction and performance.

Addressing Burnout in Special Education

Burnout remains a major factor driving turnover in special education. Excessive workloads, compliance demands, and high caseloads are common stressors across roles. Districts can reduce these pressures by implementing strategies such as:

  • Streamlining administrative processes to minimize paperwork.
  • Allocating dedicated time for professional development and peer collaboration.
  • Providing manageable caseload sizes and additional resources during peak times.

Tailoring Support to Caseload Needs

Dayna Sanders underscores the importance of addressing unique challenges presented by high-needs caseloads.

“When we know a caseload includes many AAC users or requires intensive compliance work, we prioritize mentorship and additional support. It’s about ensuring staff feel equipped and confident to meet their responsibilities.” 

— Dayna Sanders​, MA, CCC-SLP

Customized support can also help districts handle compliance backlogs or high caseloads. Temporary staffing solutions or hybrid models can ease the workload while ensuring compliance and student needs are met.

Expert Insights on Special Education Staffing Agencies

Partnering with a staffing agency can be an effective way to address resource gaps and provide students with consistent, high-quality support. However, selecting the right agency and structuring a transparent contract are critical steps to a successful partnership.

How to Hire an SLP Staffing Agency

Dayna Sanders offers expert advice on choosing a staffing agency that aligns with district needs. Key considerations include:

  • Experience and Specialization: Look for agencies that specialize in speech-language services and have experience with schools.
  • Transparency: Ensure clear communication about caseload details, service delivery models, and contractual terms.
  • Flexibility: Select an agency that can adapt to your district’s unique requirements, whether through teletherapy, in-person services, or hybrid models.

“Districts need to feel confident that we understand their needs and can deliver solutions. Transparency about caseloads, numbers, and compliance is key to finding the best fit.” 

— Dayna Sanders​, MA, CCC-SLP

Ensuring Transparency in Agency Contracts

Contracts should clearly outline expectations, service terms, and contingency plans. District administrators should ask questions such as:

  • How are staff assigned to caseloads?
  • What support will the agency provide for new or less experienced staff?
  • How will issues be resolved if they arise?

Implementing SLPA and Hybrid Models

For districts struggling to recruit fully licensed professionals, employing speech-language pathology assistants (SLPAs) under supervision or using hybrid models (teletherapy combined with in-person services) can be effective solutions.

Dayna Sanders highlights the importance of clear supervision structures for these models:

 

“Sometimes districts just need supervision for their SLPAs, or they need someone who can provide both remote and in-person services. It’s about finding what works best for their students and staff.”​

— Dayna Sanders​, MA, CCC-SLP

Leveraging Data for Strategic Staffing Decisions

Data-driven tools and strategies are essential for making informed staffing decisions. By leveraging workload analysis tools and using data to optimize resource allocation, districts can improve efficiency, compliance, and staff satisfaction.

Workload Analysis Tools for Special Education

Maren Boothby developed the Data DNA (Data-Driven Needs Analysis) tool to help districts accurately plan staffing needs. This tool accounts for direct therapy, compliance tasks, and caseload complexities, offering administrators a clear picture of workload demands.

“We can take all that data, plug it into our data-driven needs analysis, and show exactly what the job looks like—how many hours are needed per week, what compliance tasks require attention, and more.” 

— Maren Boothby, ​MS, CCC-SLP

Data-Driven Budget and Resource Planning

Strategic staffing begins with understanding your district’s financial and personnel resources. Tools like the Data DNA provide the metrics needed to advocate for budget adjustments, allocate resources effectively, and plan for future needs.

Preventing Special Education Caseload Inefficiencies

Analyzing caseload data helps administrators identify inefficiencies, such as uneven staff distribution or bottlenecks in service delivery. Maren Boothby emphasizes the importance of using data to adjust assignments dynamically:

“The tool lets us identify where resources are being stretched too thin or where extra support can help. It’s not just about numbers—it’s about ensuring every student gets the services they need while supporting staff.”​

— Maren Boothby, ​MS, CCC-SLP

Frequently Asked Questions About Special Education Staffing

1. What is staffing in special education?

Staffing in special education involves recruiting and assigning qualified professionals—such as special education teachers, resource teachers, speech-language pathologists (SLPs), and other related service providers—to meet the needs of students with disabilities. Effective staffing ensures compliance with state and federal regulations while supporting student success.

2. Is there a shortage of special education teachers?

Yes, there is an ongoing shortage of special education teachers, exacerbated by factors like limited graduate program slots, high turnover rates, and increased demand for services. Rural and underserved areas often face the greatest challenges in filling these roles.

3. How do you calculate staffing ratios in special education?

Staffing ratios depend on factors like the number of students on caseloads, their individual needs, and state-specific regulations. Tools like Maren Boothby’s Data DNA can help districts calculate these ratios by analyzing compliance requirements, therapy needs, and other workload factors.

4. What are the key differences between a resource teacher and a special education teacher?

Resource teachers provide targeted academic support and interventions, often focusing on specific subjects or skills. Special education teachers, on the other hand, manage individualized education programs (IEPs) and deliver tailored instruction based on each student’s unique needs.

5. How can mentorship programs help with special education staffing?

Mentorship programs support new hires—such as clinical fellows or speech-language pathology assistants (SLPAs)—by pairing them with experienced staff. This guidance helps build confidence, improve skills, and increase retention rates in districts struggling with staff shortages.

6. What should districts look for in a staffing agency?

Districts should prioritize transparency, flexibility, and specialization when choosing a staffing agency. According to Dayna Sanders, understanding agency processes for assigning staff and providing mentorship is critical for a successful partnership.

7. How can administrators prevent special education teacher burnout?

Preventing burnout involves reducing workloads, providing adequate support systems, and ensuring manageable caseload sizes. Professional development, access to mental health resources, and mentoring are also effective strategies.

8. How do compliance backlogs impact staffing decisions?

Compliance backlogs—such as overdue IEPs or incomplete evaluations—can increase workloads and strain staff. Addressing these issues may require temporary staffing solutions, reallocating resources, or prioritizing tasks to bring the district into compliance.

9. Are hybrid models (teletherapy + in-person) effective for special education?

Yes, hybrid models can provide flexibility for districts with staffing shortages or geographic challenges. These models combine teletherapy with in-person services and often include supervision for SLPAs, ensuring comprehensive student support.

Conclusion

Mastering special education staffing requires a strategic, data-driven approach and a commitment to supporting both students and staff. By leveraging insights from industry experts like Dayna Sanders and Maren Boothby, district administrators can address staffing challenges with confidence.

Key strategies include:

  • Clearly defining roles and caseload limits to meet state and federal requirements.
  • Adopting tools like the Data DNA to manage workloads effectively and plan for resource allocation.
  • Emphasizing transparency and collaboration in partnerships with staffing agencies.
  • Implementing mentorship programs and hybrid service models to mitigate shortages.

By taking these steps, districts can create sustainable staffing solutions that improve student outcomes and reduce turnover among special education staff.

Filed Under: Podcast, Special Ed Leaders Tagged With: district administrators, mentorship programs, SLP caseload ratios, SLPA hybrid models, special education staffing, special education teacher shortage, staffing agency, workload management

The IEP Meeting Process: A Guide for School Districts

December 3, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

The Individualized Education Program (IEP) meeting is a critical event for special education teams, parents, and students. It’s the cornerstone for collaborative planning and individualized instruction. 

In this guide, special education attorney and consultant Ashley Barlow shares insights on running effective, legally compliant, and supportive IEP meetings that align with the student’s needs and foster productive partnerships with families.

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Introduction to IEP Meetings

IEP meetings are not just procedural necessities—they are essential for developing and reviewing a student’s unique educational plan. 

Ashley Barlow emphasizes that the success of these meetings hinges on genuine collaboration between educators and families. The process can seem complex, especially for parents, who often feel overwhelmed by educational jargon and the perceived imbalance of power at the IEP table.

“Parents often feel so affronted when they are offered the opportunity to participate in a meeting. I tell them: ‘You are a vital member of this team, and we want you here to give your perspective on what your child needs.’”

– Ashley Barlow

Understanding the IEP Process and Goals

The IEP process is built around assessing and meeting the unique educational needs of each student with a disability. 

An IEP meeting should involve setting specific, measurable goals tailored to the student’s needs, monitoring progress, and planning necessary accommodations and services. 

According to Barlow, it is essential for all team members, including parents, to have a clear understanding of the IEP’s purpose to create a unified approach toward the student’s success.

“The purpose of IDEA is to prepare students for further education, employment, and independent living. We need to remember that our work isn’t just about meeting today’s goals but about equipping students for the future.”

– Ashley Barlow

Key Steps and Best Practices for IEP Meetings

Effective IEP meetings involve a series of steps that ensure clarity, compliance, and collaboration. Barlow highlights several best practices for running these meetings effectively:

  • Clear Communication: Avoid jargon and explain all terms to ensure that everyone is on the same page.
  • Regular Check-Ins: Foster communication outside of annual reviews to monitor progress and make adjustments as needed.
  • Parental Involvement: Actively encourage and support parent contributions by asking open-ended questions and listening to their insights.

Preparing for an IEP Meeting

Preparation is key for an effective IEP meeting. Both educators and parents should come to the meeting equipped with relevant information and a clear understanding of the student’s needs. 

Barlow recommends using checklists and templates for preparation, which can ensure that nothing important is overlooked.

  • IEP Meeting Checklist: Use a checklist to cover essentials like recent assessments, progress data, and any new concerns or needs.
  • Parental Collaboration: Share templates with parents in advance, such as an “input form,” to encourage them to gather their observations, questions, and goals before the meeting.

“When we ask parents for their input on the goals, we get a better picture of the child. I advise that both sides share what they know—educators have the technical knowledge, while parents have a deep understanding of their child.”

– Ashley Barlow

Check out Ashley’s free IEP Meeting Checklist here:

Conducting an Effective IEP Meeting

The actual meeting should be collaborative, supportive, and focused on setting achievable goals. Barlow offers the following tips:

  • Encourage Open Dialogue: Create a welcoming environment where all team members feel comfortable sharing insights.
  • Focus on the Student’s Strengths: Start with the positive aspects of the child’s performance and growth, then address areas needing support.
  • Data-Driven Decisions: Use recent data and examples to support discussions on goals, accommodations, and services.

“One of the biggest keys to a successful meeting is to make sure everyone knows they are part of a team. The focus should always be on what’s best for the student.”

– Ashley Barlow

IEP Legal and Compliance Requirements

IEP meetings must comply with IDEA’s legal requirements, including the inclusion of all required team members and the provision of “meaningful participation” for parents. 

To avoid litigation risks and ensure legal compliance, Barlow emphasizes the importance of keeping clear, accurate records of all meetings and decisions.

  • Required Team Members: Ensure that each IEP meeting includes a general education teacher, special education teacher, a district representative, and an individual who can interpret evaluation results.
  • Documentation: Keep thorough records of all discussions, decisions, and follow-ups to meet legal obligations.

Building Collaboration and Trust between Educators and Parents

Effective IEP meetings are built on trust and transparency. Ashley Barlow highlights several strategies for creating a collaborative environment:

  • Frequent Communication: Regular updates can prevent misunderstandings and build stronger relationships.
  • Respecting Parent Expertise: Acknowledge parents as experts on their child, encouraging them to share their knowledge openly.
  • Conflict Resolution: Approach conflicts as opportunities to find common ground rather than adversarial disputes. Using “interest-based negotiation” helps uncover the “why” behind each side’s stance, leading to compromise and cooperation.

“Conflict isn’t always bad. When we work through conflict productively, we create better outcomes for the student. I encourage teams to listen to each other’s ‘why’ to find solutions that work.”

– Ashley Barlow

IEP Meeting Resources

For further information, Barlow suggests resources such as:

  • The Collaborative IEP (Ashley Barlow’s consulting and training company)
  • SPED Advocacy Lab (IEP 101 Training): A six-hour course covering IEP documentation, legal knowledge, and collaboration techniques.
  • Special Education Advocacy Podcast: Hosted by Ashley Barlow, offering insights on IEP processes and special education law.

FAQ: Common Questions about the IEP Meeting Process

1. How can schools help parents feel more comfortable and involved in the IEP meeting?

Schools can take several steps to make the process less intimidating. Start by clearly explaining terms, roles, and processes. Providing parents with preparatory materials in advance, such as a list of terms, meeting agendas, or templates for their input, helps them feel more prepared and valued as contributors.

2. What should parents bring to an IEP meeting?

Parents should bring any relevant documents, such as recent evaluations or medical reports, that provide additional context about their child. They may also find it helpful to prepare a list of their observations, goals, and any questions they have about their child’s needs and progress.

3. Who is required to attend an IEP meeting?

IDEA mandates that an IEP meeting include specific team members: a general education teacher, a special education teacher, a district representative, and an individual who can interpret evaluation results. Parents are also essential members of the team and should be encouraged to attend and actively participate.

4. How can school teams and parents handle disagreements during an IEP meeting?

Barlow recommends “interest-based negotiation,” which focuses on understanding each party’s underlying motivations. By exploring the “why” behind each stance, teams can often find compromises that satisfy everyone and maintain a focus on what’s best for the student.

5. What are some best practices for running an efficient and productive IEP meeting?

Efficient IEP meetings are structured around clear communication, data-driven decisions, and open dialogue. Barlow advises beginning with the student’s strengths to create a positive tone and focusing on specific, measurable goals that reflect recent data on the student’s progress.

6. How often should parents and school teams communicate outside of the IEP meeting?

Frequent communication helps prevent misunderstandings and ensures that everyone is updated on the student’s progress. Weekly or monthly updates, depending on the student’s needs, can help parents stay informed and involved.

Conclusion

IEP meetings, when conducted well, serve as powerful tools for student progress and support. By following these best practices, school districts can improve the effectiveness of these meetings, fostering trust with families and enhancing outcomes for students with disabilities. 

Ashley Barlow recommends that districts invest in training for both educators and parents, helping everyone understand the process and the student’s unique needs.


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2025: Current Issues and Best Practices in Special Education

November 26, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

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Welcome to the first episode of our NEW podcast: Special Ed Leaders: Unplugged!

This is the go-to podcast for special education district leadership in K-12 schools. Tune in to gain valuable insights, practical advice, and inspiration to elevate your special education programs and make a lasting impact in your district.

We’re kicking off the season with a guest appearance from Dr David Bateman, a SPED expert with over 30 years in the field.

Special education is evolving rapidly, bringing new challenges and best practices that district leaders need to consider. 

If you’re a special education director or district administrator, this guide is going to help you improve services and reduce legal risks in your district.

We’ll explore insights from Dr. David Bateman, accomplished author, researcher, professor and former due process hearing officer, covering; compliance issues, operational strategies, and emerging trends that shape the future of special education.

Let’s dig in!

Introduction: Why Special Education Matters

In an evolving educational landscape, special education demands continuous adaptation. 

Dr. David Bateman’s extensive experience as a due process hearing officer, author, and advisor underscores the need for proactive, legally sound strategies. 

District leaders play a crucial role in shaping inclusive environments, reducing litigation risks, and providing equitable services.

“In special education there is extensive litigation… I went into SPED to focus on the intricacies of policy, the history, and how we resolve disputes.

– Dr David Bateman, Professor Emeritas, Former Due Process Hearing Officer

Overview of Current Issues in Special Education

Special education faces significant challenges, with compliance and operational efficiency at the forefront. 

Dr. Bateman emphasizes that adhering to legal procedures, such as including the right team members in IEP meetings and documenting all interactions, is crucial. 

Many legal issues stem from minor procedural oversights, which can be avoided through consistent adherence to IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) guidelines.

“Our obligation is to provide an appropriate education. And ‘appropriate’ is defined basically three different ways: First, by following procedures. Second, by making data-driven decisions. Third, by addressing individualized needs.”

– Dr David Bateman, Professor Emeritas, Former Due Process Hearing Officer

Key Takeaways:

  • Follow procedural requirements meticulously, as fair processes lead to fair outcomes.
  • Ensure consistent compliance audits and maintain detailed documentation of all decisions and interactions.
  • Staying updated on IDEA changes is vital; free resources like spedlawblog.com offer accessible information.

Navigating Legal Issues and Compliance in Special Education

Legal compliance remains a central challenge for special education administrators. Districts must ensure they’re up-to-date with the latest legislation and avoid common pitfalls in areas such as IEP meetings and eligibility evaluations. 

According to Dr. Bateman, districts should prioritize regular training sessions, focusing on laws, procedural adherence, and parent engagement to prevent legal disputes.

“There’s a famous phrase in litigation: if it’s not written down, it didn’t happen. Make sure we have really clear documentation… even if you have a conversation with a parent in a hall or in the parking lot, memorialize that in an email follow-up.”

– Dr David Bateman

Best Practices:

  • Conduct periodic compliance audits, documenting all progress to minimize litigation risks.
  • Engage in clear, jargon-free communication with families to foster trust and understanding.
  • Emphasize staff training on IDEA requirements and fair procedures to promote transparency and prevent misunderstandings.

Emerging Trends in Special Education

As education technology advances, special education is seeing a rise in multi-tiered systems of support (MTSS), assistive technology, and more robust behavior management training. 

Dr. Bateman underscores that MTSS, often viewed as an academic tool, is equally beneficial for behavioral support, helping teachers address issues before they escalate. 

Technology provides new tools for supporting students, but its effectiveness depends on regular evaluation.

“MTSS… is wonderful. And we have to think of it not just about academics, because too often we think about it solely as academics. We also have to think about it relating to behaviors and working to help address this.”

– Dr David Bateman

Examples of Emerging Trends:

  • MTSS and Behavioral Supports: Focus on supporting students’ behavioral needs alongside academics.
  • Assistive Technology: Tools like the Proloquo app offer communication support, but schools must monitor effectiveness.
  • Trauma-Informed Education: Increased awareness of trauma’s impact on students has led to specialized training and curriculum adjustments to support affected students.

Best Practices for Developing Effective IEPs

Individualized Education Programs (IEPs) serve as the foundation for addressing students’ unique needs. However, creating legally compliant, effective IEPs can be complex. 

Dr. Bateman advises districts to avoid generic, one-size-fits-all plans and to engage families in the process, ensuring the IEPs reflect each student’s strengths and needs. 

Progress monitoring is essential for adapting IEPs over time.

“I start every single IEP meeting that I attend with the parent. I ask, ‘Tell us about your child.’ Because what that does is it grounds us… We’re not just there for a paperwork compliance document; we’re there to talk about a child who has needs. And it’s amazing what I’ve learned!”

– Dr David Bateman

Strategies for Successful IEPs:

  • Develop clear IEP objectives based on regular assessments and family input.
  • Focus on progress monitoring data to adjust goals, ensuring students are meeting their IEP objectives.
  • Emphasize quality documentation—if it’s not documented, it didn’t happen.

Implementing Effective Interventions and Progress Monitoring

Effective interventions rely on regular, targeted data collection. 

According to Dr. Bateman, many legal challenges arise from inadequate data, as it’s difficult to prove that a student is progressing without it. 

He recommends collecting six to seven data points per grading period, which helps ensure that interventions are working and provides evidence in case of legal disputes.

“If there’s one thing that I could get districts to do… it’s to dramatically increase your progress monitoring data… because the vast majority of lawsuits I’m involved in… if there’s no progress monitoring data, you can’t make informed decisions about what’s going on.”​

– Dr David Bateman

Key Actions:

  • Regularly monitor progress through frequent, short assessments.
  • Adjust interventions based on real-time data, focusing on both academic and behavioral progress.
  • Simplify data collection to fit into daily routines, such as tracking behavior with quick frequency counts.

Addressing Resource Constraints and Staffing Challenges

Special education programs face ongoing issues with staffing shortages and limited funding. Dr. Bateman highlights the high turnover rate among special education teachers and paraprofessionals, leading to inconsistent quality of instruction. 

Resource limitations further complicate compliance and progress monitoring, with districts often lacking funds to fully meet IDEA’s requirements.

“The shortages increase caseloads, cause burnout among staff, and reduce the quality of individualized instruction and support… And then, we’re constantly retraining staff, which impacts consistency.”

– Dr David Bateman

Solutions for Districts:

  • Leverage MTSS to support both general and special education students, reducing referrals to special education.
  • Prioritize Training: Focus professional development on high-impact practices like behavior management.
  • Collaborate with Families: Engaging families in regular communication builds trust, and helps schools address issues with fewer resources.

David Bateman’s Special Education Resources

  1. Dr Bateman’s Website: Consult with David for deeper insights on SPED.
  2. SpedLaw Blog – A blog maintained by Dr. Bateman and Mitch Yell, offering updates on legal issues in special education. This is a free resource focused on compliance and current cases in special education law – Provides professional development resources and training materials, particularly valuable for ongoing training and improving instructional practices .
  3. LEAD IDEA Center – A resource by the American Institutes for Research (AIR), providing resources for training school principals and administrators on IDEA and special education policies. New resources will be available in the spring .
  4. MTSS Center – Provides guidance on implementing Multi-Tiered Systems of Support, which Dr. Bateman emphasizes as crucial for early intervention in both general and special education settings .

FAQ: Key Questions in Special Education Compliance and Best Practices

1. What are the top steps a district can take to reduce litigation risks in special education?

Dr. Bateman emphasizes that districts should focus on three main areas:

  • Follow procedures rigorously, ensuring compliance with IDEA requirements for evaluations, IEP meetings, and documentation.
  • Collect data consistently to monitor student progress and make evidence-based decisions.
  • Communicate transparently with families and avoid jargon to build trust and avoid misunderstandings.

2. How can districts ensure IEPs are both legally compliant and effective?

Start each IEP meeting by centering the conversation on the student’s individual needs rather than focusing solely on paperwork. Dr. Bateman recommends asking families to share insights about their child to ground discussions in the child’s specific needs. Maintaining thorough documentation of each meeting and adjusting IEPs based on consistent progress monitoring are also critical.

3. What data should be collected for progress monitoring?

For meaningful progress monitoring, Dr. Bateman suggests collecting multiple data points (6-7 per grading period). This can include short, frequent assessments that provide a series of snapshots of the student’s progress. Importantly, data should also be used to adjust instruction and interventions in real time to support the student’s needs.

4. How can administrators address staffing shortages in special education?

High turnover and staffing shortages are ongoing challenges. Dr. Bateman advises districts to:

  • Prioritize behavior management training, as it’s often an area where new teachers lack confidence.
  • Use mentorship programs, pairing experienced special education staff with newer educators to ensure consistency in instruction.
  • Collaborate with HR to streamline recruitment and offer incentives to attract and retain qualified staff.

5. What is MTSS, and how can it benefit special education?

Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) is a framework that provides interventions at increasing levels of intensity to support student needs. Although commonly used for academics, MTSS is also valuable for behavior management. Dr. Bateman recommends integrating MTSS across general and special education to identify students needing support early, potentially reducing special education referrals.

6. How can districts support families in the IEP process?

Building trust with families is crucial. Dr. Bateman advises schools to:

  • Communicate regularly with families and explain all special education terminology clearly.
  • Encourage families to share personal insights about their child, making IEPs more personalized.
  • Keep families updated about their child’s progress and involve them in discussions, especially when adjustments are needed.

Conclusion: Key Takeaways for District Administrators

Dr. Bateman’s insights underscore that a proactive, data-driven approach is essential for special education success. District administrators should focus on compliance, staff training, and family engagement to minimize legal risks and provide effective, individualized support.

Top Recommendations:

  1. Invest in Regular Data Collection: Frequent, targeted assessments provide the foundation for data-driven decisions.
  2. Enhance Family Communication: Transparent communication with families builds trust and mitigates legal risks.
  3. Focus on Multi-Tiered Support: Embrace MTSS to address student needs early and holistically.

By implementing these strategies, districts can foster an inclusive, compliant, and effective environment that supports all students’ growth and minimizes legal issues.


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David Bateman (00:00.398)

Okay, how'd you get that out?

Marisha (00:02.547)

Hello there and welcome to Special Ed Leaders Unplugged. I am really excited for our guest today. We have Dr. David Bateman. He is a principal researcher at the American Institute for Research and Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania. He's a former due process hearing officer for Pennsylvania for hundreds of hearings.

And he uses his knowledge of litigation relating to special education to assist school districts in providing appropriate supports for students with disabilities and to also prevent and recover from due process hearings. So he's a very established author as well. In the show notes, I'll put links to the books and the texts that he's co-authored.

as well as just a wealth of experience. and the people want to hear it from you. So you've clearly had a very extensive career over 30 years in special education in a lot of different roles. So what motivated you to focus on this field and guide schools through these complexities and kind of what led you here and.

David Bateman (01:10.146)

God, yeah, okay.

David Bateman (01:22.2)

Sure. Thank you for the introduction. I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you about it. I went to school to be, my goal was to go to law school. And my dad had told me so many jokes about lawyers that were not positive jokes. My dad was a superintendent of schools.

And told me about, I one of the things he constantly was saying to me about special education was that there was extensive litigation. And so when I told him that I wanted to go into special ed, he said, no, you don't because there's too much litigation. And it's not a positive experience for anyone. I didn't listen to him. So I went into special ed and very quickly, my undergrad major was government and foreign affairs with a minor in Soviet politics.

And what I decided to do is focus on the, I was really interested in the policy aspects of special education. The intricacies of how the first, how the policy was made, the history of this, how we got to where we are, and then how we resolve disputes when, because the law looks at trying to help us identify and provide for kids an appropriate education. The problem is appropriate is in the mind of the beholder.

And that's very tough, despite we've had two Supreme Court cases, one from the 1980s and one from seven years ago, that have sought to clarify this, that it makes it very difficult for school districts and families to understand what's going on. And so I just gradually evolved into this more. As part of my PhD program, I took a lot of classes at the law school at the University of Kansas. My advisor was a lawyer who had a joint appointment between the school of law

the Department of Special Education. And that's in fact why he, I went there and he recruited me for that. And then when I left there, we moved back to the East Coast to be closer to family. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania heard about my legal background and recruited me to be a due process hearing officer. And because I'd done some writings for some, for special ed administrators about what they needed to know about specialized law. And they, so I did that, I did that for a decade.

David Bateman (03:42.446)

adjudicated just shy of 600 due process hearings during that time and stopped for insurance reasons because my insurance went from $360 a year to $18,000 a year because of what's called the continuing effect. All the previous people can sue you kinds of things. And so I stopped doing that and I started working with at that time, mostly school districts to help them move forward and help decide first, do they have a case?

And then if they don't have a case, how to settle it and then what they should do to change it so that it doesn't happen to another child and move forward from there. All along I was doing this is I started finding instances where there was lack of awareness, a lack of knowledge on different things and I would write about it and started writing journal articles. Then I started writing books.

Like, for instance, one of the first books I wrote was a guide for principals about what they need to know about special education, because principals were testifying in due process hearings. And I had a principal really truly say this, is this IEP term, is this a building level term or district wide term, because I'm not sure what it means. And so I did some research and the vast majority of principals nationwide did not have to have any coursework or competencies relating to special education in order to become a building level administrator.

So I wrote that, I'd been a middle-income administrator, my dad had been one, so we wrote the, it was the first edition of the Principal's Guide to Special Education. The fourth edition of it just came out last week. And so we started with that process, but it was just kind of finding areas that people needed guidance to try to reduce litigation. That was my whole purpose, because people come to contact me all the time saying, what can I do to file litigation? I always say, don't, don't.

There's got to be a better way to work on this to solve this. And so I did a case study book. I did a special education administration textbook, legally compliant IEP textbook. And so we've got a variety of things in the works also coming up, but it was just trying to help reduce this and try to move it forward because school districts, I mean,

David Bateman (06:00.702)

They were dragged kicking and screaming into providing services for kids with disabilities. I say that because my brother-in-law was legally prevented from attending school for the first 17 years of his life. He's labeled as having profound intellectual disabilities. He needs help toileting. He needs help getting dressed. He's nonverbal. He knows maybe 10 signs of which eight relate to going to McDonald's right now.

And so, but he was legally prevented from attending school. And my wife and I, he's in his upper sixties now, my wife and I assumed care for him as my mother-in-law's like 94, 95. And so we, but it was preventable from, so families experienced this. And individuals with disabilities experienced this. And I just was trying to make it a way of trying to help people.

and just help move what's going on and do it with the rules and policies that we have now. Now, are the rules and policies we have right now great? They're not perfect, but it's what we have to live on. so actually working with individuals right now, we formed a working group on how to make recommendations about due process so that it improves things. But there's a lot to go on. And the problem is I wish I could say that I've been effective in reducing litigation.

I haven't, but I'm trying. I truly am trying on many levels. do a lot of workshops. I do a lot of case studies. I do a lot of Zoom sessions with school districts and how to help them move forward. And I know your original podcasts were speech language pathologists. And I just let you know, I love speech language pathologists. And let me explain why. Because when I do witness preparation for due process hearings,

Speech language pathologists have data every time they've worked with a child and they're a gem to do preparation for. Special Ed teachers don't have that. And so it makes it more difficult to actually prepare what's going on. So, and I do a lot of my writing with a speech path, who basically I write things and she makes me look good. And so it is what it is. So I really appreciate the service you provide.

Marisha (08:20.635)

Wow, what a I love the whole the whole getting to hear the whole progression and also a little bit of your personal why behind kind of the motivation behind the work that you do. That's great. And so if a district administrator is listening to this, I know this is a really broad question, but like if a district administrator is listening and maybe they're newer in their role or maybe and they're just worried about

litigation in general and they want to decrease their chances or someone who's had their fair share of litigation. It's like, okay, we don't want to get stuck in this rut. Like what suggestions, like what starting points would you recommend for them in terms of, okay, I want to reduce my district's chance of litigation. can we do?

David Bateman (09:10.542)

this is an easy one. Thank you. But it's also a great starter thing because our obligation, as I said a few minutes ago, our obligation is to provide an appropriate education. And appropriate is defined basically three different ways. so we have this then. And so I don't want to go like I'll do a long lecture on this, but I'll break it down pretty fast. The first part is we have to follow the procedures.

And so just make sure we're following the procedures. And this is why, for instance, special ed directors hound people to make sure that we have the right people in the room when we're having the IEP meetings, that we follow the timelines. Because the thought process is fair procedures makes fair outcomes. So it's a procedural aspect of this. And we need to make sure that we're following the fair procedures. So one of the things we need to think about is ensuring just basic legal compliance and consistency, that we're following the laws, the state laws.

And so like this. So what I would recommend, for instance, is just make sure that they stay updated on IDEA. And I'm going to shill something. it's a free thing. So is that OK? I have a blog that I do with Mitch Yell. And the blog is spedlawblog.com. And what we do is we put the most up-to-date things about legal things, legal cases out there, just to try to

Marisha (10:21.875)

Yeah, good point.

David Bateman (10:37.614)

keep people aware of what's going on. I wrote something that went up last week and it was basically tips for school districts that they can do in October and November to get ready for the December 1 child count because that's how they get all their reimbursement. And it's a big driving force for their income for their school district relating to kids eligible for special education related services. Because without that they would bomb. But there's some great tips there for things like this. Upcases, things like this.

I do a summary of the big articles out there on the mainstream press that they talk about special education out there. It's a free blog. never, ever, ever, we guarantee this, we're never going to try to sell you something on that blog. Because publishers have reached out to us saying, could you just plug this for me? Could you do this? And it's like,

No, that's not that's I feel like we would break the bond of we are we're not trying to we're not trying to get rich out this we're just trying to reduce litigation and help with this as much as possible and it's a way to provide appropriate services. So the first thing is just stay up to date and sped law blog is a great way, but also just periodically conduct compliance audits and encourage adherence to procedures, make sure we're following the procedures like evaluations, eligibility determinations.

And we're also implementing the IEP. But then document. There's a famous phrase that we have in litigation is that if it's not written down, it didn't happen. Make sure that we have really clear documentation of who's going on. So like, even if you have a conversation with a parent in a hall or in the parking lot, which is a lot of building level administrators have, memorialize that in an email follow-up. this is what we talked about, just so that there's something on there.

So we have an acronym in special education. I don't think it's a special acronym. It's called CYA. I don't remember what it stands for, but it's basically just trying to clarify that you have to keep documentation on these things. that's so that's the first thing. The second thing is I would emphasize appropriate training and professional development. I do a lot of workshops and I do a ton of workshops and I enjoy it. I have fun with it.

David Bateman (13:01.022)

And I parry questions fairly well with this, but there's some really good resources out there from like the Progress Center or from the IRIS Center or the center that I'm working on with at AIR right now called the LEAD IDEA Center. It's the new OSEP funded center that's going to train principals nationwide relating to their knowledge relating to special education. We're gonna have a whole bunch of resources available in the spring on this one.

but there's some great resources out there that are already. So what I would do is I often do workshops and say, here are some follow-up things you can do with your district to follow up because one-time trainings often don't do it. And so in fact, that's my new mantra with districts is I refuse to do one-time trainings. I'll come to your district, I'll do a workshop, and then we're gonna do a follow-up through Zoom because the nature of adult learning, as you think of the questions two weeks later, three weeks later.

or when you're interacting with their parents. You don't think of the questions right then. So just trying to help with that as much as possible, things like that. But then make sure, that was, is this the one? Yeah, the second one. Make sure you have really clear communication protocols about how to talk with families and train staff to not use jargon. Because we use jargon like crazy in special education. I mean, the best example I can give to you is I was in a meeting.

And I only go to the contentious ones. don't go to the happy ones anymore. But I was in a contentious IEP meeting and the parent finally turned to the teacher and said, is this Dibble's thing? Is this something I should pay attention to? Or is Dibble's the name of the classroom gerbil? I don't remember. And we, cause we use these terms and we don't, and parents don't understand standard scores and we don't do a good job of explaining standard scores to parents. We have to explain things, not as a way of talking down to them, but as a way of facilitating communication.

Because there's that little known statistic that if a child attends full day kindergarten does not miss a single day of school, by the time they're 18, they will be in school less than 10 % of their life. The rest of the time, they're the responsibility of the parents and the parents pick up a major responsibility afterwards. I can talk about that and the responsibilities that I have with my brother-in-law.

David Bateman (15:12.074)

And so it's interesting, we have to embrace the families and appreciate the families and help them as much as possible as part of this process, but have really clear communication. But then also, create, the other thing is to pay attention to, if there's one thing, and I alluded to this a few minutes ago when I was talking with you, if there's one thing that I could get districts to do, if there's just one thing, in fact, you guys can turn off this podcast after you hear this one thing.

There's one thing that I would recommend you do is dramatically increase your progress monitoring data. That bar none, because it's amazing because the vast majority of the lawsuits that I'm involved in, because school districts, they'll send me stuff. They'll send me stuff on a Thursday. And to see, for us to meet with a special ed director and superintendent on Monday. If I'm looking through the progress monitoring data on Thursday afternoon and Friday, there's no progress monitoring data.

I'm done. There's no reason to look at any additional information because first you can't, you don't know where the child is. You can't make informed decisions about what's going on. So when I say increase your progress monitoring data, what do I mean by this? Like in a nine week marking period, there are multiple districts I've worked with that have one data point per nine week marking period. as a speech, is your background speech path?

Yeah, so you understand how bad that is. And so it's, but yeah, it was, it was posed as a problem because so I asked, I asked them to graph that. They graph it. It's right here. You can't tell yay or nay where the child's going up or down. So I'm looking in a nine week market period, I'm looking for probably six to seven data points that give us some sense of what's going on. And people say, well, that's a lot of testing. It's not a lot of testing if done right, because you have to think about it as, as I'm to use an analogy, the difference between a series of snapshots versus long videos.

a five minute probe here, a 10 minute probe there, you can get a lot of data on a child about what's going on. You don't have to give them a two hour test every single time. By doing this, you can get a really good indication of what's going on. But then use that data for something. Because there's an acronym we have in special education law called, it's a real lab acronym, it's not one of my made up ones. It's KUSHK, K-O-S-H-K, K-O-S-H-K.

David Bateman (17:34.73)

It stands for when a district knew as in K-N-E-W or should have known. Knew or should have known, K-O-S-H-K. The vast majority of the cases I'm involved in are what I refer to as KUSHC cases. They knew that the child was not making progress. The best example I can give you is about two years ago. A district knew at the end of the first marking period a child was really having problems.

and did nothing, okay? They knew at the end of the second market period, he was being kicked out of his science and social studies classes four out of five days a week because of his behavior problems. They knew at end of the second market period, he was not doing well. They did nothing. They knew at the end of the third of the market, at the end of the third of the market period, they knew that he was not doing well. And they said, it's too late to make changes. We'll make changes next year. They knew at the end of the first market period, he was not doing well, all right?

My question for you is, who's the slow learner here? They knew at the end of the first Morgan period, he was not doing well and did not make changes. This child has a disability at no fault of his own. And what we need to think about doing is making sure that we're providing appropriate services. And so he didn't choose to have learning disabilities. It's not like he woke up that day. I'll have LD because it's easy to spell. Next week I'll have autism because they have better bumper stickers.

But then he chose, he has a disability and we have to think about what can we do? So use that data to make changes, make changes, but take data and then make changes on it. If I could get districts to do that, I think I would solve probably 80 % of the special education litigation. And that would be a huge asset for life. And I mean that literally. That would solve things and that would prevent problems down the road.

because you would have data because people come to me all the time. I actually wrote a book on how to prepare for due process hearings and people come to me and say, it's hard to prepare. If you have data, it's not hard. You have complete control over the kid from the moment they get on the bus to the moment they get off the bus. Take data out the wazoo and from other places too, but take data. And then you have this data that you can make informed decisions. And if you don't do this, yeah, we're gonna settle. We're gonna settle. And...

David Bateman (19:54.888)

And the vast majority of cases settle because we don't have data. I appreciate the fact that you're like, I'm going to stand up on this one. Okay, here we go. We're standing up. But it's basically the ability to make informed decisions based on data is valuable. And do that because without that, you are shooting in the dark. And you can't say yes or no, whether what you've done for the child is appropriate or not.

That was a long answer to a very good question by the

Marisha (20:27.419)

Yeah, I love that. Well, maybe not this scenario, but that was a really nice explanation. So it sounds like the biggest barrier that we've got here is that lack of data collection. what is so that seems because I was going to ask, like, why have we been so unsuccessful at reducing litigation? And it sounds like the short answer to that would be.

David Bateman (20:31.054)

Yes.

David Bateman (20:43.65)

Yes.

Marisha (20:56.071)

data collection, why is it like, why is this so challenging to implement?

David Bateman (21:03.22)

because people think it takes time. Because first, well, basically the complexity of special education. We can sit here, you and I can go through the black letter differences of what the law is, but it's the gray areas. It's the gray areas that you have to deal with. And that's where the nuances mean the whole term appropriate.

is where most of the litigation lies is what is appropriate for me may not be appropriate for you and may not be appropriate for a parent. appropriate is very much in the IDB holder. And so that's the hard part. And the Supreme Court did give us a little bit of guidance to provide assistance on this, but they didn't give, think, enough to help with this because they're there. Luckily, people are pushing, trying to push what push the envelope on this.

because just awareness on this. So to the complexity of the law. The second thing, mean, resources. I mean, almost all the school districts that I talk about talk with are having trouble getting staff. And I mean this literally, they're having trouble. I mean, there's one of my cases right now, what would solve the case, what would solve the case would be a paraprofessional who has five years of extensive

behavior management training, has great references and is Orton Gillingham certified. right. That would, a paraprofessional who were going to pay like 12 bucks an hour with those credentials. Yeah, that would solve a lot of cases. What I'm looking for is a unicorn there. And that's, it's not happening. But in many of the districts I'm working with, we're just excited that we have people who apply who are breathing.

And so it poses a problem. So we have resources difficulties, but resource, we have personnel issues. The other thing is we're constantly retraining staff because the average special education teacher doesn't last that long. And so we're constantly having to re-up what's going on as a part of this. And that poses a problem for the level of consistency because a teacher who's been out there for one month is held to the same legal standard as someone who's been out there for 15 years. And so we have to think about that. I've got all sorts of suggestions.

David Bateman (23:28.558)

tips of what we can do to pair a new teacher with a previous one and mentor them as a part of this process. But you have to think about this. also, but so we have to think about the training. But the other thing about this is the stakes for the family. The stakes for the family is really high because many of these families are wrestling with issues that are make it difficult for them.

And I mean, my in-laws, they couldn't go to restaurants. Restaurants at that time would legally say, don't bring his type here. They chose their place of worship based on, because my father-in-law moved, they moved fairly often. They chose their place of worship based on where they, places that would allow him to come. And he didn't make any noises. They just didn't want to see him. And he has some facial features that indicate that he has a disability. So families are dealing with restraints. They couldn't get babysitters. And so,

My wife, never went out to eat when she was younger. And it was just standard practice, despite the fact that he shows signs of Prader-Willi syndrome. They would love to have a restaurant take him and they would pay for it. it wasn't a money issue, but it was those kinds of things. So there were constraints on this, but also just understanding the differences of where we are with this. And so the big thing is the inadequate or inconsistent, not consistent training.

And so that's why I said earlier, the use of the Iris modules, the use of the Progress Center videos, I was a senior advisor to the Progress Center, and then use of the lead IDA stuff that's coming out in the spring will be great resources. so I'm, in fact, like tomorrow I'm going to the case conference in Atlanta, and with all the special ed administrators, and I'm gonna be meeting with a lot of people while I'm there.

just trying to help them just solve some of these problems because it's not your district that has this problem solely, it's many of these districts that are having this. And so that makes it very difficult. yeah, you let me rant again. You're very good about this. Okay.

Marisha (25:36.627)

No, and I love getting to hear your insight. This is really helpful. And so from your perspective, and we've touched on some of these already, I think, but what are the most pressing issues facing special education as a whole?

David Bateman (25:58.382)

Well, the big thing is resources. is staffing shortages and just high turnover. Because the shortages increase caseloads, causes burnout among staff, and just reduces the quality of the individualized instruction and support for these kids. And that poses a significant problem. I wish it. I wish we had better funding. And that's an easy answer. Congress has

When we passed the law back in the 70s, Congress said they would pay up to 40 % of the excess costs of the special education services provided for these kids. They've ever paid as 20%. So Congress has never appropriated the amount of money that they told districts about this. But it makes it difficult. limited resources can mean insufficient materials, outdated technology, just lack of training opportunities, which undermine the effectiveness of all the specialist services.

The other things, issues, is basically equitable access to services. And I want to just talk about disproportionality issues, is that we've had some issues relating to special education where we've been overly identifying individuals of certain ethnic classes for special education, and we need to do better job of providing appropriate instruction. I mean, I'm speaking to you as a male. We over identify males, and I think we under identify females.

especially for the category of autism. And so we need to think more about appropriate supports for these individuals and helping identify these individuals, but we need to do a better job of this. And we need to make sure that we're providing equitable access to these things to help them with this. The push towards least restrictive environment and what we need to think about this.

is I can give you some, if you want, I can go on a tangent about horror cases relating to least restrictive environment things, where districts were doing stupid things spelled with two O's. But it's interesting about this. You want me to? I'll go, I'll go. Yeah. All right, so there was a district I was working with where the reason I was involved with this is ninth grade brothers, fraternal twins, one eligible for special education, one not. The one eligible for special education was labeled as having intellectual disability.

Marisha (28:06.875)

Yeah, let's go.

David Bateman (28:22.818)

because they were both backup guards on the football team. That's an important point in a second. Because he was eligible for special education, he had to ride the special ed bus to school. So he would get picked up 20 minutes before his brother, ride all around the county, get to school after his brother. There was other requirements because he was in the special education class. Because he was in the special education class, he had to eat at the special ed table at lunch.

everyone else in the high school got to eat at the table they wanted. Because he was in the special education class, he also had to walk with a teacher at our aid at all times in the building. He did not need a special bus, he did not need special instruction for eating, he did not need anything. But decisions were being made based on his disability label, not based on his individual need. Wait, it gets worse.

he's a ninth grade boy, he's a backup guard on the football team, he can dunk a basketball. But because he was in the special education class, he was required to take adapted PE. I'm going out on a limb here. I'm gonna say if you can dunk a basketball, you don't need adapted PE. Just call me crazy. But it's interesting about this. And the last thing, and this is really interesting, is all the teachers in the building labeled their classes

by the subject matter that they taught. So the English teacher taught English, the French teacher put hers in French, the Spanish teacher in Spanish, the science teacher, things like this, the special ed teacher had special ed. And the kids did not want to go there. They didn't want to be known as eligible for special education. All he really wanted was he wanted to sleep in 20 minutes, ride the bus with his brother, sit with his football friends at lunch, walk through the hall and not take a dab to PE.

Again, decisions were being made based on his disability label, not based on his individual needs. And we've got to focus on that. We've got to focus on the fact that we do these things without thinking about what the kids really need and we need to pay more attention to what's going on about that. You're very gracious by the way. So, okay.

Marisha (30:37.979)

Yeah, no, that's great. so the, do you think have been the biggest changes over the past several years? Like have you seen any shifts in the landscape?

David Bateman (30:53.938)

Yes. COVID was not good to special ed. And I mean that. I say that because there's been, we're now starting to see the litigation that has filtered up through the due process hearings reach federal court level. And so we're seeing some of those cases really get there, despite the fact that COVID is for many of us in our, hopefully in our rear view mirror.

But it's, so that was not good. We have to remind ourselves that these kids are entitled and need an appropriate education. So other things we've seen is other things. And it's a positive thing is the rise of MTSS or multi-tiered systems of supports. I think it's wonderful. And we have to think it not just about academics, because too often we think about it solely as academics. We also have to think about it relating to behaviors.

and working to help address this. Because one of the things, I was a professor for many years, I'll be candid with you, new teachers don't get good enough training on behavior management, and that is often why they leave the profession. So one of the tips I give to school districts is among the many tips, and I have a lot of tips. One of the tips I give to school districts is we give reading coaches and instructional coaches, we need to give more behavior coaches to teachers.

to help them with this, to help address this, because that's what's frustrating them and how to actually deal with what's going on. We do a really good job of how to organize lesson plans, go through developmental levels, things like this, but we don't do a good job of how to actually respond. And we need to do a better job of this and provide appropriate supports for this. The other things that, the other thing, other changes, hopefully this is a result of just the Ender F Supreme Court case in 2017, is the expanded role of data.

and progress monitoring, is we need to do a better job of this. We need to use data adjustments more frequently, as I said before, ensuring the supports are actually responsive to each student's evolving needs and meet the standards and demand that we make sure that we're providing progress for these kids. And they're not just wallowing things like this. Other things, increased focus on transition planning.

David Bateman (33:13.016)

Transition planning for life after high school has become more significant focus with schools implementing structure supports to help provide students in vocational independent living and social skills, not just preparing them for college. But there's another area that you would think, why didn't you talk about this first? Is the advancements in assistive technology. The rapid growth in assistive technology has transformed how students are accessing learning.

But one thing, is, I'm sidelining this one, is too often what we're doing for these kids is we're giving them an assistive technology device and they were not then monitoring whether it actually solves the problem. And I can make a parallel to the same with one-on-one aids. We think just by placing a child with a one-on-one aid that that's going to solve the problem. We need to take data.

So what I recommend for districts, if you give a kid a device, whatever the device is, whatever, I don't care what the device is. My daughter taught at a school where most of the kids use Proloque, a wonderful app for the iPad, but look at it three, four weeks later, has it solved or mitigated the problem it was intended to solve? As opposed to just placing and just hoping that it works out, because too often that's what we do. I'm serious, we do that, but then we don't monitor what's going on. The same thing with classroom aids.

we we we thought we're to provide an aid for the classroom. Does it solve or mitigate the problem the student has? If it doesn't, then you need to try something else as opposed to just just hoping it's working and then just bury your head in the sand and assuming it's not there. But we need to we need to do a better job of monitoring this and monitoring what's going on because I can guarantee a question from if you were going to do processing.

I can guarantee a question from parents council would be, okay, so you gave this kid this assistive technology device, did it work?

David Bateman (35:13.622)

If you can't answer that, then what the heck? Why do it? Okay? It's better for us to try something and then see if it works. And if it doesn't try something else and then try something else and try something else. First, it's legally defensible, but it's also better for the child. It's better for the child to say that, well, we spent all this money on this technology device and you can't get it to work. No, we actually have to provide instruction for these kids on these things. And so keep that in mind. Okay? There's also,

There's been a, I'm just going through my head. There are notes on the inside of my glasses. You can't see them. Growing focus on behavioral and mental health supports. The demands relating to mental health supports are dramatic. I wrote a book called Trauma Informed IEPs, which sad to say is getting a lot of press. And I wish it wasn't the case, but there's a lot of kids who have experienced trauma in one form or another. And we need to think about

Marisha (35:49.491)

you

David Bateman (36:12.59)

how we can provide appropriate IEPs for them to help with this and then appropriate then instruction for this. But it is what it is to help with this. I think that's enough right now. But yes, but there's just off the top of my head, those are things that I think we all need to pay attention to and we all need to address. And they're all valuable because it's an ever evolving field. And I'm still learning.

you paid that I've been involved in 30 years. God, it made me sound old. But it's interesting about this. I dinner with my college roommate from last night and we realized that we'd known each other for a long time. And so, and he was bald and looked old and luckily I don't look bald or old. So it's interesting about this, but he made fun of me anyway. But it's interesting about this is that there's so much to learn and it's evolving. so first, for anyone who's listened this far, I applaud you for taking the time

to extend your learning. I applaud you for becoming increasingly engaged. I applaud you for wanting to do a better job of what you're doing, because there's many people who are shutting down. And so the fact that you're continually evolving on this is to your credit, because educators get a bad rap. I come from a family of educators. My dad was my superintendent of schools. My daughter is a special ed teacher. My sister's a reading specialist.

My son, he's going to be a teacher someday. He doesn't know it. He's involved in the cryptocurrency world. But it's interesting about this. And my wife, my wife works at, she was a professor for many years and now she works in guide services at Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's home. It's on the back of the nickel. It looks about the same. What's interesting about that is that it's, come from, but we get, educators get a bad rap.

that they take things easy. So I applaud people for listening to this. And I appreciate the fact that you're working to try to improve the services for kids. you should be, you should be, I really do mean this. It's a good thing that you're doing this.

Marisha (38:18.791)

Yeah. And I think that's a really nice note to kind of start closing in on or wrapping up with. then I've always just one last question that I had. So for, cause there's clearly a lot of hurdles in terms of, especially if we're in a district with limited resources, we're struggling to find people. We're trying to like training people is really hard if you don't even have the people to train and you're just trying to.

get all of those pieces together. So can, like, maybe just to wrap up, do you, can you share maybe like your top three strategies? Cause there have to be like special education administrators out there who are kind of making some progress and figuring things out despite those hurdles and challenges. could you pinpoint a couple of the things that seem to be helpful?

David Bateman (39:19.884)

Yes, yes. I probably got some sense I could go on about this for a while. But first, make sure that you think about implementing across your district as much as possible MTS multi-tiered systems of support, because the vast majority of the kids come to school not eligible for special education related services. And we need to make sure that we're doing this.

So we need to train both general and special education teachers in MTSS. There are really good resources out there. There's the MTSS Center. There's a good module at the Iris Center. But focus on using data to identify students who need supports before issues really escalate. Basically, make sure that you're using regular progress monitoring to help adjust interventions based on real-time data, which can prevent this. Use available free or low-cost assessment intervention tools. Just build these things.

Just help with us, okay? Prioritize professional development in cost-effective practices. Basically, make sure your teachers are trained and provide effective support to reduce the need for extensive, costly external services. Behavior management, inclusive instruction, collaboration, like the IRIS Center or the Progress Center have really good modules on this one. But going back to this is,

you said three, I'm gonna come up with four, I apologize, is work closely with the families. Trust and empower the families. Most people can, most families can handle things as long as it's not a surprise. Make sure that you keep them fully informed about what's going on, that you talk with them on a regular basis and engage them and listen to them. I mean, I start every single IEP meeting that I attend with parent.

Tell us about your child. Because what that does is it grounds us. It grounds us that we're there to talk about a child. We're not just there for a paperwork compliance document. We're there to talk about a child who has needs. it's amazing what I've learned. It's amazing what I've learned from these things. And so we have to remind ourselves of this, is that we listen to this. And the last thing, I reiterated this about a half hour ago or so, but is to dramatically increase your progress monitoring data.

David Bateman (41:47.786)

not just on academics, but on behaviors. So I train people all the time, like just a little sticky pad, just like this. Just number of times a kid gets out of their seat, just a frequency count. Number of times they go to the bathroom. Number of times that they talk out. Just little things like this. Just a frequency count. It doesn't have to be fancy stuff. But then also compare that to the average child in the classroom, so we have some sense, yeah or nay, is that a lot of things.

but just frequency counts or duration counts. How long does the kid go to the bathroom for? I'm not talking, I'm not asking what the kid does in the bathroom. I just want a duration count to this. I'm not talking about fancy stuff like latency data. I'm talking about just basic, just frequency and duration, which is easy stuff that a teacher can implement while they're doing things. Like the number of times a kid, when they're in the playground, how many times do they actually interact with other kids on the playground? How many times do they actually interact with others at end of lunch room?

because some of these kids are really socially isolated and they're having trouble interacting with others. And we need some, just some data to reference this. So we can make decisions based on this. So you asked for three, I gave you four. I apologize. talk a

Marisha (42:58.835)

love a good bonus. But those are really great suggestions. yeah, I'm, I'll, we'll have like a quick summary in the show notes as well. So if you're listening to this, we took some notes for you. And then I'll also share links to David's website and books and publications and all of that, as well as the different resources he mentioned, like for professional development.

David Bateman (43:00.386)

Yes.

Marisha (43:27.907)

and just any citations were able to find, put together to help you navigate this. but this was really great. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time and your expertise. I feel like we could have 5 million follow-up podcast episodes on all of these topics. but I appreciate you kind of helping keeping it broad with me and kind of getting the discussion started. So thank you.

to the listeners. hope this was a good start.

David Bateman (44:00.614)

Thanks, Marcia. I really appreciate your time. I really appreciate what you're trying to do. And I applaud you for this. Thank you so very much for your efforts. All right. Please let me know what else I can do for you guys.

Marisha (44:07.345)

Yeah, like rice right back at you.

Marisha (44:13.575)

Great, thank you so much.

David Bateman (44:15.406)

All right, good.

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Executive Function in Speech Therapy: An SLP’s Guide

November 19, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

In this episode of the SLP Now podcast, Marisha interviews Tera Sumpter, a speech-language pathologist specializing in executive function. Tera shares her unconventional journey into the field, emphasizing the importance of understanding executive function in child development and learning. The conversation explores the role of SLPs in supporting executive function, effective assessment strategies, and practical applications in therapy sessions. Tera highlights the significance of dynamic assessment, reflexive questioning, and using high-interest items to enhance learning and engagement. The episode concludes with a call to action for SLPs to deepen their understanding of executive function to better support their students.

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The Importance of Executive Function in Speech Therapy

Executive function serves as the “cognitive umbrella” under which crucial skills such as planning, organizing, and attending develop. These abilities are foundational for a child’s speech, language, and literacy growth. 

For SLPs, understanding and addressing executive function deficits means addressing the roots of learning challenges rather than simply managing surface symptoms.

What is Executive Function?

Executive function encompasses the mental processes that enable individuals to focus, remember instructions, and juggle multiple tasks. 

These processes are the backbone of conscious learning—skills such as perception, attention, working memory, and inhibition all play critical roles.

As Tera Sumpter explains; 

“Executive function is the foundation for how a child orients themselves to their environment in order to learn from their environment. We know that a child learns speech and language by observing models in their environment.”

– Tera Sumpter 

For more background make sure to check out the ASHA executive functioning guide.

Why is Executive Function Critical for SLPs?

SLPs are uniquely positioned to support executive function development because these skills are deeply intertwined with speech and language acquisition. 

As Tera emphasizes, understanding the role executive function plays in a child’s ability to connect with their environment and process information is essential. Without this connection, children may struggle to make meaningful progress.

“If we have children who struggle with development in any of these areas, whether they’re not perceiving the models in their environment, they’re not attending long enough to process it, or their working memory system can’t hold on to one of these components, there can be breakdowns anywhere within that foundation, and that will impact speech and language development”.

  • Tera Sumpter

By addressing executive function, SLPs not only support language development but also equip children with tools that enhance their overall ability to learn and communicate. 

This approach ensures that interventions are both holistic and impactful.

Components of Executive Function in Speech Therapy

Executive function is composed of several interconnected skills:

  • Perception: The ability to become aware of stimuli in the environment.
  • Attention: The capacity to focus on relevant tasks and ignore distractions.
  • Working Memory: The process of holding and manipulating verbal and nonverbal information.
  • Inhibition: The ability to regulate responses and resist impulses.

For example, a toddler learning to associate a “kitty” with the fuzzy animal they encounter relies on pairing verbal input with nonverbal memory. 

When breakdowns occur in these components, they can hinder speech and language development, making it essential for SLPs to identify and address them in therapy.

“Perception is being aware that the models are in our environment to learn from.. We have to perceive.. Then we have to attend to it, holding attention on that stimulus long enough to internalize and process it. Processing involves working memory, both verbal and nonverbal.”​

– Tera Sumpter

Dynamic Assessment: A Better Way to Evaluate Executive Function

Standardized tests, while common, often fail to capture the complexities of executive function. 

These assessments provide a structured environment where the examiner inadvertently supports the child’s executive function, masking real challenges. 

Tera Sumpter critiques this approach; 

“All the big researchers in the field of executive function are very clear that standardized assessment is the absolute worst way to assess executive function.”

Instead, dynamic assessment offers a more authentic evaluation method. By observing patterns of processing (POP) across various contexts, SLPs can identify how executive function deficits manifest in real-world settings. 

For example, does a child struggle to perceive their environment, follow multi-step instructions, or sustain attention? Identifying these patterns provides actionable insights for intervention.

Therapy Techniques for Executive Function: Practical Strategies

Effective therapy for executive function focuses on engaging children in meaningful, interactive tasks. 

Tera Sumpter outlines several practical strategies:

  • Reflexive Questioning: This technique encourages children to direct their own actions by asking questions like, “Where should our thoughts be right now?” According to Tera, “Reflexive questioning provides the child with an opportunity to self-direct… It’s the biggest game changer in therapy.”
  • High-Interest Activities: Incorporating a child’s interests—such as dinosaurs or favorite songs—into therapy keeps them engaged and enhances their perception of the environment.
  • Collaborative Planning: Inviting children to create session plans fosters self-regulation and decision-making. For instance, assigning tasks to different corners of the room labeled with favorite themes (e.g., dinosaurs) helps children plan and follow through on their activities.

These strategies not only address executive function deficits but also integrate seamlessly into typical therapy sessions, making them both effective and practical for SLPs to implement.

The Role of Working Memory in Speech and Language Development

Working memory is a central component of executive function, essential for pairing verbal and nonverbal cues and creating meaningful language experiences. 

“Working memory is an aspect of our executive function system… When information comes in, we hold sounds within our verbal working memory while simultaneously attaching meaning through our nonverbal working memory. It’s the pairing of these two that gives birth to language.”

– Tera Sumpter

Breakdowns in working memory can significantly hinder speech and language development. 

For instance, a child may struggle to hold verbal instructions in their memory or fail to associate sensory input with language. These challenges highlight the need for targeted interventions that strengthen both verbal and nonverbal working memory capacities.

In therapy, activities that integrate working memory—such as storytelling, sequencing, or matching tasks—can help children develop these critical skills. By addressing working memory deficits, SLPs provide children with the tools to process, retain, and use language effectively.

The Connection Between Executive Function and Literacy

Executive function plays a significant role in literacy development, as many of the same cognitive processes support both language and reading skills. 

According to Tera Sumpter, literacy assessments provide valuable insights into a child’s executive functioning capabilities, revealing patterns such as poor working memory or difficulty sustaining attention.

For instance, children who struggle with working memory may find it challenging to comprehend and retain the information they read, while those with attention deficits might lose focus during longer texts. By identifying these patterns, SLPs can develop interventions that target the root causes of literacy challenges.

Incorporating executive function strategies into literacy instruction—such as using graphic organizers, chunking information, or building metacognitive skills—can significantly improve reading comprehension and fluency. These approaches not only enhance literacy outcomes but also strengthen executive functioning, setting children up for long-term academic success.

Executive Function Treatment: Common Challenges

Children with executive function challenges often exhibit difficulty perceiving, attending, or processing stimuli in their environment. These deficits may manifest as poor task performance, difficulty following instructions, or challenges with language development.

Tera Sumpter explains that many symptoms observed in therapy—such as struggles with past-tense verbs or speech sound errors—can be traced back to underlying executive function issues. 

“We can patch all these symptoms, but we’re not really getting to the root of what’s going on, which doesn’t set them up for independence in terms of learning.”

Addressing these challenges requires a deep understanding of the child’s executive function profile and tailoring interventions accordingly. For example, SLPs might:

  • Use dynamic assessment to pinpoint specific executive function deficits.
  • Integrate activities that promote attention, working memory, and inhibition.
  • Collaborate with educators and parents to ensure consistent support across environments.

By addressing these core challenges, SLPs can help children build a stronger foundation for learning and communication.

Training SLPs to Support Executive Function

To effectively address executive function in therapy, SLPs need ongoing education and access to resources that deepen their understanding of these skills. 

Tera Sumpter encourages professionals to seek interdisciplinary learning opportunities, combining insights from neuroscience, cognitive psychology, and literacy research.

Tera’s educational community is one such resource, providing a collaborative platform for SLPs, educators, and allied professionals to explore the nuances of executive function. 

“In my community, we spend a lot of time looking at patterns of processing, dissecting them, and connecting the dots between executive function and how children develop speech, language, and literacy.”

– Tera Sumpter

In addition to community learning, tools such as reflexive questioning guides, dynamic assessment frameworks, and structured intervention plans can support SLPs in implementing effective strategies. 

By investing in their own professional growth, SLPs can make a lasting impact on the children they serve.

Executive Function Beyond Speech Therapy

The impact of executive function extends far beyond the therapy room, influencing children’s ability to thrive in academic, social, and personal contexts. 

These skills are integral to classroom success, enabling children to follow instructions, manage tasks, and engage in problem-solving. Beyond academics, executive function plays a critical role in emotional regulation and social interactions, helping children build resilience and adaptability.

“When we bring everyone on board to support these skills, we’re helping the child develop not just in speech and language but as a whole person.”

– Tera Sumpter

Collaboration is key. SLPs, educators, and parents must work together to reinforce executive function strategies across different settings. This unified approach ensures children receive consistent support, whether they are navigating a challenging classroom assignment or learning to manage their emotions during playtime.

Professionals can integrate executive function strategies into broader contexts, such as counseling sessions or academic interventions. Activities that emphasize planning, organization, and self-monitoring help children apply these skills in real-world situations. 

For example, teachers can use graphic organizers to improve task sequencing, while parents might incorporate problem-solving games at home to foster critical thinking.

By addressing executive function holistically, professionals set children up for success not only in school but in life. 

These efforts equip children with the tools they need to become independent learners and confident individuals, ready to face future challenges with resilience and creativity.

Success Stories: The Impact of Executive Function Interventions

Real-world success stories illustrate the transformative power of addressing executive function deficits in speech therapy.

Tera Sumpter shares an example of a child who initially struggled to follow classroom instructions and complete assignments. Through interventions focused on improving perception, attention, and working memory, the child developed strategies to process and retain information more effectively. Over time, this progress translated into academic gains and increased confidence in both school and social settings.

In another case, a young student with persistent speech sound errors achieved significant improvement by addressing underlying executive function deficits. By integrating reflexive questioning and collaborative planning into therapy sessions, the SLP helped the child become more self-aware and actively engaged in their learning process. This shift not only resolved the speech challenges but also instilled a sense of independence and self-regulation.

For families and educators, these successes underscore the value of investing in comprehensive, evidence-based strategies that build a strong foundation for lifelong learning and growth.

“When we address executive function deficits, we see kids not just meeting their speech goals but transforming how they approach learning entirely. It’s not just about fixing a speech sound or a specific language goal; it’s about equipping them with tools to engage with their world more effectively and independently.”

– Tera Sumpter


Executive Function Resources

  • Tera’s Instagram
  • Tera’s Website
  • Tera’s Community

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Neurodiversity Affirming Speech Therapy Goals

August 27, 2024 by Marisha 1 Comment

As SLPs, we’re always looking for ways to support our students in the best way possible. When it comes to neurodivergent students, using neurodiversity affirming practices is key. 

These approaches celebrate individual strengths and communication styles rather than trying to “fix” differences.

In this guide, we’re tapping into the expertise of Jessie Ginsburg and Chris Wenger to show how you can write IEP goals that truly support and honor neurodivergent students.

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Understanding Neurodiversity Affirming Practices

At its core, neurodiversity affirming speech therapy embraces the idea that neurological differences like autism, ADHD, and other neurodivergent conditions are natural variations of the human brain, rather than deficits to be “fixed.” 

This approach focuses on building on a student’s existing strengths and respecting their preferred communication methods. 

As Jessie Ginsburg and Chris Wenger highlight, it’s essential to collaborate with neurodivergent individuals and their families to ensure that therapy aligns with the student’s unique needs and perspectives.

“You really do need to understand what makes something neurodiversity affirming. And for us, I know our favorite way to learn has always been to learn from autistic people.”

– Jessie Ginsburg

Neurodivergent vs. Neurotypical Communication Styles

Neurodivergent individuals often communicate in ways that differ from neurotypical norms. 

For example, autistic students may use alternative methods like AAC devices, gestures, or specific speech patterns that reflect their unique way of engaging with the world. 

Understanding these communication styles is crucial for SLPs to create supportive environments where students can express themselves freely.

What is Neurodiversity Affirming Speech and Language?

Neurodiversity affirming speech and language therapy is about supporting the communication preferences of neurodivergent individuals rather than trying to change them to fit neurotypical standards. 

This might include helping a student express their needs using their preferred method of communication, whether it’s verbal, through AAC, or other means.

What is the Neurodiversity Affirmative Therapy Approach?

The neurodiversity affirmative therapy approach shifts the focus from “fixing” neurodivergent behaviors to celebrating and supporting them. This approach ensures that therapy goals are aligned with a student’s authentic communication needs and helps them advocate for themselves in various environments.

One key consideration in this approach is masking—the act of neurodivergent individuals suppressing their natural behaviors to fit in with neurotypical expectations. Research shows that masking can lead to increased stress, anxiety, and mental health challenges, including burnout and a diminished sense of self​ (Source: National Autistic Society). 

By avoiding goals that encourage masking, therapists can focus on creating a safe space where students feel comfortable being their authentic selves.

Importance of Dynamic Assessment for Neurodiversity

A key element of neurodiversity affirming therapy is using dynamic assessment to understand each student’s strengths and challenges in real-time. 

Traditional assessments may not always capture the full picture of a neurodivergent student’s abilities, which is why dynamic assessments—where you observe and interact with students in different situations—are so important. 

It’s essential to assess how a student communicates and engages in natural settings before creating goals.

“Before we start developing the goals… we’ve got to have some information about what is going on in the environment. So it really has to come down to a dynamic assessment. We really want to figure out, when they get stuck on something in class, what’s this student’s way of communicating that they need support?”

– Chris Wenger

Developing Neurodiversity Affirming Speech Therapy Goals

When developing neurodiversity affirming speech therapy goals, the focus is on supporting the student’s authentic communication style rather than trying to “normalize” behaviors.

These goals empower neurodivergent students to communicate in ways that align with their strengths and preferences. 

This may involve self-advocacy, emotional regulation, and helping them participate meaningfully in different environments.

What are Neurodiversity-Affirming Goals?

Neurodiversity-affirming goals are those that respect and reflect the individual’s communication preferences, rather than attempting to change or “correct” them. 

These goals build on the student’s natural abilities and aim to enhance their quality of life by promoting self-expression in ways that are comfortable and effective for them.

“We’re not writing goals to create more stress and anxiety… We’re creating goals where they’re like, ‘yeah, that’s what I need help with’. So now they have buy-in into their own goals… and everybody gives each other a high five at the meetings.”

– Chris Wenger

How to Write Neurodiversity Affirming IEP Goals

When writing neurodiversity-affirming IEP goals, it’s important to involve the student and their family in the goal-setting process. 

Goals should be personalized, practical, and tailored to the student’s real-world experiences. Jessie and Chris recommend focusing on areas such as functional communication, emotional regulation, and self-advocacy—skills that will help the student navigate their environment with confidence and independence.

Speech Therapy Goals for Autistic Students

Speech therapy goals for autistic students should prioritize the student’s preferred communication methods, whether that’s using AAC, gestures, or speech. 

Rather than pushing neurotypical communication norms, these goals should enhance the student’s ability to communicate their needs and desires in a way that feels natural to them.

Total Communication Approach in Speech Therapy

The total communication approach embraces the use of multiple communication methods—such as AAC devices, verbal speech, and gestures—so students can express themselves in the most effective way. 

Jessie and Chris stress that this flexibility is key to neurodiversity-affirming therapy, as it allows students to advocate for themselves in ways that feel authentic. 

Why is the Total Communication Approach Important for Neurodivergent Students?

Neurodivergent students often have unique communication needs, and the total communication approach helps bridge the gap between different communication styles. By providing access to a range of communication methods, SLPs can better support their students’ interactions with peers, teachers, and family members, giving them more confidence in expressing their needs and thoughts.

Incorporating the Total Communication Approach in IEP Goals

When writing IEP goals, it’s important to incorporate the total communication approach by including different modes of communication in the goals themselves. This ensures that the student has access to multiple tools for communication and that the goals are flexible enough to accommodate the student’s preferences.

We know that sometimes that verbal speech might not happen in that moment, and that’s okay. So within the goal, we might put something to add ‘when given access to total communication’… That implies we’re not forcing the child to use verbal behavior or spoken language… We’re honoring the student and giving them a variety of ways to advocate and to express what helps them out best.

– Chris Wenger

Addressing Sensory Regulation in Speech Therapy

For many neurodivergent students, sensory regulation plays a crucial role in their ability to communicate effectively. Sensory regulation refers to how students process sensory input, such as sights, sounds, and textures, and how it impacts their emotional and physical state. In neurodiversity affirming speech therapy, it’s essential to acknowledge and address each student’s unique sensory needs.

“We want to make sure that our goals are also honoring autistic characteristics. Autistic brains function differently than neurotypical brains and their sensory is going to be different. The way they regulate their emotions is likely going to be different. The way they socialize might be different. The way they communicate might be different. So really taking into consideration..”

– Jessie Ginsburg

Autistic Communication Style

Autistic individuals often have distinct communication styles, which may include alternative communication methods or particular ways of expressing themselves verbally. 

Rather than shaping these styles to fit neurotypical norms, neurodiversity affirming therapy focuses on supporting these natural forms of communication. 

Jessie and Chris emphasize the importance of respecting these differences, noting that focusing too much on neurotypical communication can cause more harm than good: “We’re not just trying to make them fit into a mold.”

Neurodiversity-Affirming Speech Therapy Goals Examples

Writing neurodiversity-affirming goals requires a shift from traditional goals that aim to “normalize” communication toward goals that embrace the individual’s authentic communication style. 

These goals focus on building self-advocacy, enhancing emotional regulation, and supporting functional communication skills in everyday situations. 

For examples of effective, neurodiversity-affirming IEP goals, you can explore the SLP Now goal bank, which provides practical, real-world goals tailored to meet the needs of neurodivergent students.

How to Be a Neurodiversity-Affirming Speech Therapist

To become a neurodiversity-affirming SLP, it’s important to embrace a strength-based approach that focuses on the unique abilities of neurodivergent students rather than trying to “fix” perceived deficits. 

This involves creating a supportive, judgment-free environment where students feel comfortable communicating in their own way. 

Additionally, SLPs should collaborate with students, families, and other professionals to ensure that therapy goals are individualized and meaningful. 

For more guidance on fostering meaningful connections with neurodivergent students, check out Jesse Ginsburg’s book, Ready, Set, Connect!, which provides practical strategies to help SLPs connect with their students and create more effective, affirming therapy sessions.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Neurodiversity Affirming Speech Therapy

Q: What is neurodiversity affirming speech therapy?

A: Neurodiversity affirming speech therapy recognizes and celebrates neurological differences, such as autism and ADHD, as natural variations. It focuses on supporting the individual’s communication preferences rather than trying to “normalize” behaviors.

Q: How can I be a neurodiversity-affirming speech therapist?

A: To be a neurodiversity-affirming SLP, embrace a strength-based approach, collaborate with students and families, and create therapy goals that respect and support the student’s unique communication style. You can also explore resources like Jesse Ginsburg’s Ready, Set, Connect! for practical strategies.

Q: What are neurodiversity-affirming goals?

A: Neurodiversity-affirming goals are therapy objectives that respect the student’s natural communication style and prioritize functional, real-world communication over conformity to neurotypical norms. These goals focus on areas like self-advocacy, emotional regulation, and functional communication.

Q: How do I write neurodiversity-affirming IEP goals?

A: Start by involving the student and their family in the goal-setting process. Focus on areas that promote independence, such as functional communication and self-advocacy. You can find examples of these goals in the SLP Now goal bank.

Q: What is the total communication approach in speech therapy?

A: The total communication approach allows students to use multiple methods, such as AAC, verbal speech, gestures, and written communication, to express themselves in ways that feel most natural to them.


Links and Additional Resources

  • Jesse’s Instagram
  • Chris’s Instagram
  • Reel: Neurodiversity Affirming Goal
  • Instagram: Sam Rowntree
  • Instagram: Lyric Rivera
  • Autistic Self Advocacy Network
  • Jesse’s Book

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Marisha (00:00)

Okay, hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I'm really excited to have two special guests today. We have Jesse Ginsburg and Chris Wenger, and we are going to be chatting about neurodiversity affirming goals. And so I'm, I cannot wait for this conversation. And before we dive into chatting about all things goals,

I thought it would be super helpful to get to know a little bit about Jesse and Chris. They are a dynamic duo with a wealth of knowledge and experiences. So we'll kick things off just letting them share a little bit about their story and kind of how we ended up getting into this conversation about neurodiversity.

Jessie & Chris (00:53)

Yes, thanks so much for having me back. So excited. I know we were talking about so much has changed since we chatted last and now I got to bring Chris along this time. But yep, we're both two SLPs. We are based in Los Angeles and it's kind of fun because not only are we parents together, four boys, but we have very different work settings and just very different experiences, but we both love working with autistic.

kids and that's really our passion area, but I am a clinic based SLP. I own a clinic in Los Angeles for the last over 10 years. And so I work with a lot of littler ones. And then I have a panic attack about the age eight when I call Chris and say what I do with this child. No, but he is a school based SLP working with older kids. So it's fun to come together and have different perspectives.

Yeah, it's so funny that Jesse says that because it's like how I am too when someone approaches me with like a really young child and says, hey, so what about this goal or what about this? And I am I'm like, well, let me let me find out. Let me call Jesse. Yeah, he'll get like his friends from high school who have a kid who need help or something. And then he's like, can you send a voice memo to this person I knew 20 years ago? Totally. That's a baby. And yeah. Yeah. So, you know, following that, that's my setting. It's been my.

The majority of my life has been working with teenagers. So over the years, I've really kind of learned what works, what doesn't work, what makes a neurodiversity affirming goal versus a traditional goal. What are next steps for the future? Like, you know, my whole journey has kind of shaped together to learn this stuff. So but it's all been specific to teens and young adults.

Marisha (02:47)

And I love how we all end up with our areas of specialty and like we can build those networks to help us help all kinds of kiddos. So yeah, I love those stories and this will be a really cool conversation because we'll get the perspective for different age ranges as well as different settings like private practice versus the schools. So I'm really excited to dive into all of this. And.

We've gotten a lot of different questions about neurodiverse, neurodiversity affirming goals and what those look like. And I'm really excited to dive into that. But I know that writing goals is actually a very tiny part of the puzzle. And so, because well, there's a lot more learning that we need to do beyond like, here's a goal bank, for example. So what are some of your?

favorite resources for SLPs are maybe getting started to help give them a good foundation to start thinking about those.

Jessie & Chris (03:49)

Yeah, I mean, I think that it's funny, I was kind of laughing in my head when you said that, that it's such a tiny piece, because it's like, you can't just give someone a neurodiversity affirming goal, and then expect that the therapy is going to be using a neurodiversity affirming approach. You really do need to understand what makes something neurodiversity affirming. And for us, I know our favorite way to learn has always been to learn from autistic people.

and follow autistic people on social media. We have a lot of autistic colleagues and friends that we've had really great conversations with. And that's just, I would say, the number one way that I've at least tried to consume information about how can we best support our autistic kids. Let's ask our autistic adults that we have in our lives and then try to go from there. Yeah. And to shadow that,

back into the goal writing, asking, you know, and connecting with resources with other autistic therapists, autistic voices, which goes right back into the goal writing process, including the client or the student in that goal writing process. That is your first stepping stone on a no diversity affirming goal. Who's the goal for?

Is the goal for the teacher is the goal for the therapist is the goal for the parent or is the goal for the child for the client? That's where we have to step. So that's like one of the very first things we question, like, who's this goal for? Who's it going to benefit? And that right there will help guide the process of writing the goal. But yeah, I always feel like that. Need for connecting with and getting input from that individual.

Because that's intrinsic motivation right there, right? That's like neurodiversity affirming approaches and strategies in general is how do we get away from that externalized motivators and what's intrinsically motivating for the individual? Because if they can have say in their goals, what works for them? What do they need? Then that's where you're going to get a lot more success.

Marisha (06:05)

Yeah, I love that. So Jesse's point was reaching out to or learning from other autistic individuals in the community. And then I love how you added Chris that like our our students and our clients are like they're the stakeholders there. So communicating with them too. And you gave some really good examples of like questions that we can ask our students to help guide that conversation. So I love that.

And then do you have, could we maybe shout out a couple of accounts as examples? Like if an SLP is like, ooh, I love that idea. Like, where can I start on Instagram?

Jessie & Chris (06:45)

I feel bad because I don't want to exclude anyone by not saying names of people. Do you have people you would want to list? my gosh. I mean, I could give you a couple of people who I've worked with directly who have been awesome. It's just there's so many people. Honestly, it's hard to... Maybe we can give you a list to add in your show notes or something. But some people we've worked with and interviewed, one autistic SLP, her name is Sam Roundtree. Her...

Marisha (07:05)

Let's.

Jessie & Chris (07:14)

handle for a long time was the Aussie Specie. She's been awesome, worked on a project with her. my god, I feel like there's just so many people we've interviewed. Lyric, whose handle is neurodivergent rebel and Lyric always posts these questions that say that say autistic asking autistics. So if you go to the post, it's all

Autistic responses, which is really really cool Yeah lived experience educator. Yeah, I like a chain They have like such great content that really focuses on getting away from neuro normativity and working with Our clients and our students through a neuro diversity affirming lens So yeah that handle is at lived experience educator I think like resources to like I really like to go on the website neuro classic comm

you know, Autistic Self Advocacy Network, ASAN is a great one. But yeah, just kind of exploring those and hearing input from from voices has really kind of helped out. Yeah. So there's a few right there. Yeah.

Marisha (08:21)

Yeah, and then I'd love that I'll share the accounts that you mentioned as well as some of those websites. And then you guys highlight people on your accounts as well. So I'll link to Chris and Jesse's Instagrams as well as just another starting point as well. And then, okay, so.

Jessie & Chris (08:39)

awesome.

Marisha (08:43)

Obviously, there's a lot more to learn about goal setting to really help us, but let's humor the people and give them a little bit of what they want in terms of goals. And then I saw, I think it was a collaborative reel that you posted.

between, maybe it was Jesse's, I'll link the real either way in the show notes, but you were sharing about neurodiversity affirming social groups. And one thing that you said, like instead of teaching social skills and making kids sit and forcing conversation, we can provide a safe place for kiddos to be themselves and allow them to move and allow conversation to flow naturally. So I thought that was a really cool.

illustration of kind of some of the thought process. So and I'll share that if people are wanting to look back at that. But what are some important considerations when we are and maybe you have different perspectives based on what age you're working with, but I'm curious what your thoughts are on like, what should we think about as we're writing those goals, in addition to kind of doing our background research and.

listening to the autistic voices and our clients going from there.

Jessie & Chris (10:01)

Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, Chris could definitely speak to this a lot more specifically, but I think the biggest thing to think about is, you know, our goal is not to just try to take a child and then fit them into the mold of what is quote normal, you know, and previously a lot of our goals would do that. It was, well, most of the time kids can have conversations for five minutes and they can take turns back and forth. So that means this child needs to be able to do that too.

But we want to make sure that our goals are also honoring autistic characteristics and, you know, autistic brains function differently than neurotypical brains and their sensory is going to be different. The way they regulate their emotions is likely going to be different. The way they socialize might be different. The way they communicate might be different. So really taking into consideration that our goal is to really support them in the areas where they

need support or feel they need support. We're not just trying to make them fit into a mold. Yeah. And that's like kind of more exactly on the if we're working on, you know, social engagement, social language, social emotional needs. Shouting what Jesse said is that's the first thing. Are we trying what's the what's the goal? Is it supporting the individual? Because if we're teaching them to act or imitate their typical peers,

then we're inadvertently going to create more stress. We're going to create more anxiety because the goal essentially is telling them, hey, look, your way of communicating or who you are is not OK. You have to you have to not be you anymore. You have to fake your whole identity and pretend to be somebody else. So we're going to create a goal for you to imitate what your typical peers are doing. And there's just a lot of harm in that because.

What ends up happening over time is you start to create this sense of an individual being more hyper vigilant where they're going into social situations like, well, did I initiate it the right way or did I not? Did I exchange back and forth conversation or not? Did I stay on topic the way I was forced to do or not? And then what ends up happening is they withdraw, become socially isolated. So inadvertently does the thing that we don't want to happen in the end.

So I think that's really something that we can we can focus on. So I guess at this point, what do we do? Well, we would create things, situations that are natural, where conversations can happen naturally, where they can meet peers who are like minded that share similar interests. Right. So like, I'll give you an example. We created a Lego club once a week.

after school and we weren't sure how that was going to kick off. This is just in the past six months. But we had a couple of students that had interest in that. And so we reached out to a teacher who is willing to host it once a week for an hour after school, student led, and it generated 16 students so far. But like up the bat, we have 16 students who were like

Wait a minute, there's a Lego club where I can go connect with other people who like to build Legos. No pressure to socialize. No pressure to have to fake who they are. Conversations happen naturally. Relationships happen authentically. We're not forcing people into conversations they don't want to be a part of. We're not taking away unstructured time for them to have to be forced into conversations. We're not forcing eye contact. We're not forcing...

neurotypical style engagement where one person has to put the Lego on and then the next person puts Lego on like things just happen naturally. That's the way life should be. Right. And so and so that's what we would want to do to create those natural conversations to happen to build those skills. And then another thing that Jesse will will shadow and share a lot more of because I learned this from her. But.

Whatever the goal is, if you're working with language, if you're working with vocabulary, you're working with social emotional needs, you're working with grammar, like whatever the goal is, you always have to ensure that the child's regulated. You're going to not get from point A to point B if you don't start there. And so, yeah, that sometimes can be dismissed or not really viewed as a necessity. So.

What might that look like in context? You have to do a makeup speech session. So your sessions are usually Mondays, you know, third period. But there was a holiday. So you're like, all right, well, I've got some time on Friday. Well, the students working on some makeup work in their study skills class or they're in an art project, they have a monotropic mind, they're focused. And then they get the phone call and their teacher says, hey, you have to go over to A100.

because it's speech time, you're going to have a child whose regulation is not going to be the same as it typically would. And so they come to speech and you're like, darn, they're not saying anything. I'm not getting any results. I'm not, you know, it's like, well, we have to think first and foremost, is this is this individual that I'm working with regulated? How do we get them there?

So so Jesse can kind of share a little bit more on that because that's her area. I learned that was good. He learned something from me. I learned a thing. As you were talking to put the dirty clothes in the laundry basket or else one hour massage punishment. I was thinking about you said something that made me think about how I used to teach. OK, am I the only one who did this? I used to have like popsicle sticks with paper.

glued to it and it would be comment question and then we would go back and forth. Did you ever do that? Probably not. You were ahead of your time. Was this in school? No, like with a student, like a seven, eight year old. Okay, let's have a conversation about a topic we choose. And then I remind them by holding up the thing if they need to ask a question or if they need to make a comment. And anyway, that's exactly kind of what I remember. Like,

having conversations about the popsicles that we ate. But yeah, I know what you're saying. But that's how I would teach conversation skills. It's like, OK, well, a conversation looks like I say something. You respond. You ask a question. I respond. And that's just maybe a neurotypical communication style. But if we are just focused on teaching autistic kids neurotypical communication styles, they're not going to actually go out there and

take those skills to be able to develop authentic friendships. And, you know, compared the popsicle sticks compared to I remember when I had these two girls in my office, they were like maybe six and seven sitting on these very chairs. So they were kind of getting some sensory like spinning around as they were talking to each other. And they spent 25 minutes talking about Pokemon and anime is Pokemon the different completely different or is it like a

No, that isn't. That's anime. Okay, so they were talking about anime for 25 minutes and I was like thinking like, man, I did my job. Like they didn't need anything. I didn't, it's like the way you know you're having a successful social group is when you're not needed. You know, and I think like oftentimes we sit back and we feel like, my God, well, I'm the therapist. I need to be interjecting. I need to be talking. I need to be teaching. But if you can...

create a scenario where you have people having an authentic conversation that they're genuinely interested in and you're not needed, that's an amazing thing.

Yeah, absolutely, I agree.

Marisha (18:08)

And you gave some good examples of like just kind of, and they even created their own context in that example. Like they figured out what they want to talk about and they were able to keep talking about it. And like with the Lego club, they're kind of self -selecting there of like, yeah, I love that Legos. I'm going to go to that.

So what would that look like, especially for like school -based SLPs? Like how would we reflect that in a student's IEP? Like what does that look like?

Jessie & Chris (18:38)

Yeah, I mean, regarding goals. So I'm going to give myself a shameless plug here because it goes with the topic. Before we start developing the goals, because there's I get this question like so often, what are neurodiversity affirming goals? Does anybody have a gold bank? But prior to the goal, we've got to have some information about what the need is first. Like what is going on in the environment?

I've got to get information about how things are going on in class with their peers. What does the student want? Like all of that information. So it really has to come down to a dynamic assessment. We really want to figure out, you know, in class, is this student when they get stuck on something, what's their way of communicating that they need some support? It doesn't always have to be through spoken language, but.

Are they reaching out to the teacher? Are they talking to their caregiver? Are they writing it down? If they're becoming dysregulated because let's say they had a substitute teacher come in, that was unexpected, which happens quite often. How do they handle their ability to co -regulate? Do they have a safe person in the building? Who is their trusted adult to go to? How are they advocating to?

get a sensory break or how are they working on co -regulating with somebody like we need to know this information. So the questions, this is always a life thing too. The questions we ask are going to determine the outcome of how we how the goal and the reports are written. Right. So it has to start there. The challenging part that we have as SLPs and OTs and PTs and everybody else on the IEP teams and in private practices.

the forms that we have to assess currently, like the standardized ones, ask the wrong questions because they're asking, how do we get this kid to be more neurotypical? So the system for 70 years now has only created more harm than good because now what you're doing is working against a child's neurology and then when they become dysregulated,

A functional behavior analysis comes in and an FBA is done. And then the behavior plans put on this kid when the reality is they don't have a behavior plan. They just had an unmet need and an unsolved problem because we were asking the wrong questions in the first place. So I created a dynamic assessment that asked the right questions, that asked the teachers, hey, I want to know.

What are accommodations that are working? How does this student self -advocate? What's it look like with the dynamics when the class has small groups put together? What's it look like when things, when the child or the student becomes dysregulated? And then we have a whole different set of questions that are asked to the students so we can get insight about what they're looking for in a friend so they're not feeling pressured to have to be forced into a social.

skills group, we ask the caregivers like, you know, what are some things that are working all strengths based, by the way. But that's where we have to start. And then once we get that information, then we can collaborate. We can work with the student and say, hey, now what is the need? Is the need for the student to advocate for a quieter space when there's test testing going on or.

Does the student need some support with noise canceling headphones during the rally and assemblies that are happening on Fridays? Does the student need a little bit of support about the perspectives of their typical peers without sacrificing their autonomy and giving them a variety of things? Does the student need a little bit of support on being aware that their autistic communication style might be a little different than their peers and it's totally OK? Like, what?

is that information and that will drive the goal. That's huge. Let me drop your mic. Mic drop. Yeah. With all of that being said, I want to say this, too. With all of that being said, we can add things in any of the goals where we come from a level of knowing when a student feels like they've been put into the fight, flight, freeze, fawn response, their nervous system.

Marisha (22:33)

Yes, I think that's the whole conversation right there.

Jessie & Chris (22:55)

happens, they've got anxiety, we know that sometimes that verbal speech might not happen in that moment and that's okay. So within the goal, we might put something to add to any of our goals when given access to total communication, right? And then that implies we're not forcing the child to use verbal behavior is what it's called or like spoken language, they must verbalize it. We're honoring the student and giving them

a variety of ways to advocate and to express what helps them out best. That helps in the schools, but it gives them the tools to help beyond the school walls. So if they have a dentist appointment in the future when they graduate or when they're in high school, whatever age they are, they might be thinking it would be really nice if I could wear my noise canceling headphones when I go to the dentist, because I hate that loud sound that squeals.

And I don't like the bright lights, so I'm wondering if I wear my tinted glasses and I have a certain schedule that works better for me. How can I advocate for those needs? Well, we've given them the resources and the tools like you don't have to call on the phone. But how can you use Yelp to reach out and to connect with them through, you know, written language or through text or through the scheduler? So there's a lot of benefits that these goals can serve on a large scale.

Marisha (24:22)

Yeah, that is incredibly functional.

Jessie & Chris (24:26)

Yeah, absolutely. And it's authentic to them. Like they're not, we're not creating goals that, you know, again, are creating more stress and anxiety. We're creating goals where they're like, yeah, that's what I see. I need help with too. So now they have buy -in into their own goals, which is great. And the parents are like, hey, that sounds like a good plan. I would love for my child to, you know, work on those things. And so then everybody gives each other a high five.

at the meetings. That's huge. Without actually the hands touching, germs and stuff. Air high fives at the IEP meeting.

Marisha (25:06)

That sounds like a really great way for everyone to win.

Jessie & Chris (25:09)

Or we can hold up popsicle sticks and be like, hey, great job. Hey, fantastic.

Marisha (25:12)

I love that. And I think so the first reel that I mentioned was one that Jesse recorded on her own, I think, but there was another one that you all did together, like a conversation about goals. I'll link that in the show notes too. But that's so because I was I see a couple.

kiddos, I don't carry a full caseload anymore, but I was working with an autistic kiddo and I had just updated his goals and I had put in a goal for like to have him after having some conversations with Jesse, I put in a goal to have him like self advocate for sensory supports. And then you did that real and that was the goal you're talking about was like, yeah.

Jessie & Chris (26:04)

my God, so funny. Yes. Rugrats audio. yeah.

Marisha (26:09)

Yeah, I love that one. That was super fun. But it was a really cool, because I still have so much to learn in terms of implementing all of this 100%. But just my experience with those types of goals, like you can really see a huge difference. Like the parents, they're like, of course, like that makes so much sense. And that's so helpful. And it's a goal that helps them at home. And...

in a bunch of settings. And then the kiddo loves it too, because it's really empowering for him to be able to communicate what he needs. So yeah, I've really enjoyed this conversation and getting even more ideas on how we can kind of start to implement that. And I'll definitely link to the dynamic assessment too, because that seems.

Jessie & Chris (26:58)

That would be awesome. Yeah. And I can kind of share where to find it. I wanted to add one more thing, too, because this question comes up, this whole conversation that we've had, there's always one last question that pops up because the majority of parents, when they hear this type of, or caregivers that hear this type of language and this new shift, they're like, yes, this, this, that sounds like so much what my child needs. But then you're going to get that.

really small, small group that isn't on board. And they're like, nope, social skills training right now. My child needs to be like their neurotypical peers, and there's no budging. We want this. Or you might be in a meeting, and there's an advocate that's like, hey, we know what? We want evidence -based programs that are about social skills training.

And I hear this question a lot. So my response is I always try to guide. I don't like try to say, no, don't do that. But I just try to guide with research out there. And I say, you know, I understand where you're coming from with the idea that if they have these social skills like their typical peers are going to be happier and, you know, things are just going to blossom. But the research and what we know is that teaching people in general to heavily mask, to be an authentic.

will lead to future mental health challenges and issues. And here's the research. So that way the parent has information to go, OK, well, you've given me some information so they can do some exploring and understand the harms in it. That's really how I approach that question, because we will, as SLPs, be presented with that question.

or those challenging moments where it's like, no, I hear your neurodiversity friends. I don't want it. I want to force this. And we have to, we do what's ethical, which is supporting the students we work with by not teaching them how to be inauthentic. So I wanted to share that because that's a valuable piece of information I've learned over the past couple of years on how to address that. Yeah. And I think like the underlying ideas.

It always for me at least comes down to a connection driven approach and how can we make this child feel safe and comfortable with us and feel like they can be themselves in front of us and in front of other people as well. And, you know, when we really sit down and think about it, how can I put, you know, connecting with this child, with the student at the forefront of what we do, it's like everything else comes.

more naturally, you know, and that's was the inspiration of my book I just wrote because that's what it's all about. It all comes down to how can we build a connection and that's when kids really learn and that's when kids feel safe and comfortable.

Marisha (29:53)

Love time.

Jessie & Chris (29:53)

Yeah, no, that's huge. I think that's at the forefront of it too. Ready, set, connect.

Marisha (30:02)

And we'll link to the book in the show notes as well. But like Chris said, it's called Ready Set Connect.

Jessie & Chris (30:10)

Yeah, I love it.

Marisha (30:11)

Love it. Well, is there any any other last thoughts before we wrap things up? I mean, you shared a huge wealth of knowledge and resources that I'm super proud of.

Jessie & Chris (30:23)

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is it is so setting specific when we're writing goals. And like, sometimes it's stressful for me just to listen. We're talking, he's like talking maybe about one of his students goals. And it's just, I feel like there are so many hoops you have to jump through in the schools, because he'll all tell him one of my goals. And he would be like, I could never use that goal for X reason, you know? And so,

I feel like writing neurodiversity affirming goals in a clinic at least. And I can't speak for every clinic because of course funding sources are different, but we do take insurance and we try to write goals that are the most, that are very easy, general goals that gives us the most flexibility possible. So back to Chris, he said adding when given, what did you say? When given,

access to total communication. Yeah, so having like a total communication goal, that's like our go -to goal for a child who comes in and is non -speaking or maybe minimally speaking or inconsistently speaking. And that gives us so much flexibility because we can work on anything now because our goal is total communication. You know, whereas if we have a child come in and we know their Gestalt Language Processor and we can identify what stage they're in, we write them a goal for that. And...

So we write our goals to give us a lot of flexibility over what we do and keep them really general so that it's not just that we're targeting specific activities or specific situations. So I think there's a lot of benefit to that. So if you have the ability to make your goals broader and more general, I've always found that to be easier. Yeah, I agree. And better. Yep. We're given access to total communication.

when working with activities where the child is regulated, like all of those things that right off the bat set up the student for success. I think that we are one step closer to meeting that goal and helping the kids. So we mentioned the assessment when it comes to goals within the schools. The reason why it can be sometimes challenging is how do you measure a self advocacy goal? How do you know the student is, you know,

asking for, you know, use of, you know, something that's calming for their sensory needs or requesting to co -regulate with the counselor or the mental health coach that's on campus or how do you know that they're advocating for the accommodations listed in their IEP. So I like to use a rubric -based system. I have a whole system and the assessment.

And so yeah, I'm gonna just share that word you can locate that because it's all kind of in the same place based on whatever is you're looking for if you're looking for beyond that and You're looking for a neurodiversity of activities I got all that. So here's how you do it. You go to my Instagram and Then you go to speech dude. So just type, you know, you find me at speech dude and then DM me the word bananas and there you go That's it. That's all you have to do. Just DM me the word bananas. I

And you're going to go bananas on some great neurodiversity affirming resources. That's how you do it. And then for Jessie, she's got her own stuff as well for where you could locate her book and all of those things. So you want to share? Yeah. The books at ReadySetConnectbook .com. And when you get it, you get the audio book for free. You also get a lot of other awesome stuff for free, like a free training, free event coming up that I'm going to be hosting. And.

Very easy to get anywhere. Yeah. Awesome.

Marisha (34:16)

ReadySetConnectbook .com. Awesome. And then, yeah, I'll link to all of that in the show notes as well. But thank you both for sharing such a wealth of resources. And it's, that bananas DM seems like it'll cover everyone's questions from the, because it sounds like you mentioned everything from dynamic assessment to actual activities. So.

Jessie & Chris (34:19)

Ready, set, connect.

Yeah, dynamic assessment to where you'll find the Gold Bank or something new that I haven't released yet, but a way for to locate providers and autistic therapists and clinical psychs and the right people. That's what the world needs. We need the right people. And so I got information there, too. Yeah, it'll be it's good stuff.

Marisha (35:10)

Amazing. And I know this was such a small, like this, I mean, it's been what 36 minutes or whatnot. This doesn't do the whole conversation justice, but I'm really grateful for you sharing. And then hopefully the listeners have some good resources to continue that conversation and continue growing as professionals. So thanks for doing this with me today.

Jessie & Chris (35:34)

Yeah Marcia, thanks so much for having us on. Thank you for having us. We love being here. Yeah, love the topic and we love being here. We appreciate it.

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Writing Preschool Speech Therapy Goals

August 20, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

Kelly Vess, a seasoned speech-language pathologist with over 20 years of experience, shares her insights on setting effective preschool speech therapy goals. 

With a background in research, clinical instruction, and early childhood education, Kelly has devoted her career to helping preschoolers develop essential communication skills. 

In this article, we explore her recommendations for creating impactful goals in expressive language, vocabulary, and speech intelligibility, highlighting the importance of research-backed goal-setting for early intervention.

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Why Preschool Speech Therapy Goals Matter

In preschool speech therapy, well-defined goals are essential for creating meaningful progress, particularly in areas like early language development and expressive language delays. 

Kelly Vess emphasizes that selecting complex, research-backed targets can lead to faster, more impactful gains. By focusing on these high-quality targets, SLPs can help children communicate effectively sooner, benefiting their social interactions and overall development. 

As Kelly puts it;

“If you take a chisel to the rock and work on simpler targets, you can see progress, but a complex target will create a waterfall impact, leading to broader improvements”

Key Areas for Preschool Speech Therapy Goals

1. Expressive Language Goals 

Developing narrative and storytelling skills significantly enhances expressive language abilities in young children. 

By focusing on narrative development, SLPs can improve a child’s overall communication skills, setting the stage for more complex language use as they grow. According to Kelly, working on storytelling skills is transformative: 

“If I work on this child’s ability to tell a story, am I changing this child’s life? Yes”. 

Additionally, targeting complex sentence structures can further support children’s ability to express themselves effectively and meaningfully.

2. Vocabulary Goals for Preschool Speech Therapy 

Vocabulary development is foundational for preschoolers, contributing not only to communication but also to early academic success. 

Kelly emphasizes the importance of setting both receptive and expressive vocabulary goals, focusing on the words a child can understand and use. When discussing assessments, she suggests evaluating expressive vocabulary if a child often uses non-specific language, such as “this” or “that,” which can indicate a need for targeted vocabulary intervention.

3. Speech Intelligibility Goals 

Enhancing speech clarity is crucial for young children to be understood by peers and adults, which supports their confidence and social interactions. 

Kelly recommends structured, multimodal cueing—visual, auditory, and gestural prompts—to improve speech intelligibility. 

By layering these cues, SLPs can create a supportive pathway to clearer, more independent speech, adjusting support as the child progresses.

Early Intervention Strategies for Preschoolers

Early intervention plays a pivotal role in improving the long-term outcomes for preschoolers facing speech and language delays. 

Kelly recommends involving parents from the outset, using input forms and home language samples to inform therapy. 

This initial input provides insights into a child’s interests and natural language use, enabling therapists to tailor their sessions.

Tips for Writing Preschool IEP Goals

When creating Individualized Education Program (IEP) goals, specific, functional, and measurable targets are key. 

Collaboration between SLPs, parents, and teachers helps to ensure these goals are well-aligned with the child’s needs and classroom environment. 

Kelly stresses the importance of starting with “most to least” prompting—providing full support initially and gradually reducing cues as the child gains skills. 

This approach, which aims for 80% success to avoid frustration or habituation of errors, enables students to progress effectively: 

“We always want to make sure it’s 80% because if we’re below that…we have habituation of errors”

Sample Preschool Speech Therapy Goals

To provide a foundation for setting measurable, impactful goals, here are examples inspired by Kelly Vess’s approach to preschool speech therapy:

Expressive Language Goal: 

This goal targets the child’s ability to express ideas clearly, building narrative and storytelling skills that are essential for social and academic success.

“The child will use a complete sentence with 4-5 words to describe a familiar event with minimal verbal prompts in 80% of opportunities.” 

Vocabulary Goal:

By setting both receptive and expressive vocabulary goals, SLPs can help children expand their word knowledge, which is foundational for effective communication and later academic success.

 “The child will identify and name objects within four different categories with 80% accuracy.” 

Speech Intelligibility Goal:

Using structured cueing techniques, this goal supports children in developing clearer speech, aiding both peer understanding and self-confidence.

 “The child will increase intelligibility by producing multisyllabic words with 70% accuracy.” 

Each goal is designed to be functional and measurable, enabling SLPs to track progress while addressing critical communication skills for preschoolers.

Frequently Asked Questions on Preschool Speech Therapy Goals

Here are some common questions related to preschool speech therapy goals:

What are typical speech goals for a 4-year-old? 

Speech goals for a 4-year-old often target foundational communication skills such as expressive language, vocabulary development, and intelligibility. Examples include goals for expanding sentence length, using specific vocabulary, and producing multisyllabic words with clarity.

What is an example of a speech therapy goal for preschoolers? 

A goal might focus on expressive language, such as: “The child will describe events using a complete 4-5 word sentence in 80% of opportunities.” This target supports sentence formation and storytelling skills.

How do you write IEP goals for preschool speech therapy? 

Effective IEP goals are specific, measurable, and functional. They should reflect the child’s unique needs and be written in collaboration with teachers and parents. For example, a goal might specify the number of prompts needed, a target success rate, and a clear skill to be achieved, like “naming objects across four categories with 80% accuracy.”

What are the IEP goals for preschool apraxia? 

For children with apraxia, goals might include improving speech intelligibility through structured practice of multisyllabic words and phrases, using layered cueing methods that support motor planning and production.

What are some effective early intervention goals for speech therapy? 

Early intervention goals often focus on foundational language skills, including building expressive and receptive vocabulary, enhancing intelligibility, and developing narrative abilities through age-appropriate stories and conversation.

Conclusion

Setting meaningful, research-backed goals is crucial in preschool speech therapy to foster essential communication skills that benefit children well beyond the therapy room. 

By focusing on expressive language, vocabulary, and intelligibility, SLPs can support preschoolers in developing skills that will enhance their social interactions, confidence, and readiness for academic challenges. As Kelly Vess illustrates, structured, layered support tailored to each child’s needs ensures that goals are not only achievable but transformative.

Encouraging SLPs to incorporate these insights into their practice, Kelly emphasizes that small adjustments in goal-setting can make a significant impact, empowering children with foundational communication skills that open doors to future success.


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Marisha (00:00)

Hello there and welcome to the SLP Now podcast. I'm really excited for today's interview. We have Kelly Vess joining us. She has over 20 years of experience as a preschool speech language pathologist, researcher, and clinical instructor. She's presented at ASHA and is just generally a very sought after speaker. And so I'm very, very excited to have her today. She's also an author and just

Kelly Vess (00:22)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (00:29)

a wealth of knowledge and expertise and experience. She shares a lot of that on her Instagram, kellyvesslp. And she has amazing YouTube videos. so we'll link to all of her platforms because I know you're just going to want to learn more from her after we're done. our chat today, I reached out to Kelly because I really wanted to chat about preschool goals.

And so that's what she's here to chat about. So welcome, Kelly.

Kelly Vess (00:59)

Well, thank you for having me Marisha. This is such an important topic. I am kind of drooling to talk and discuss this topic. I think that when I think about the preschool goals, I think of it as kind of the intervention plan. If you go to a dietician or a personal trainer or a naturopath, they're only as good as their intervention plan.

And that's what we're talking about today. So I couldn't be more excited. This is a wonderful topic that you've selected. Thank you so much for having me.

Marisha (01:30)

Yeah, and it'll be a relatively short discussion. And so there's, we're just going to touch the very tip of the iceberg, but I'm really excited to, for SLPs who have some questions in this area, hopefully you'll walk away with some really good initial tips and then some additional resources, or like direction and where else to go. So we'll come up with our own intervention plans in a way. So.

Kelly, I read off a little bit of your bio, but I'm curious to hear from you and I'd love to hear a little bit of your story. Like how did you end up learning so much about preschool? Like how did you end up specializing in that area and what has that journey looked like for you?

Kelly Vess (02:11)

Yeah, thank you for asking because I think that this is why the goal, this is all based on the intervention plan, it's based on who you are. And I'm a researcher and in my undergraduate studies and my master's studies, I was a researcher throughout all of that. And what I learned as a researcher is that details matter. So your treatment target matters, which I know Marisha, you talk about a lot in narratives and complex syntax.

You're going to get better gains if you have a more complex treatment target. So the years of research that we did in my studies was showing that the target is so important. It's kind of like the food that you eat. The food that you eat is going to account for 80 % or more of how healthy you are. And the treatment target is no different. It's what you take in, your client takes in.

and how complex and how rich is that treatment target will have such an impact on the gains you're going to see in these children. So that background as a researcher is one piece, but another piece is I was a preschool teacher before, and now I'm completing my doctorate in early childhood education. So I'm all about treating the whole child and not treating the mouth. So that goes into how the goals are

And lastly, being a fitness instructor. And having that background as a fitness instructor really plays a role because you realize if you only have 30 to 45 minutes a week to create change, you're going to need to make that challenging. So challenging targets are going to create change, and speech pathologists really need to be frugal with the limited time they have.

So there's no time for fluff. There's no time for busy work. Every minute counts. So I think all of that, in over 20 years of being a speech pathologist in the schools, you also learn from being effective and being ineffective. So you have to do something different when you're doing something that's not working, and you have to do more of what is working. So then the goals change over time. But I think that that background

in being a researcher, in being an early childhood educator, not just treating a mouth, and in being a fitness instructor where it's like, what are you going to do if you only have 45 minutes a week and you need to create change in that amount of time? And then lastly, that experience of 20 years being in the field and failing and succeeding that really guides what that intervention plan is going to look like at the end of the day.

So the who is really important to what your intervention is going to look like, and that's the goals. So that's a great question.

Marisha (05:06)

so many amazing takeaways. The one thing that's many, but one thing that's really standing out to me is, so I just attended a course by Jennifer Taps Richards where she was teaching about the complexity approach. And she was so, and I haven't heard this in the context of like preschool goals. So I'm really excited to you chat more about this. But one thing that she said in her presentation was that implementing

Kelly Vess (05:08)

Mm

Okay.

Marisha (05:34)

complexity approach for her speech sound disorders increased her batting average as a speech language psychologist. So yeah, there's another approach where we might see progress with the other approaches, but there could be a way to make faster progress, which benefits students in multiple ways because they are then able to communicate effectively that much faster and all of that. So is that what you're talking about in?

Kelly Vess (05:41)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (06:04)

kind of a way of increasing our batting average with strategically selected ones.

Kelly Vess (06:07)

Yes, Jennifer Taps, yeah, I see she was just on the SLP summit. She has led the way. She was leading the way in the 90s, telling all of the speech pathologists, hey, look at what I'm doing over here and her grassroots effort. She's kind of ahead of her time. And then people tried it out and they saw the amazing gains for themselves. So she is a pioneer in the field that you had speaking.

And I like how Lynn Williams describes it. You can take a chisel to the rock and work on simpler targets, or you can take a complex target and that'll take fireworks to that rock. It'll blow it up. There'll be a cascading impact. And I like the way she describes it, a waterfall impact in which you're working on an S blend and you get for free the P, B, T, D, N, those

Earlier developing sounds are going to naturally develop and I like what she says It doesn't develop like a geyser if you work on P and B, you're not gonna get the R You're not gonna get the S. You're not gonna get the F. It doesn't work that way So yeah, that is Jennifer taps is such an amazing pioneer in our field and spreading the word about this approach and through word of mouth school speech pathologists tried it out and they looked at the gains and they

This is working. And now the field is catching up and the research and the publications are saying, well, the more complex target is getting better gains. the clinicians kind of led the research. We're ahead of the research.

Marisha (07:48)

Yeah, I love that. And so I'm really excited to chat about what that might look like for other preschool targets, because I'm aware of a handful of different articles, but I'm just sitting at the edge of my seat. I want to learn about this ASAP. But before we dive into goals, because writing goals and selecting targets is actually a very tiny part of the puzzle.

Kelly Vess (07:50)

Mm -hmm.

Marisha (08:12)

There's so much that comes before that, like a high quality assessment. And we want to make sure that we're choosing evidence -based treatments. although we don't have time to dive into all of that, because we're going to do kind of a quick breeze through some of the target selection ideas.

Do you have any favorite like resources or suggestions for speech -language pathologists if they're listening to this and they're like, I need a little bit more of the backstory first.

Kelly Vess (08:47)

Yeah, great question. What we want to do is we want to front load the before we meet that child, we want to send that parent input form out. And that parent input form is going to most importantly tell us what does the child like? What are the child's favorite toys? What are the child's favorite movies? The favorite songs? Getting that input is going to be crucial among all other input. Another thing we're going to want to do is get a language sample from the parents phone.

So what I suggest is the meal time, because the meal at the table, a 10 minute language sample, a meal time, because in the past, I've had just a 10 minute language sample within play. And what's happened is I've seen the back of the child's head walk into every room like a real estate agent. I felt like a real estate agent seeing every room in the house. have no idea what the child's saying. I have no idea what the context is that the soundtrack.

could be dun -dun -dun -dun -dun -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da. So it was pretty chaotic. It was very hard to transcribe. But what I found is a 10 -minute snack time or meal time language sample. And I get that from the parents' phone in advance. So that is what I like to get before I meet the child. So then after that, when I meet the child, I can bring my flowers, which means

I meet them, I have my bin of dinosaurs in my hand. This is a dinosaur party, their favorite toy. That's not a coincidence. So we really, yeah, we want to set up for success. And I also know which tests I want to use. If the child's using this, that, here, it, a lot, I want to look at their expressive vocabulary. So if the child is only answering questions when there's a visual reference, I'm going to want to look at the auditory processing.

So that video language sample tells me so much. So from home, that has been a real game changer. And the parent input form.

Marisha (10:51)

Yeah, I love that. Okay, so are you ready to chat about some goals? Okay, let's do that. So let's pretend I'm a super fresh, like SLP working with preschoolers for the first time. Like what would we chat about when we're looking at those

Kelly Vess (10:56)

of course, yeah. Let's talk about some of the things.

Thank you.

This is really great. So when we're looking at goals, I like to go back in time and I'm going to go back in time to John Rosen back in 1973. He worked with adults that had strokes and he developed dynamic tactile temporal cueing at 80 % accuracy level. Let me explain what that is. He developed a method in which you give all of the cues you have, every cue in your toolbox as a starting

And then you pull away the cues, the auditory goes first, the talking cue, and you pull away the cues, always ensuring at a moment to moment basis, the individual is at an 80 % accuracy rate. So we want to think about that in terms of the goals. Now, he did that for language for people with aphasia. Edith Strand, many years later, said, let's use this approach with children with apraxia.

So she used the dynamic tactile temporal cueing approach with apraxia. Then we have Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson and their story champs, which is a highly effective intervention. And they said, let's use dynamic tactile temporal cueing with story champs for literacy. So they're all using a highly effective evidence -based approach on different populations.

And that approach is, I'm gonna give you multimodal cueing. I'm gonna give you the speech, I'm gonna give you the visual, I'm gonna give you the print, I'm gonna give you gestures, I'm gonna give you every cue I have, and then we're gonna do it together. We're gonna talk together in choral speech, and then I'm gonna stop talking. But I'm gonna do the visuals, the gesturals, the print, I'm gonna give you everything else.

and then I'm gonna pull a different tool away and I'm gonna pull a different, so it's that scaffolding as you've talked about a lot. And most scaffolds to least scaffolds at the end is where you're headed. And we always wanna make sure it's 80 % because if we're below that, we have frustration and we have habituation of errors. If we're above that, it's just too easy.

So that is the challenge point that the research across disciplines, that 80 % is a magic number, and that most to least prompting hierarchy is simply more effective than at least to most prompting hierarchy. So that is what we're going to do when we write those goals, whether they're speech goals, whether they're language goals, whether they're augmentative communication goals at the preschool level.

We're going to write them in. I'm gonna give you everything in my toolbox and I'm gonna take tools away, but I'm not gonna drop you. I'm gonna keep you supportive. And I like the word is dynamic, because it's moment to moment. So sometimes children need no cues. And the next minute they're like, I'm kind of distractable, I'm losing interest. They need every cue, right? So it's a dance. It's

Today's session, we're going to give you this level of cueing. It's this moment, it's this level of cueing.

So that is what we're looking at when we write those goals.

Marisha (14:30)

Awesome. then, so if we're looking at the different, so let's say you, we did our evaluation, like we worked with our kiddo, we got like the parent feedback, teacher feedback if applicable, which it would be for school -based SLPs. And then we got the language sample, we kind of did our assessments. And so I think that like the DTTC,

dynamic temporal tactile cueing approach makes a lot of sense in terms of approaching the intervention. But how do we decide which areas we're going to focus on? Because we could do, and maybe we can focus a little bit more on language and letters, but how do we select those targets and how do we get more specific with the goals that we're writing?

Kelly Vess (15:21)

I love that question because there's so much you can work on and their goals are not all created equally. If I work on grammatical morphemes, am I changing this child's life? No. And also the research indicates grammatical morphemes will naturally develop over time. But as you are always emphasizing, if I work on this child's ability to tell a story, am I changing this child's life? Yes.

So when we work on, as you know, I feel silly talking to you about your area of expertise, but when we work on storytelling, we're improving all aspects of communication. Where if you work on grammatical morphemes, you're kind of like, let's strengthen your grip, and we're gonna work on grip strength, and you're not changing this child's life. So not all goals are created equally, and I think if the child has a language impairment, well, first of I'm gonna go a little bit back in time in the research.

In 2004, James Law, he wrote a meta -analysis of speech therapy. And he kind of, I think it was the Wizard of Oz study, because he took the curtain and he pulled it back and he said, you know, I'm going to tell you what's working and what's not working. He said, speech therapists, they're improving articulation. They're improving expressive vocabulary. Are they improving language comprehension? He's like, they're not.

I looked at all the studies, you guys are really not doing a good job in this area. He's like, are you improving the child's ability to express themselves syntactically? What you focus on. It's mixed, not really. So what he showed us is he's like, you guys are really very ineffective in this area. And then we had Triner Spencer and Douglas Peterson come out with story choms and narrative interventions.

which Marisha I know is your middle name, Marisha Narratives Intervention Mets, is like, I'm here to change lives here. And what they showed is we improve language expression, language comprehension, all of these areas, stories telling, literacy skills, look what our intervention is doing, and they're saying, and it's doing for preschool age children.

It's working for school -aged children. It's working for children with cognitive impairments. It's working for children with autism. It's working with children who speaking other languages that are English language learners. So they showed that we can improve language comprehension, and they did it in replicated studies. And they said through storytelling, story -viewtelling, Marisha, I'm speaking your language here, and learning the elements of the story and through syntax.

the focus on syntax, which they call the proto story, the child's first story, right? So the research today does show that speech pathologists can improve language comprehension. It's not gonna be done by doing multi -step directions. It's not gonna be done by WH bingo. It's not gonna be done by grammar. I'm thinking of the grammatical cards, preposition work. It's going to be done.

through stories. that is one reason the stories are really important. But another reason the stories are really important is sadly, we know that children that have developmental language delays are much more likely to have peer rejection. They're much more likely to suffer from sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse. They're much more likely to have behavioral challenges. We're talking about exponentially more likely.

So these children, have stories to tell. And unfortunately, as you know, Marisha, they lack the ability to tell the stories. So they're very locked in. So if you want to change these children's lives, what are you going to do? It's like you're going to work on narratives. You're going to work on narrative development. If you want to change their lives in terms of improve their communication skills,

That's what you're gonna wanna do if you wanna change their lives and in terms of improving their emotional well -being and their social well -being, that's what you're going to wanna do. So I think that I really respect, I know that you did on SLP Summit, I saw the wonderful presentation you did on narratives last year and this year on syntax, which is exactly where you wanna be if you wanna change lives. So another study.

that came out in 2017 was, and this is syntax, which is another area that you focus on, which is Amanda Owen Van Horn and Mark Fay. Mark Fay, we've heard of his name because he's the king of, in our field of grammatical morphemes, he's studied it for years. They found in 2017, they had an article said, do the hard things first. And they found that if you focus on complex syntax,

you're going to get better gains and more themes than if you focus on more themes. So once again, it's support for the complexity approach when it comes to language. So instead of working on inged, plural, as you might find many things in teacher paid teachers to download and use for your lessons, that's like working on the grip and strengthening a child's grip to improve their overall health.

You're doing very little work with very little time that you have. Instead, what you're going to want to do is focus on narratives or syntax, and the research very much supports it. So that's where I would definitely put all of my eggs in that 30 to 45 minute basket that I have, which is a very small basket.

Marisha (21:12)

Yeah, it's unfortunately small, but we can do some pretty awesome work with that basket. Awesome. And so how would, so for SLP, cause this could be a pretty significant paradigm shift for some SLP. I'm trying to think of some of the types of questions that they might ask. So, cause especially with preschoolers, I feel like they might be thinking, well, that sounds too hard. Like how do I?

Kelly Vess (21:14)

Mm -hmm, yeah.

Yeah.

Marisha (21:40)

And I think using, like you were talking about the scaffolding and the DTTC and making sure that we have appropriate supports. But what would that look like in a goal? And maybe, I guess this is two part, like what would you say to the SLPs who are like, but isn't that too hard? And maybe we can walk through an example of what it would look like and how we make it not too hard for those preschoolers.

Kelly Vess (22:07)

I think this is a wonderful question because a lot of SLPs are like, where is the who, what, where, yes, no question, what, doing? Why aren't you working on that? I gave them the test. I said, who is that? They couldn't say farmer. I said, where is that? They didn't answer that question, right? So why are you working on how? So what I would do with a child that doesn't have who, what, where, yes, no, because of the cascading impact, I know that this is scary.

Marisha (22:16)

Bye.

Kelly Vess (22:36)

I'm going to work on how. And what happens is when I give them the test at the end of the year, the who, what, where, yes, no, ing, what are they doing questions naturally develop. Is that what you find as well? Marisha, you have a cascading impact in which this child you're working with narratives on, you're working at a higher level, the wh questions naturally developed.

So that is what is happening in my clinical experience and that is what is happening for Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson. They're showing that we are getting this stuff for free. And that's what happened with Amanda, she has such a long name, Amanda Owen Van Horn and Mark Faiz research. They said, we're getting the small stuff for free. Do the hard stuff first, which is focusing on complex sentences. And you're gonna get the grammatical morphemes.

So you have to, it is a paradigm shift. And the way it works, I'm just going to give you an example of a goal, okay, of how I would write this. So for instance, the goal is that the child will respond to how questions with a minimal level of prompting. This would consist of a visual reference. So they see the picture there when you ask the question how, for instance, or something like that, okay? So where would start

On day one, and this is really important, I'm just gonna take a break for background, I only see, have 50 children in my caseload in a school, I only see the parents at the IEPs. I see grandma and grandpa drop the child off for speech, and nanny. So I need to use that time to tell the parent, okay, this is what we're gonna do. Here's a game plan and this is how we're gonna do it. This is my parent coaching time. This is the only time I have.

to coach the parent on how we're going to go through this. So for instance, I will take my bottle of water that I have at the table at the IEP, and I will explain this is how we're going to do it. In the beginning, I'm going to give them a maximum level of prompt. That means we're going to talk together in slow, choral speech on how to pour a cup of water. For instance, I'll give them an example of that. So I'll say, we'll say, first.

Get the bottle. And I'll touch my nose and I'll show them all at it. Next. And then we'll do it together slowly. Screw and charades and act it out. Screw off the cap. Then I'll say, then, and I'm speaking slowly in choral with the child. Then pour it in a cup. And I'll say, lastly, drink it. And I will tell them we are going to speak in choral echoed speech together.

I'm gonna charade, just like you're playing charades, every single step, and I'm gonna use the same terms. I'm gonna say first, next, then lastly, to develop that automaticity. So that becomes automatic for them. Every time I'm gonna use the same terms. And then I'll tell them the next thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna stop talking. Wherever I can, I'm going to use my gestures and they're gonna use the words. And I'm gonna say, you're the teacher now.

So this is just like they're doing in story champs. They fade out the verbal, they still provide the physical cues, they still provide the visual cues, they still provide the print even, but now you're the teacher, the child's the teacher, not you Marisha, the child's the teacher. So then after that, we're going to take out another cue. So, and then finally at the end of the year, the child just has the visual cues and you say, how do we get water? And they're telling the story from beginning to end.

So that is what it looks like it's a most level prompting to least and we're always at 80 % or four out of five times for the session. But I walk the parents through me opening the bottle of water and what's hard for me is taking the time to actually go through each of the goals and model it. Because I grew up in a family of six children and we learned that kids are to be seen and not heard.

and you take as little time as possible and keep your mouth closed, you know. so in here, it's like you have to take the stage and you have to take time and give yourself space and time so that the parent can do this at home. And I give examples. So if the child wants something from the fridge, a snack from the fridge, what are you going to do? We're going to make it a story. The child wants a toy. You're going to make it a story. How are we going to do this? So we have to take

advantage of the IEP time because parents, 90 % of them or more are dual income. They can't meet with you during the school day. You need to take advantage of that one meeting you have a year to get them on board with this is how we're going to do this. This is the method. So I hope that's helpful to your audience, but that's what it looks like when it's language based.

Marisha (27:52)

Yeah, I love that. for, because I think it's good to have like a level of skepticism and especially with that paradigm shift. It's like, but that's how I've always done it or that's how I learned in school and all of that. because I, in the show notes for this episode, I'll gather some of the research articles that Kelly has mentioned. And I'll see, I know there's

Kelly Vess (27:54)

Mm -hmm.

Thank you.

Marisha (28:18)

like a handful more that I could probably pull too. But just showing, because I think it helps to see examples of this in like the types of goals that we would be writing, like for narratives and for syntax and all of that. So yeah, we'll pull that together so that you have, because maybe you don't, you might not want to change this for your entire caseload right off the bat, but maybe just give it a try with one student and

Have that research to back you up and be like, okay, this is a good decision. This is a good thing to try. And then kind of go from there. Do you have any other feedback or suggestions?

Kelly Vess (28:57)

And I think that is a great plan. And I think that that is the way we have to think is I think oftentimes, and this is what I learned in graduate school 20 years ago, but many still practice this today, is they base their goals on what's next. So instead of, you create your goals, instead of saying, if the child can do it, being a gatekeeper and saying, the child can do this, this is the next step, that's how I'm gonna decide my goals.

You need to instead focus on how can the child do this complex goal. And I think that takes believing in yourself as a speech pathologist, as well as believing in a child. You need self -efficacy. You need to believe that your toolbox, you've got what it takes to build the Eiffel Tower, to put that sky -fold and take that child to the sky and then pull away your support. You need to believe in the child and believe in yourself.

But yeah, I think that that is the question every time you need to ask is not, can the child do this? But how can the child do this? And then I think that people will be amazed just like with Jennifer Tapps, which she did is she went out there and said, hey, here's some research from Judith Garrett, try it out. And people are like, my goodness. And now everyone's working on three element S blends.

they're ahead of the researchers and the researchers are like, yeah, they're right. This is working. The clinicians are ahead of the research. And I think the same thing here with Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson's story champs, people are like, wow. And the work you're doing as well in narrative intervention, people are doing it and they're seeing these incredible gains that they weren't making using the old fashioned, I picked what was next, the plus one.

what they were doing in the testing and what they got is they got plus one results. Where when they did your approach, when they did the Story Champ approach, they were seeing plus 10 of results. They were seeing that spontaneous, the spontaneous gains.

Marisha (31:04)

And so we've talked about some examples of those more complex targets, like the how questions, like skipping the who, what, when, jumping to how, and then writing goals for narratives. And I'm curious, what would your syntax goals look like for your preschoolers? Can we maybe talk through one example there?

Kelly Vess (31:28)

That's a good question. With the syntax goals, I do think the complex sentence is so important. So what I do is I do focus on that how question. I always go there. And then at the end of it, I would like to say within a spontaneous language sample, I'd like to see the emergence of complex sentences in a spontaneous language sample. And that's the final goal. But of course, to get there, I do use the how questions to get there with the

of that. So that's a wonderful question. Thank you for asking that.

Marisha (32:02)

And then do you have any other like goals just since we're cause SLPs love it. So it was like, I always have to ask, like, there anything else that you would, and I know it's kind of hard because it's, it's always individualized and everything too. I'm just curious if you had any other favorites that are top of

Kelly Vess (32:06)

Yeah. Good. Yes.

I think this is, I know this is another area that you work on that I think is crucially important and Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson have shown this is crucially important is the elements of the story. So when working on the elements of the story, the reason that's so important is because, well, first of all, this is where I think Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson are very impressive. That used to be something that was worked on in third and fourth grade.

So in third and fourth grade, children were introduced to what is the setting, who is the character. These are the elements of the story, which I'm sure your listeners know, but what is the emotion, the action, the consequence. So that used to be third and fourth grade. And then Trina Spencer and Douglas Peterson said, if we teach this in a multimodal manner in which the children are using gestures, if they're saying in choral speech with us, if we have visual references for

if we have a symbol for it as well, a visual icon, then these preschoolers can learn this concept. And they showed this is highly effective in improving, once again, literacy skills, language comprehension, language expression. So that is another skill that is worthy of that little basket we have, putting our eggs in that 45 to 30 minute basket we have to create change.

And that is another goal. So the way I would typically write that is, once again, I would say that, for instance, this is an example. The child that currently is unable to tell a story that includes the six elements of story grammar, I'm going with six. Some could go through eight, some could go through four, depending on how complex you want it and the age you're working with. So for instance, I said the character, the setting, the problem, and emotion, action, and consequence. So I'm going to say

By next year, the child will be able to tell a story provided auditory cues. So this is where we'd say, what is the setting? Print cues, gestural cues, visual reference, and word retrieval cues. So this is giving all of this support to a preschooler so that they're actually able to tell a story with a beginning, middle, and end. So that would be an example in which we're focusing on the elements of the story.

And then what we're going to do is we're going to take away the auditory. So the next level of cueing is we're giving that with gestural cues. I'm not saying who is the character. Instead, I'm just tapping my head to say character. So we're going to get rid of auditory, just like we did with our language, just like we do with our speech. It's the dynamic, tactile, temporal cueing. We always want to get rid of the auditory.

is early and as soon as possible because it's the hardest to fade. The children become dependent upon it. So, and we always want to be like, you're the teacher now, I wasn't even talking. That pass of the baton is really important.

Marisha (35:15)

Yeah, I love that. And that was a really helpful example. think the examples that we went through hopefully will give SLP some good resources to start trying this out. And this was just like the tip of the iceberg discussion. I feel like we could chat for hours and hours about all of this. So yeah, but just to be mindful of time and all of that, we'll just start to wrap up. But I'm curious if

and SLP was really enjoying this conversation and on the edge of their seat like I was. What do you think would be the best place to learn more from you or connect with you? Because I know you've got Instagram, YouTube, your website, and I'll share links to all of them, but I just want to give you the opportunity to share what you would think.

Kelly Vess (36:04)

Thank you, Marisha. You're so kind. I think the preschool SLP, CaliVest SLP on YouTube is basically the best place to connect. But thank you so much for having me. is, and thank you for the amazing work you do. I know about your work and you're focusing on all of the life -changing areas and syntax and storytelling and doing such creative, amazing work in that realm. So I'm excited for all the lives you're changing. Thank you for having

Marisha (36:32)

Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. And I feel like I need to just turn it all of that right back on you. Because you've got like lots of amazing content out there and you're doing the exact same changing lots and lots of lives with all of this great work that you're doing. So thank you for continuing to show up and do that. And yeah, like I said,

We'll share the show notes with all of the resources, all the links we mentioned. And I hope everyone has a fabulous rest of their day.

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An SLP’s Guide to Writing Expressive Language Goals for School Age IEPs + Expressive Language Goal Bank

May 12, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

This article contains everything you need to know to write expressive language goals for speech students, and an expressive language goal bank! Expressive language is how our speech students can share their thoughts, feelings, needs, and ideas in and out of the classroom.

What is Expressive Language?

According to ASHA, expressive language is our ability to communicate our thoughts and feelings through verbal or nonverbal communication. There are 5 expressive language domains, which can be grouped into the following 3 components: form, use, and content.

· Form – phonology, morphology, syntax

· Content – semantics

· Use – pragmatics

5 Expressive Language Domains

Expressive language can be broken down into the following 5 expressive language domains: phonology, morphology, syntax, semantics, and pragmatics. Below is a quick description of each of these expressive language domains (ASHA, n.d.)

· Phonology – the ability to use phonological patterns while communicating.

· Morphology – using the correct morphemes while communicating.

· Syntax – using the correct sentence structure while communicating.

· Semantics – using words in a meaningful way when communicating.

· Pragmatics – communicating socially

What’s the difference between Expressive and Receptive Language?

Before diving into the expressive language goal examples, let’s look at the difference between expressive language and receptive language.

👉 Expressive language is a person’s ability to produce language by using words and sentences to convey meaning. 

👉 Receptive language is the ability to comprehend language produced by others.

How to Write Expressive Language Goal Examples + Expressive Language IEP Goal Bank

In this blog post, we are going to talk about how to write expressive language goals, and specifically focus on 3 of the expressive language domains:

⒈ Morphology speech goals

⒉ Syntax speech goals

⒊ Semantic speech goals 

The expressive language goal examples listed below can be found on the SLP Now expressive language goal bank!

How to Write Expressive Language Morphology Goals + Morphology Goal Examples

What is Morphology? 

ASHA states that morphology is “the system that governs the structure of words and the construction of word forms”. In order to have strong morphology skills, speech students should have an understanding of root words and how affixes and prefixes can alter the meaning. 

3 Morphology Speech Goal Examples:

Below are 3 IEP expressive language speech goal examples for increasing students’ morphology skills.

Morphology Goal Example 1:

By the end of the IEP, given an image of an action being completed, Student will produce regular past tense verbs (-ed), given 1 verbal model, with 80% accuracy, across three consecutive sessions.

Morphology Goal Example 2:

By the end of the IEP, given items or an image, student will produce irregular plural nouns at the word level independently, in the speech classroom, with 80% accuracy, across three consecutive sessions.

Morphology Goal Example 3:

By the end of the IEP, given an image of a person/people completing an action, Student will produce present progressive (-ing) in sentences, given no more than 1 model, in 4/5 opportunities, across three consecutive sessions.

I find the chart below super helpful when determining which morphology expressive language speech goals my students’ will target. Below is a chart of grammatical morphemes in order of acquisition based on Brown (1973).

Grammatical Morpheme Example
· Present progressive (-ing) Dog barking.
· in Water in cup.
· on Toy on table.
· Plural regular (-s) My toys.
· Past irregular I ate food.
· Possessive (‘s) Mommy’s book.
· Uncontractible copula  (uses as main verb) This is Daddy’s.
· Articles (a, the) A toy.
· Past regular (-ed) I looked.
· Third person (-s) She runs.
· Third person irregular Dog has a bone.
· Uncontractible auxiliary He was talking.
· Contractible copula It’s Tuesday.
· Contractible auxiliary Sister’s laughing.

🎧: This SLP Now Podcast episode has easy and applicable strategies you can use to target morphology goals! 

How to Write Expressive Language Syntax Goals + Syntax Goal Examples

What is syntax?

Syntax is the system that governs the meanings of words and sentences, and the relationship among the elements within a sentence (ASHA, n.d.).

I like to think of how the word order impacts the overall meaning of the sentence. When children are learning expressive language, it is more typical to see phrases and sentences with the words in an incorrect order. However, as our speech students get older, we expect the word order to be correct.

3 Syntax Speech Goal IEP Examples

When speech students have expressive language syntactic deficits, this might look like words out of order, full-word omissions, or using simplified sentences.

Syntax Goal Example 1:

By the end of the IEP, Student will produce complex sentences using conjunctions (e.g., because, before), given 1 example, in 7/10 opportunities, in the speech room, across three consecutive sessions.

Syntax Goal Example 2:

By the end of the IEP, given images, Student will produce complex sentences containing causal conjunctions (e.g. because, yet, so), independently, in 4/5 opportunities across three consecutive sessions.

Syntax Goal Example 3:

By the end of the IEP, given two simple sentences, Student will combine the sentence using conjunctions (e.g., and, but, so), independently, in the speech classroom, with 80% accuracy, across three consecutive sessions.

How to Write Expressive Language Semantic Goals + Semantic Goal Examples

What is Semantics?  

Semantics is the content of the student’s expressive language. ASHA states that semantics is “the system that governs the meanings of words and sentences”. 

3 Semantic Speech Therapy Goal Examples

In order for our speech students to increase their semantic skills, they need to increase their vocabulary. By increasing our speech students’ expressive language vocabularies, we are giving them the tools they need to express themselves clearly and accurately.

Semantics Goal Example 1:

By the end of the IEP, given an items or images, Student will expand their vocabularies by describing the item with 3 descriptors (e.g. category, function, appearance, parts, location), in 4/5 opportunities, in the speech classroom, across three consecutive sessions.

Semantics Goal Example 2:

By the end of the IEP, given 2 items, Student will state 2 differences between the items, given no more than 1 verbal model, in 7/10 opportunities, in the speech classroom, across three consecutive sessions.

Semantics Goal Example 3:

By the end of the IEP, given a vocabulary word, Student will provide a synonym for the vocabulary word, independently, with 80% accuracy, in the speech classroom, across three consecutive sessions.

Check out this blog post for more vocabulary/semantic speech therapy goal ideas!

How Do I Write Expressive Language Goals for Students Who Use AAC?

When a speech student uses an AAC device, it does not change the importance of targeting expressive language skills. In fact, the goals in this article can all be used with our AAC users! The main difference is the language output, as well as the guided language stimulation, which is modeling language on the speech student’s device. Other than that, we still reference expressive language development norms when choosing expressive language targets!

How to Target Expressive Language During Speech Therapy Sessions

Now that you’ve gotten your amazing expressive language goals for your speech students, it’s time to start thinking about how we are going to target the expressive language goals in therapy.

Lucky for you, SLP Now has thousands of ready-to-use materials to target expressive language goals!

Expressive Language Morphology Strategies and Materials

SLP Now has hundreds of therapy plans and materials you can use to target morphology!

→ Here are evidence-backed strategies you can use to target expressive language morphology goals!

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Expressive Language Syntax Strategies and Materials

SLP Now has hundreds of therapy plans and materials you can use to target syntax!

→ Click here for evidence-based strategies for complex syntax intervention!

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Expressive Language Semantics Strategies and Materials

SLP Now has hundreds of therapy plans and materials you can use to target semantics!

→ This article dives into how to track & evaluate students’ progress in their expressive language goals!

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Start your FREE trial today! Take a look through our 6,000+ materials and data collection tools to use in your speech therapy sessions to target and track expressive language goals! 

Expressive Language Goal References

Berko Gleason, J. (2005). The development of language (6th ed.). Pearson Education.

Brown, R. (1973). A first language: The early stages. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.

Language in brief. (n.d.). ASHA. May, 2024, https://www.asha.org/practice-portal/clinical-topics/spoken-language-disorders/language-in-brief/

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#188: A Month of Therapy Using a Vocational Unit

May 7, 2024 by Marisha Leave a Comment

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Welcome to another episode of the SLP Now podcast! We’re on the last of our six-week series about planning a month of literacy-based therapy, with units that will meet the needs of your entire school-aged caseload!

So far, we’ve used Dr. Ukrainetz’s five step literacy-based therapy framework to work through a month of therapy planning for five units: a play-based early language unit, a picture book, a fiction article, a non-fiction article, and a science experiment.

Today, we’re taking the final step on our therapy planning journey with a month of plans for a vocational unit!

This unit is ideal for students who are working on functional communication skills, and using language in “real world” situations versus a classroom environment.

For these plans, we’re going to use a unit from the SLP Now membership that’s all about ordering fast food! We chose this unit because it’s something that students are very motivated by, and it’s a lot of fun to work with.

Now let’s dig in! 🍔🥤

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Speech therapy plans for a vocational video unit

We use Dr. Ukraintez’s literacy-based therapy framework as a guide for our vocational units, but they’re set up a little bit differently than the text-based units. This one is broken down into four weeks of activities: planning and preparing, modeling videos and acting it out, reflection and troubleshooting, then discussion activities.

There’s a wide range of activity options to explore, and you can use these materials and activities to target a variety of goals—like syntax, vocabulary, narratives, sequencing, and more!

Remember: It’s up to you to use your clinical judgment when you’re planning sessions.

We create our therapy plans to cover a month of activities, but you can move through the steps at the pace that works best for your students’ needs. You are the expert of your caseload! 🙌

Week One: Planning and Preparing

Find out what students need to know, and build knowledge to access the activity.

This step has a lot of overlap with step one of Dr. Ukraintez’s framework: Pre-story knowledge activation. It’s important to gather that background information so that you know how much your students understand about the subject matter before getting into skill practice.

You can prepare students by introducing the topic and giving an overview of the unit. Ask your students some questions to find out how much they know about ordering fast food, and talk through the content on the activity pages:

In this episode of the SLP Now podcast, Marisha dives into how she uses literature in speech/language therapy, and how she uses a five-step process to facilitate meaningful and functional outcomes for her students. She shares strategies to select high-quality texts and how to use those texts when targeting speech and language goals with older students (think middle and high school aged!).

 

Having concrete data about your students’ background knowledge goes a long way towards setting them up for functional communication success. And, doing that groundwork now will make those future activities—like problem solving—a little easier.

If your students struggle with that foundational knowledge, you can fill the gaps with some of the activities we’ve used in our literacy-based units—like a virtual field trip!

🍟 Head to our Instagram and comment “FAST” on this post if you want a link to the virtual field trip for this unit, plus some other therapy plan goodies!

Week Two: Modeling and Acting it Out

It’s time to put it into action!

When we were creating the plans for this unit in the SLP Now membership, we hired secondary students to help us make the modeling video that’s included. We recorded them ordering fast food so we would have a really good example of pure modeling to work with.

Once the students have watched the pure model videos, they get to act out their own scenario. They can recreate the conversations from the videos using the supplied scripts, or create their own! Either way, this step gives them the opportunity to work on those functional communication skills in a super practical way.

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Week Three: Reflection and Troubleshooting

Ask questions about the activity

While you don’t need to use the worksheets in SLP Now for this step, we are big fans of them. This purpose of this section in the unit is to ask your students questions that are focused on reflection and application to build comprehension, and target some problem-solving skills, and the worksheets have some great ideas for questions. Of course, you can also write your own!

Whatever works best for you and your students is the right activity choice.

Ordering Fast Food Week Three Reflection and Troubleshooting

Week Four: Discussion Activities

Let’s talk about it together!

In this step, students have the chance to dive into the topic a little further. This helps to encourage generalization and discussion. It’s also a great time to add an extension activity!

You can support the students in creating a project that’s inspired by the unit they completed, like recording a video of them acting out the script to watch back later, or have the students write about their favorite fast food restaurant and why they love it so much.

The activities in this unit are language rich (as always!) so you can target a ton of language goals—but they’re also great for working on executive function skills, sequencing, perspective taking, and more! There are so many functional exchanges in the actual scenarios, and students can work on creating personal narratives in their reflection.

These plans you’ll also include a troubleshooting section to work on critical thinking and problem solving, plus plenty of opportunities to compare and contrast.

This vocational unit is full of great functional communication activities! 💪

💌 If you have any questions or are struggling to implement this unit with your students, send Marisha a DM on Instagram! She’d love to hear from you.

Bonus: Focused Skill Activities

Introduce new skills and provide structured practice.

This step wasn’t mentioned on the podcast episode, but it is step five of Dr. Ukrainetz’s literacy-based framework—and hey, if the worksheets exist, you might as well use them!

If the ideas mentioned above aren’t providing the targeted skill practice that your students need, using worksheets or other focused activities are a great way to get the necessary exposures.

Bonus Focused Skill Activities

And that’s a wrap on our six-week series about plans to cover a month of therapy! This was so much fun for us to create, and we hope that you had just as much fun learning with us.

We love nerding out on the evidence with you, and, we love getting creative about therapy plans + working smarter! We’re so grateful to share those loves with an incredible community of SLPs… including you. 🥰

Next up—we’re going to shift gears from therapy planning to speech room organization because there’s nothing like a little spring cleaning before school’s out for the summer!!


Links and Additional Resources

  • Dr. Ukrainetz’s five step literacy-based therapy framework
  • #183: A Month of Therapy Using an Early Language Picture Book
  • #184: A Month of Therapy Using a Picture Book
  • #185: A Month of Therapy Using a Fiction Article
  • #186: A Month of Therapy Using a Nonfiction Article
  • #187: A Month of Therapy Using a Science Experiment

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That means we’re constantly improving our materials, therapy planning resources, and the ways we support SLPs like YOU — so you can skip the hard work part and just work smarter. 👇

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How is that possible, you ask?

Because we analyzed all the books, identified the targets, and created unit plan pages that suggest activities based on the skills you’re targeting and your students’ needs. This is the one stop shop for all your literacy-based therapy needs, including resources for virtual field trips and visuals to help those concepts stick.

We’ve talked about so many activity options during this series… but there are even more literacy-based ideas and evidence-based resources waiting for you on the other side of SLP Now. 🤗

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00:00
Hello there, and welcome to the SLP now podcast, where we share practical therapy tips and ideas for busy speech language pathologists. Grab your favorite beverage and sit back as we dive into this week's episode.


00:19
This week we are diving into our last unit type.


00:24
We are wrapping up the six week.


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Series, and today we are going to walk through a vocational video unit. And so this unit is ideal for students who are working on more of that functional communication and using language in very functional scenarios. This is an example of a unit.


00:50
In SLP now, and it is all about ordering fast food, which is a.


00:58
Super motivating activity for a lot of.


01:00
Our kiddos, and it is a great.


01:03
Functional activity for them to use their language in a very functional way. So how the unit is set up, it's broken down into four weeks of activities.


01:17
And of course you can use your.


01:19
Clinical judgment to adjust things, but in week one, it's all about planning and preparing.


01:25
So we have some activity pages that.


01:28
Will help students plan and prepare for.


01:33
The actual fast food ordering activity. If I were using this in week two, I would show the students the.


01:42
Modeling video that's included with the unit.


01:45
So we hired secondary students to record.


01:50
All of these functional scenarios for us.


01:53
So we recorded them ordering fast food.


01:57
So it's a really great example of peer modeling. And then once they watch the peer.


02:03
Model videos, then they get to act out their own scenario. And then in week three, there are.


02:11
Some activities around reflection and troubleshooting. And then week four includes some discussion activities.


02:19
These are language rich activities, as always.


02:24
But they're really great for targeting executive function skills, sequencing, perspective taking. Again, like I said, lots of functional.


02:33
Communication in the actual scenarios, and they.


02:39
Can work on creating personal narratives in their reflection. There is a troubleshooting section, so they can work on critical thinking, problem solving.


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And there's also some opportunities for compare.


02:53
And contrast within the activities.


02:56
So as you can see, this is.


02:59
A great functional communication activity, and we can also use it to target a.


03:05
Variety of goals from syntax, vocabulary, narratives.


03:11
All of that good stuff. So it's got a really nice range of activities.


03:16
It's structured kind of similar, inspired by.


03:20
A literacy based therapy unit. So when we're planning, we kind of have some pre story.


03:26
Well, it's inspired by the pre story.


03:28
Knowledge activation step from our literacy based.


03:31
Therapy framework, the one developed by Doctor Ukranitz. It asks them about, like what they.


03:37
Know about fast food. Like, have they been to a fast food restaurant? And kind of gathering that background knowledge and that background knowledge will be really helpful.


03:48
Once we have, like, the concrete facts, it'll make it really easy to help students use that functional communication and do that problem solving because we've done all of those steps ahead of time. And like I said, we have the.


04:05
Modeling video where the student gets to.


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See peers in that scenario.


04:12
And then there's a video modeling script so you have easy access to the script if your students would like to use that, or they can create their own.


04:22
And again, there's so many language opportunities here. It's hard to get super specific because.


04:28
There'S so many goals that you could target, and there's such a wide range of students that you can use this with. But if you have any questions or.


04:36
You'Re struggling to think about how you might use this with some students, send.


04:41
Me a DM on instagram.


04:42
I'd love to hear from you, but yeah, so that is an overview of.


04:48
The different activities that you can use in conjunction with this unit.


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And like I have mentioned in the.


04:56
Previous unit, if you'd like to check.


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Out this unit, if you are already.


05:01
An SLP now member, just go to.


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The therapy plans tab on the SLP now site and then type in fast food and just click.


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And then you'll have instant access to this therapy plan, including the video and the interactive resources.


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All of that good stuff. And if you're not a member yet.


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Go to slpnow.com unit. That'll send you to our free trial page. And all you have to do is enter your name and email and a quick password so that you can log in.


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You can also go to therapy plans tab.


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Check out the 400 plus units, including this one.


05:39
Kind of see if it would be.


05:41
A good fit for you.


05:42
And yeah, that is a wrap on.


05:46
Our vocational video unit.


05:49
Like I said, don't hesitate to reach.


05:51
Out with any questions. I'd love to hear from you and I hope your week is off to a fabulous thanks for listening to the SLP now podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please share with your SLP friends. And don't forget to subscribe to the podcast to get the latest episodes sent directly to you. See you next time.

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